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yes I agree we have no idea as to whether being "caught stealing" is tied to the "stealing" action.

 

 

ARE YOU MENTAL?

No, I'm just being sensible. Never assume too much.

 

Scenes are scenes.

Mod confirmations are mod confirmations.

Actions and gameplay are actions.

 

Don't mix those up.

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So you think it's a good idea to try and not use any stealing actions the night?

No. I think it's a GREAT idea.

 

You do realize that you're giving full info to the scum on what's going on at night, right?

OMG FEARMONGERING!!!

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No, I'm just being sensible. Never assume too much.

 

Scenes are scenes.

Mod confirmations are mod confirmations.

Actions and gameplay are actions.

 

Mod has confirmed scum can't night kill.

Mod has confirmed someone was caught stealing.

 

Um.  What are we missing that you clearly understand better than us?

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1) Reading too much into scenes and acting like you already know everything is a foolish play. Especially so early into the game and so low information.

 

2) Even if we knew that scum could "catch people stealing" (whatever that means!), that still wouldn't mean that not stealing was optimal.

We don't know the alternatives (worse can happen if you're not using your action) and we don't know what we miss out on (the actions bring information, information that may be worth much more than someone dying).

 

1) I don't know everything about the game mechanics.  DPR's games are interesting because they are transformers.  More than meets the eye.  But DPR does give hints and doesn't bastard mod, so we can try to work in the right direction.

 

2) Stealing may come at an opportunity cost.  I don't disagree.  And scum may have other ways to unmask.  We don't know.  But as town we should test it to find out.  Otherwise we are doing scum a favor by willfully not using a chance to strengthen town's knowledge. 

 

Where I disagree with you is your advocacy in pushing people to steal and you not being willing to answer a simple question about town getting caught stealing.

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Mod has confirmed scum can't night kill.

Mod has confirmed someone was caught stealing.

 

Um.  What are we missing that you clearly understand better than us?

LOL Busted.

 

Vote Werewolf

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Anyway.

I'm going to sleep now. You guys should go back to scumhunting.

 

I started the game with CopX1 + unlimited steal. I figured that might be a quite powerful role, not convinced now. Made sure to play as I would with a nice PR: try to stay out of the NK's way.

 

I cop viewed TAR MONSTER as town on N1.

 

I received a second alt at the beginning of D2 (I was given a quite sensible reason why). I wouldn't want to reveal its name yet. I was told I wouldn't be able to reveal it btw. Not sure about it now, not after JAgs/Mantis hinting, asked DPR just now. Alt drops w/o ties to me.

 

I stole a MAGISTRATE from COFFIN on N2 and activated it at the start of D3.

 

And whoever suggests that using PM's is scummy is a derp. We got that for a good reason. The same way we got our stealing roles for a good reason.

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1) Reading too much into scenes and acting like you already know everything is a foolish play. Especially so early into the game and so low information.

 

2) Even if we knew that scum could "catch people stealing" (whatever that means!), that still wouldn't mean that not stealing was optimal.

We don't know the alternatives (worse can happen if you're not using your action) and we don't know what we miss out on (the actions bring information, information that may be worth much more than someone dying).

 

1) I don't know everything about the game mechanics.  DPR's games are interesting because they are transformers.  More than meets the eye.  But DPR does give hints and doesn't bastard mod, so we can try to work in the right direction.

 

2) Stealing may come at an opportunity cost.  I don't disagree.  And scum may have other ways to unmask.  We don't know.  But as town we should test it to find out.  Otherwise we are doing scum a favor by willfully not using a chance to strengthen town's knowledge. 

 

Where I disagree with you is your advocacy in pushing people to steal and you not being willing to answer a simple question about town getting caught stealing.

 

I did neither.

 

I'm not pushing people to steal. People can think for themselves, Methinks.

I don't understand what on earth you mean by me not being to answer a simple question. I answered that question to the best of my knowledge. The answer is: I don't know (in other qwords: not convinced yet, haven't seen any proof, etc)

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1. I received a second alt at the beginning of D2 (I was given a quite sensible reason why). I wouldn't want to reveal its name yet.

2. I stole a MAGISTRATE from COFFIN on N2 and activated it at the start of D3.

 

Yeah.  *JAGS* was unlimited thief with a 1x Cop view at the start of the game.  Did you vote for Jags?  Oh right.  You did.  So that's worthless information.

 

1. Why wouldn't you reveal your alt?  Don't want to have your alignment tied to it?  Jags had no problems tying me to the alt.  When Jags flips, this account is confirmed.  Why WOULDN'T you want that?

 

2. How is using the magistrate a GOOD thing for Town?  You jst forced us to make two lynches in one day.  We don't know what terrible consequences would result from not completing both lynches but you absolutely know with 100% certainty that there WILL be consequences if we don't finish the second lynch.  That's vote worthy all by itself.

 

If you aren't voting Werewolf, you are doing it wrong.

 

 

 

"VOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTE WEREWOLF!!!  YEAH!!!"

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1. I received a second alt at the beginning of D2 (I was given a quite sensible reason why). I wouldn't want to reveal its name yet.

2. I stole a MAGISTRATE from COFFIN on N2 and activated it at the start of D3.

 

Yeah.  *JAGS* was unlimited thief with a 1x Cop view at the start of the game.  Did you vote for Jags?  Oh right.  You did.  So that's worthless information.

 

I wasn't on the JAGS lynch.

 

1. Why wouldn't you reveal your alt?  Don't want to have your alignment tied to it?  Jags had no problems tying me to the alt.  When Jags flips, this account is confirmed.  Why WOULDN'T you want that?

Because:

a) I don't want to volunteer information unless necessary.

b) I don't know whether I'm allowed to. Earlier the game DPR was very clear about how I shouldn't do that. I've asked him about that again. If I'm allowed to reveal it and I'm in a threat of dying, I will.

 

2. How is using the magistrate a GOOD thing for Town?  You jst forced us to make two lynches in one day.  We don't know what terrible consequences would result from not completing both lynches but you absolutely know with 100% certainty that there WILL be consequences if we don't finish the second lynch.  That's vote worthy all by itself.

Dumbets post today.

 

a) DPR told me (in no uncertain terms) that if we don't use the magistrate roles, we have very low chance of winning.

b) We have quite a few magistrates, apparently, the sooner we get a hang for how it is used best, the better.

c) In general, I'm of the opinion that if we get a weapon, we should use it - that's what my maffia game senses tell me (that applies to masgistrates, night actions and PM's).

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In general, I don't like this derp about

 

OMG WE MIGHT DIE!

OMG THEN MORE PEOPLE CAN DIE

JEEZ WE SHOULDNT EVEN TRY TO PLAY BECAUSE OMG THEN WE MIGHT GET NK'D

 

Maffia is a game of information. The more information, the better.

 

More lynches = better.

People gettign NK'd = not necessarily bad.

 

Coroner reports are underrated.

 

....

 

 

Not that we seem to get very detailed ones.

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I would have loved to vote Warewolfs but JAGUARO and his alt are attempting to push this from seperate angles to look like a lot of people are on it, thus I won't be. Perhaps if he would once in his miserable life SHUT THE **** UP then I would consider it. Til then..

 

 

No.

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c) In general, I'm of the opinion that if we get a weapon, we should use it - that's what my maffia game senses tell me (that applies to masgistrates, night actions and PM's).

Cool.  So you should have no problem understanding why YOUR decision to pull the magistrate trigger is now going to result in YOUR death, right?

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