Havent read any Pratchett in 8-10 years, but my faves are The Hogfather and The Night Watch. The Fifth Elephant was a favourite as well iirc.

I only brought up real life women to illustrate that RJ's female characters aren't completely unrealistic with their man-bashing as some seem to believe. Sheesh I'm sorry I said anything...

It's like someone said; what most people say jokingly IRL the WoT people live by. I actually met a guy talking like a WoT person the other day, was one of the most annoying people I've ever met.

Anywho, of course there is every type of person IRL, but what passes for the extreme where I come from is the norm in WoT.

+1 to both of randsc´s posts.

To juan: How is thinking men need to be controlled for their own good not thinking that they are inferior?

I haven't read any WoT book since the last installment, but isn't the men pretty much as bad. Always whining about women and so on? I don't really remember, but I'm sure both sexes have annyoed me a gazillion times with their stereotype sexism.

About the RJ quote, if it's supposed to mean that his family were like the WoT women then I'm really sorry for them. To abuse, manipulate, fight and consider every man an infant with hair on his chest, is not qualities I would look for in a woman, nor would I like to see them in myself.

On a related topic, it's a wonder we haven't seen homosexual couples in abundance considering how appaled both sexes are by each other.

Really, the men vs women theme in WoT is the biggest flaw it has, it's like, good story, cringe time, good story, cringe time, good story, plot armor saves the good guys... ;)

Im in the Phelix camp. I like the idea of the DO setting Rand up to make him destroy the world on his own much more than the semi-deus ex machina thats Rand suddenly grabbing the TP through Moridin.