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Spilt-pea Soup

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  1. This is the First Age. It is known. At some point in this Age, the Creator will give us the means to Channel (or we'll discover we've had it this whole time) and portal stones will be created. The Age isn't over yet. There will be a breaking that ends with the Utopian AoL (which may not be/have been as Utopian as it is portrayed in the series, considering how myth usually projects peace back onto a long-ago time when it wasn't actually peaceful in truth). The Mercedes logo and the dinosaur bones in Tanchico are from our age, the First Age.
  2. Just figured that out this morning as I sat down to read Book One of the Song of Wrymm and realized it was actually the second half of the whole Deverry series. Confusing!
  3. BS made some comment about how he and Harriet were worried continued discussion of this topic would spoil the BUT for readers in the next book. A lot of these suggestions, if true, wouldn't exactly be a spoiler. I mean, if I knew right now for sure that Birgitte was going to tell Mat how to solve the Snake and Foxes riddle to rescue Moiraine, I wouldn't feel like anything had been spoiled.
  4. also in PoD when the assassin tried to kill Rand from like 10 feet away and missed So you're saying that Padan Fain must be ta'varen? ;) I think there is the ta'varent luck and then Mat's luck, the dice-rolling luck in circumstances which aren't even important (gambling). This luck he got from SL and is exhibited by Fain as pointed out by Lord Luc in TSR.
  5. Does anyone else think that Mat's luck is due to Shadar Logoth/Mordeth and not solely his ta'veren? I am re-reading TSR and came across a quote where Lord Luc remarked on how incredible Fain's luck was....and of course, if it's merely ta'veren, wouldn't Perrin and Rand be as lucky, or maybe even more so?
  6. Hey just looked these up, and while I'll probably have to hunt around in the second-hand stores, it looks like exactly what I'm looking for. (Dark, eh?) Thanks for the recommendation! Also, JV Jones and Kate Elliot up thread. This is the third female recommendation, and considering I haven't read a book by a female in a long time, someone might be trying to tell me something.
  7. Hey y'all, I'm looking for some recommendations for fresh fantasy, or at least some thoughts on a few books I'm thinking about picking up but haven't yet. Recently, I've read Nights of Villjamur and loved it, as well as all the Joe Abercrombie Books. Of course, I like WoT and ASOIAF. I've also recently read Acacia and The Other Lands and loved them, as well as Lamentations and Canticle. I was disappointed with Gregory Keyes' Thorn and Bone Series (I couldn't finish the last book, which to me was a big macguffin bomb that didn't compel). So hopefully this gives you an idea of what I like. Dark and epic, multiple PoV, not opposed to magic, but not hung up on it. Realistic fantasy. Suggestions? I've been thinking about getting into Brent Weeks and maybe Peter Brett. Also, was wondering about the series with insects (wasps?) and maybe the Long Price Quartet by Daniel Abraham. Guess I just haven't pulled the trigger on those as I'm not sure they'll satisfy. In anycase, I would love some suggestions. Definitely looking for something very engrossing, compulsively readable but not poorly written, and grand and fantastic.
  8. Just ran across this in TSR, Chapter 31: Alaana Mosvani (so probably true, right): "The Children . . are not Darkfriends, and for that reason they are safe from the Power except in self defense." Seems he meant to include DF in the 3rd Oath for quite some time.
  9. What do we know about the Chora. Why were they so important as to have a whole people tend them? Why so important they needed to be saved? Is the tree of life going to be healed? Are the happenings in the world linked to the tree of life? the "trefoil leaves spreading peace and contentment in the shadows of silvery buildings . . . A city without choras would seem bleak as a wilderness." And now there is only one, and it's burned. Is the peace during the AoL linked to the trees?
  10. Ah, I totally forgot about the Demons vs. Angels in the Old Testament, the demons being Forsaken, of course, and the Angels Aes Sedai. Very cool.
  11. I think everyone expects Moraine's return to be included in ToM, so yes, something unnoticed to do with Mo would fit the criterion, considering she disappeared in the right timefram, and the whole Aelfinn/Eelfinn thing came around too. There are a lot of fox/snake, thom/mat/moraine theories out there, and it's possible some detail or connection has been largely overlooked (hard to imagine how, with this crowd!)
  12. This is a really interesting aspect of WoT, and I hope more chime in on it. I think I use the Jesus parrallel to create a real-world timeline because Tarmon Gaidon = Armageddon. The words are just *so* similar that I think its worth reflecting on. I agree with all your points re: Jesus, except he wasn't *quite* a pacifist. Thinking of the time he threw the moneylenders out of the temple and also the time he said (allegedly) "I didn't come to bring peace, but a sword . . . " Bodhisattva's were also typically apolitical and pacifist. But such an interesting topic, I'm curious how others integrate the timeline into our world, if they do.
  13. Bells tolling--interesting. Not sure that this would be "smack in your face" and something that could continue throughout the series and be as important as Asmodean's death. Can Aviendha be Ilyena reborn?
  14. If anything it could have a Finder on it like Moiraine did with the coins she gives the boys in tEotW. I also think this, and predictions like this one, deserve a bit more consideration than others because of what BS compared the BUT in the WoT to in the Mistborn series.
  15. This is an unbiased forum. There are clear Jesus parallels in WoT. I'm an atheist, btw, but this is someone else's fiction we're discussing. Not my own. Also, what about 3 days? (It was actually more like 36 hours since he died friday night and rose sunday morning). I just said end of seventh age is Jesus' death. End of first age is Armageddon (hasn't happened yet, and it's roughly 2020 years after Jesus' death so we're still well into the First Age.) Age of legends begins after Armageddon ends. (2nd age) This age ends with breaking. Into Rand's age (third age). Thousands of years between all of those events, bud.
  16. Here's my take: Seventh Age = Pre-history/Ancient Times culminating in Jesus Christ' Crucifixion. A form of One Power lingers possibly, in miracles of the age, or perhaps this has just been added later from memories of earlier times. It doesn't really matter. End of First Age = Armageddon, RETURN of JESUS to fight the Satan for good. This leads to the prophesied peaceful kingdom on earth, which is the Age of Legends, the beginning at which people are given the One Power by the Creator. LTT is the Dragon (Jesus), at the end of this age, who is Reborn in the Third age. This is my take on things, or my attempt to make sense out of it, but by no means "truth" as far as the series goes.
  17. Assuming that the BUT will be revealed in ToM, I've made a short list of *some* of the ideas floated here, grouped under probable events/subjects to come up in ToM. Tower of Ghenjei/Mat/Moraine/Thom: What is Slayer's Relationship to Tower/Aelfinn/Etc? What preparations did Moraine make (besides the letter to Thom) after her "trip" in Rhuidean? Are there any clues as to what price/gift was given/received, that haven't been discerned? Something to do with Mat's hat? How does Mat's Medallion function against One Power and True Power? Does it have any side effects? Aiel and Aviendha's Trip to Rhuidean + Seanchan Are there (more) Aiel Darkfriends we're missing? Is there something about Aiel/Tinkers/Song/Nym that was overlooked? What was the significance of Aviendha + Rand's trip to Seanchan in "The Far Snows"? Something more about Aiel's relationship to Aes Sedai? What about the chairs in Rhuidean? Are they ter'angreal, and possibly related to the Crystal Throne? Are they binding chairs and does Rand have one? Rand and Saidin + Tarmon Gaidan How does Rand's sanity relate to the health of the land? Also, how does this relate to the Fisher King? How is Callandor to be used? True Power or One power? How was it made? Can it raise dead? Can it give the Dallas Cowboys a Super Bowl victory? What happened to the fat man angreal? What is going on at Black Tower w/Taim and Logain? Any clues overlooked about Taim? Any overlooked clues regarding Demandred's whereabouts? Fain? What's happening in Shara? Is Shara going to be important to TG? Can the True Power destory Cuendillar? I'm sure I'm missing a bunch so feel free to "quote" if you have any great revisions/updates. I tried to make the points raised as broad as possible to avoid red herrings. So, hopefully, a useful list of some ideas raised to be on the lookout if doing a re-read.
  18. I'm doing a re-read and just about to start TSR. Taking a break for "Nights of Villjamur", which, by the way, is an amazing fantasy debut. In anycase, it'd be nice to have a list of the BUT to look for without wading through the whole thread here. Anyone? Anyone?
  19. Wow--interesting find! I doubt this is the BUT, because BS said that the BUT wasn't talked about much on the forums. I presume that the BUT doesn't require anything from tGS or else it wouldn't make sense for him to have said that.
  20. If eve half of these questions are answered in the next two books, it's going to be one heckuva ride!
  21. Must be important for the upcoming plot that it can be used against DFs. Glad that it's put to rest!
  22. Actually I had quite the opposite interpretation. actually, especially after hearing BS mentioning the thing in Mistborn. Aiel Darkfriends doesn't seem likely because there isn't anything overlooked. It seems to me that there is something specific that's been overlooked, not an idea, but something *actually* in the text.
  23. At some point you have to seriously question how comprehensive BS's memory of the forum discussions could possibly be. His remark was most likely somewhat flippant, and didn't entail hours of research on the multiple forums stretching back years. Everything has been discussed at some point or another. Most of the things on this thread don't approach the level of Asmodean's killer (which he specifically mentioned as a thing that gets discussed a lot). Most of them aren't anywhere nearly as topics as that topic. I bet you anything it will be something that's been discussed (and likewise dismissed by the forumAddicts) just not so much as to gain widespread attention. Most people don't live on the forum, and visit it once in a while, or frequently for small periods of time.
  24. You really should give tGS a read. I entirely skipped Crossroads of Twilight and only read about half the prologue of Knife of Dreams. TGS is brilliant in that you can jump right in, without doing a re-read (even without having real *all* the books) and feel perfectly at ease. I also think BS has managed to infuse the series with the sense of wonder that was there in the beginning but lost as it got slogged in certain plotlines. Give it a try--I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Very satisfying, and in some ways, better than RJ's books.
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