DEMONOLOGY - GAME THREAD

[Mafia-17]

 

@10 I think its pretty interesting that he was so spot on with his read of her. Im not sure what to think of the Heathen vs Order thing. If lee is so concerned about subtlety she should have done a better job of keeping that info from AJ, who apparently can read her very well. Or i suppose it possible she wanted to signal to AJ but he just blabbed cause he's not not subtle.

Yeah not sure some I'm not her. Just found it interesting that he did blab and then she got upset. Guess we'll see what happens.

 

 

That is a good point.

[Mafia-17]

Verbal's posts overall are unimpressive. 

 

Neither are yours

 

 

 

 

Final D1 Vote Count

 

John Snow (11) - AJ, dice, honeyBooBoo, Darthe, Hermes, Shad, Nolder, Leelou, Zander, Tiinker, Pral

Lenlo (2) - John Snow, Kaylee

Shad (1) - NB

 

 

It's a lynch.

Not voting: Tress, Lenlo, Verb, Ironeyes, Crusher, Krak, Amega

 

So I'd guess 1 maybe 2 scum on John's train.

 

In hindsight Kay's vote looks bad.

 

Rest in the non voters.

Meh Kay said something about catching up. If she was slow then she might not have caught up before hammer was thrown. Guess we'll see what she says come D2.

 

 

That's not an excuse I'd weigh into my read of her.

[Mafia-12]

 

 

@10 I think its pretty interesting that he was so spot on with his read of her. Im not sure what to think of the Heathen vs Order thing. If lee is so concerned about subtlety she should have done a better job of keeping that info from AJ, who apparently can read her very well. Or i suppose it possible she wanted to signal to AJ but he just blabbed cause he's not not subtle.

Yeah not sure some I'm not her. Just found it interesting that he did blab and then she got upset. Guess we'll see what happens.

 

 

That is a good point.

 

 

How is it a good point?  I doubt Leelou had any control over AJ's guess. AJ is an observant player, and if anyone tipped him off it was probably Tress, not Leelou herself.  Verbal and Zander didn't seem to spot what Tress was seeing, but my guess is AJ picked up on it.

[Mafia-8]

@17 I posted all the people who went after Tink. Did you notice how you were first?

[Mafia-17]

 

Verbal on the subject of Snow. 

 

Like there's a world I can maybe see John saying Dave "looks like bad scum not noob town" as his read which I don't think is objectively bad with Dave's content. It's generic but not terrible but I'd rather see some more depth elsewhere

 

Also I sort of agree that if he's scum and scum hunting someone he thinks is a symp is lolAIDS

 

Yeah, this is why I'm not really down for a John wagon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't hate a Leelou wagon

,_, at this point isn't it better to lynch Snow rather start a new train on Leelou?

 

Deadline's still like 24+ hours out, isn't it?

 

If not someone let me know.

 

I don't hate a Snow lynch because I suck at reading him and it will resolve someone who's probably going to be in my null pile for a long time to come, but I'd rather pursue my scum read and see where this goes.

 

 

I'd rather you pursue a scum read as well - I don't like the idea of lynching somebody just to resolve them and maybe 1 other player.  Late in the game if mislynches are available, this could mechanically lock a game....but D1 is not the time.  I guess you could argue D1 is when you have the most flexibility and there is no better time, at which point my response will be to grumble to myself because I can see the logic in that as well.

 

So yeah, I just typed a paragraph that literally says nothing.  lolme

 

 

 

Yes admittedly this is not a good luck for Verb.

[Mafia-21]

 

 

 

 

pral is most suspect of late voters

 

hammering prevented him from having to gives reads and gives him cred. win win

Based on your line of reasoning. I dont know why you think Pralaya looks more suspect then Tiink.

 

 

So if popular opinion is Pral is scummier should we suss the people who went after Tink post-lynch?

 

Who went after Tiink post lynch?

 

 

 

Final D1 Vote Count

 

John Snow (11) - AJ, dice, honeyBooBoo, Darthe, Hermes, Shad, Nolder, Leelou, Zander, Tiinker, Pral

Lenlo (2) - John Snow, Kaylee

Shad (1) - NB

 

 

It's a lynch.

 

If there's scum on the train it's most likely Tiink and/or Pral

 

 

 

Dat Tink vote was wolfy af 

 

 

 

 

Final D1 Vote Count

 

John Snow (11) - AJ, dice, honeyBooBoo, Darthe, Hermes, Shad, Nolder, Leelou, Zander, Tiinker, Pral

Lenlo (2) - John Snow, Kaylee

Shad (1) - NB

 

 

It's a lynch.

 

If there's scum on the train it's most likely Tiink and/or Pral

 

 

Tiinker more likely than Pral in my opinion - I'm not sure if they would have had two teammates quick hammer that train.  They definitely would have wanted to try to get some bussing cred, so one of the final 3 makes sense to be a teammate. Aside from that, maybe Nolder.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Final D1 Vote Count

 

John Snow (11) - AJ, dice, honeyBooBoo, Darthe, Hermes, Shad, Nolder, Leelou, Zander, Tiinker, Pral

Lenlo (2) - John Snow, Kaylee

Shad (1) - NB

 

 

It's a lynch.

 

If there's scum on the train it's most likely Tiink and/or Pral

 

 

Tiinker more likely than Pral in my opinion - I'm not sure if they would have had two teammates quick hammer that train.  They definitely would have wanted to try to get some bussing cred, so one of the final 3 makes sense to be a teammate. Aside from that, maybe Nolder.

 

 

Based on the vote itself I think they're equal but if I factor in their content then Id say Tiink looks better then Pralaya.  Also agree that Nolder does not look good either but that's not a spot he would really need to bus in.

 

 

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@10 I think its pretty interesting that he was so spot on with his read of her. Im not sure what to think of the Heathen vs Order thing. If lee is so concerned about subtlety she should have done a better job of keeping that info from AJ, who apparently can read her very well. Or i suppose it possible she wanted to signal to AJ but he just blabbed cause he's not not subtle. 

 

Do you think the Heathens/Order are scum teams, cult teams or town teams or one of one and one of another and why?

 

I think that the Order sounds more townie aligned than the Heathens. They could easily be a 3rd party group with the mafia being demons. 

 

 

I won't say more, but my role PM leads me to believe that the Heathens are town. And since the Order also appears townie, I conclude that both are factions of the town. 

[Mafia-8]

are you claiming Heathen or Order? 

[Mafia-17]

Hmm not sure. I thought him pointing it out like that close to deadline was odd. I think he's either on her team or scum. Otherwise why say anything? And if it's just that he's on her team why share that info and out her? She wasn't in danger of being lynched. Kinda felt like he was saying "look over here everyone!"

 

 

Can you explain or elaborate on the bold and how/what does that tell about his alignment and hers?

 

 

 

 

@10 I think its pretty interesting that he was so spot on with his read of her. Im not sure what to think of the Heathen vs Order thing. If lee is so concerned about subtlety she should have done a better job of keeping that info from AJ, who apparently can read her very well. Or i suppose it possible she wanted to signal to AJ but he just blabbed cause he's not not subtle.

Do you think the Heathens/Order are scum teams, cult teams or town teams or one of one and one of another and why?

This wasn't to me but wanted to answer. I think at least one of them is likely town. Otherwise I'm not sure. The having to find each other part makes me think town. It's both an advantage if they find each other, according to Len, or kinda null if they don't. Meaning it would value town if they did.

 

Don't think scum team would be at such a disadvantage to start. Having no QT or anything. So at least one of them is likely town I think.

 

 

Which would be or seems to be more likely town and why?

[Mafia-10]

They could both be town. Idk. The details Len gave leads me to believe he's town aligned. The Heathens could also be. Judy dont know.

 

As far as the bold above just the timing and how he came right out and outed her...feels off. If he's on her team why not just signal her? I don't understand why he'd put it out there for everyone to see. She wasn't in danger of being lynched so it wasn't too save her.

 

More like he was drawing attention to her. Could be they're both scum and using it as a way to make get look good. But again if that's the case why draw the attention to himself?

 

Either way it doesn't make sense. I can't see a benefit to it so why do it?

[Mafia-16]

Leelou was being discussed as a counter wagon

 

AJ said not to for that reason and to stick with Snow

[Mafia-10]

But the point she was discussed she wasn't really a candidate. Not with what little time was left those not voting. I don't think enough people were willing to vote her.

[Mafia-16]

How does that work with what you said? You said he was trying to draw attention to Leelou. He did the opposite.

[Mafia-10]

How does that work with what you said? You said he was trying to draw attention to Leelou. He did the opposite.

He drew attention to the fact that she was heathen with no reason to do so. It dew attention to them both.

[Mafia-16]

If it was a reason not to lynch her I don't see the issue

[Mafia-10]

I don't think she was in danger of being lynched though so that means he doesn't save her. There wad less than 24 hours till deadline and not enough people willing to lynch her. It's not like she she had a train with more than 3 votes or anything. (I don't remember how many if any bit it wasn't enough for that blab)

[Mafia-10]

Besides if both groups are town then it outs her as a target. Don't want to give the demons more info than they have but I can see a scummy reason for doing it.

[Mafia-16]

She had already been outed by Tress

[Mafia-10]

So all the more reason for AJ to not have said it for all to see.

[Mafia-16]

Repeating public knowledge when people were thinking about voting somewhere else than the now dead demon?

 

You're right. Super scummy

[Mafia-10]

She wasn't in danger of being lynched. Tress said she saw something, not everyone was automatically thinking Lee was heathen die to that. Heck Tress didn't seem convinced herself.

 

Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. I just don't see why he'd point it to everyone. Not everyone may have put that together on their own.

[Mafia-20]

Heathens are specifically a town faction.

[Mafia-1]

This is actually a very simple game. If the Master would kindly reveal himself tomorrow then Heathens and Order can come together to defeat our common foe.

[Mafia-10]

Heathens are specifically a town faction.

I believe the Order is too. Why reveal openly, announcing to the demons, who the members are? That's where I'm confused on.

[Mafia-16]

If they're Town the demons would know already.

[Mafia-16]

And if AJ is a demon then he and his team would already be aware. How does stating it change that?