[Basic] Operation Domination - Game Over - Mafia Wins

[Graendal-Mafia]

I'm just tired of your rambling. There is a very easy way to solve this. Lynch her and if I by some miracle am wrong, i volunter to be quiet and take my punishment.

 

Sorry Halima/Cyadine, I viewed SH

 

Also, that doesn't solve anything btw, since you did not view me you are going by theories like the rest of the town. Saying "I'll take my punishment" because you guessed wrong on an uninformed vote is just dumb.

[Dashiva-Mafia]

Suddenly she just lays off. I advice everyone to read throught the conversations that has been going on.. Look at the moonswings, suddenly being really against sacrificing herself for the town and her apparant knowledge on everything in this game.

[Graendal-Mafia]

Of course I was going to come at you guns blazing if I know I'm town with you hinting that you viewed me. Who wouldn't? When you revealed that you didn't view me half of my case on you went out the window.

[Graendal-Mafia]

And fine you want to know why I know so much about the staff I'll tell you. I am actually a staff member. So ofcourse I'll know if someone falsly claims an admin that is really just a staff.

[Graendal-Mafia]

I also never said I was against sacrificing myself, when I was sure you were fake claiming I was 100% sure you were scum. So I tried to persuade the town to go for the sure scum, however I was going to have to take the fall to prove it most likely. But now that you claimed to view someone other than me, I nolonger can be 100% sure on you because my evidence says nothing about whether you really are the cop.

[Graendal-Mafia]

You made a really sloppy play though if you are the cop. Why oh why did you reveal for no reason? On top of being wrong about me, you now made yourself a target.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Thank you, Dashiva. As you can understand this changes things. I thought you viewed Graendal and your sentiment was coming from that. However you viewed someone else and you're basing your claim on your opinion alone. Which means your stand is as compelling as any other player's opinion and the possibility of you being the cop bears no importance in this specific situation. So basically, unless you get a scum read on someone, I'm not really inclined to follow you blindly. Especially since we can't test your claim since you did not view Graendal. If she flips townie you'll just shrug it off and say my bad. Hardly helpful in vetting you.

 

I did lean towards Graendal being a townie. Part of me still thinks that way because of some points she has touched and the information she gave about her pm does look legit to me. At this point I do think all the current admins are in this game and the fact that no one counterclaimed the role she has assumed (aka Taymist) gives her a bit of cred in my eyes. I know that some of you are against using the admin/staff info to case, but I think that it's useful to some extent.

 

I'm not loving the fact that she offered to be lynched freely and then put up a fight. But at the same time, due to her nature I didn't really expect her to go down without a a word lol So Graendal is a big question mark right now. But I'm not convinced that she's scum right now so she will not be getting my vote. And I'm definitely not going to be voting for an uncountered cop.

 

Which brings me back to SH. The ones of us that were inclined to believe him to be working with Moridin have come to the conclusion that the only reason that Moridin would risk himself for SH was because SH was the GF. Since the GF will flip town if he were investigated it was better off for Moridin to sacrifice himself so SH would make it through the night to be investigated. Which big surprise, he has! He flipped town but this still doesn't solve the dilemma.

 

We have quite a bit to learn from his lynch even if by some miracle he does flip townie. I prefer to wait another night and see what Dashiva has come up with + to take a better look at the whole Graendal and Asmo dynamics. Their banter hasn't really given much in the sense of information and right now I feel rather conflicted about it. It could just be a case of two VERY stubborn townies, but I'm not sure.

 

So I'm leaving my vote where it is for the time being. On SH.

[Dashiva-Mafia]

Call it what you want. I happy with how it turned out

[Dashiva-Mafia]

Oh, so you're willing to wait until I die before you make a stand. We all know I won't make it to day3 with a view for you guys, so that reeeaallly pings me alot.

[Graendal-Mafia]

That you Ithi?

 

Ithi is the onlyone that would pull that stunt imo, to bad it was a fail in this case. You basically let people assume you had viewed me. I am beginning to believe you may be the real cop. If we work together we could get scum faster.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Whatever stand I take has no relevance on your survival and what you have said stays on record so your comment is completely irrelevant.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

That was for Dashiva, btw.

[Graendal-Mafia]

With outed doc and cop, Halima can wifom it. That means the scum could waste a NK.

[Graendal-Mafia]

It's not the most Ideal situation but we could be in a worse situation right now.

[Asmodean-Mafia]

This is unfortunate. I also do wish that Dash had based his reveal on a scum find. But it doesn't change one thing about my case on Graen, so my vote on her stays put.

 

I'd like to point out a few things:

 

1. The possibility that Dash is fake revealing, and then admitting his findings like he did is remote. This means that unless we learn that he is not the cop, SH has been cleared. Cyndane, why leave your vote on him?

2. I don't care how thick anyone's glasses are, if they missed the part where Moggy came in to defend Graen with the same talking points, then I don't know what to say. Moggy has consistently defended Graen, and I felt like they were linked all the way back to when Moggy called me a "tool".

3. The absolute fit that Graen threw when it looked like she had been investigated was really bad. She flailed and danced the scum shuffle step for step. This only solidified my feeling about her being scum.

 

I think a re-read of her fit, and everybody's input are the best things for the town right now. I'll be offline for most of the afternoon, so I'm sure that Graen will delight you with more spew - but I'll try to check in when I can.

[Graendal-Mafia]

Oh yes because if you knew you were town and someone was leading town to believe they viewed you scum you would just sit there and say nothing. I call bull.

 

All I see in that post is "I'm going to tunnel harder."

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

1. The possibility that Dash is fake revealing, and then admitting his findings like he did is remote. This means that unless we learn that he is not the cop, SH has been cleared. Cyndane, why leave your vote on him?

 

 

I'll just quote what I said above.

 

The ones of us that were inclined to believe SH to be working with Moridin have come to the conclusion that the only reason that Moridin would risk himself for SH was because SH was the GF. Since the GF will flip town if he were investigated it was better off for Moridin to sacrifice himself so SH would make it through the night to be investigated. Which big surprise, he has! He flipped town but this still doesn't solve the dilemma.

 

Even if Dashiva is the cop the fact that he got a town read on SH does not really clear him. He could be either town or the GF. And looking at his behavior thus far I still believe he's scum. So, that's why I'm keeping my vote where it is. As far as I'm concerned the read doesn't prove anything one way or the other.

[Graendal-Mafia]

Asmo seems to be throwing FoS's around like candy on top of his tunneling on me, apparently he FoS'd Demandred day 1 (by his own admission because I did not go back to look), FoS'd Moggy because she spoke up for me, and FoS'd Cyndane for giving logical reasoning on why she had her vote on SH still and he was just to lazy to read it.

[Graendal-Mafia]

Moggy defended me, Cyndane didn't show interest in wanting to lynch me, and Osangar put in the effort to understand my logic night one. Osangar died, and both Moggy and Cyndane were FoS'd, the only one hesitent to vote me that did not get FoS'd/killed was Halima for obvious reasons. Does anyone else see the pattern here? Or am I just ape shit crazy?

[Dashiva-Mafia]

3. The absolute fit that Graen threw when it looked like she had been investigated was really bad. She flailed and danced the scum shuffle step for step. This only solidified my feeling about her being scum.

 

I think a re-read of her fit, and everybody's input are the best things for the town right now. I'll be offline for most of the afternoon, so I'm sure that Graen will delight you with more spew - but I'll try to check in when I can.

 

Thats' the reason I didn't say WHO i viewed from the first place. I got my sucpicions on Graendal confirmed without even having to view her.

 

Asmo seems to be throwing FoS's around like candy on top of his tunneling on me, apparently he FoS'd Demandred day 1 (by his own admission because I did not go back to look), FoS'd Moggy because she spoke up for me, and FoS'd Cyndane for giving logical reasoning on why she had her vote on SH still and he was just to lazy to read it.

 

He FoSed three people, by your count. Three people and you call that throwiing it like candy? It's been 36 pages.

[Graendal-Mafia]

3. The absolute fit that Graen threw when it looked like she had been investigated was really bad. She flailed and danced the scum shuffle step for step. This only solidified my feeling about her being scum.

 

I think a re-read of her fit, and everybody's input are the best things for the town right now. I'll be offline for most of the afternoon, so I'm sure that Graen will delight you with more spew - but I'll try to check in when I can.

 

Thats' the reason I didn't say WHO i viewed from the first place. I got my sucpicions on Graendal confirmed without even having to view her.

 

what bs is this? You think a town would sit quietly and let someone they think is scum lynch them? I won't I'll go down fighting with anything I can find.

 

Asmo seems to be throwing FoS's around like candy on top of his tunneling on me, apparently he FoS'd Demandred day 1 (by his own admission because I did not go back to look), FoS'd Moggy because she spoke up for me, and FoS'd Cyndane for giving logical reasoning on why she had her vote on SH still and he was just to lazy to read it.

 

He FoSed three people, by your count. Three people and you call that throwiing it like candy? It's been 36 pages.

 

It's also only barely into day 2, that many FoS's from a replacement no less this early into day 2 is throwing FoS's around like candy.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

1. The possibility that Dash is fake revealing, and then admitting his findings like he did is remote.

 

Why is the chance remote? On the contrary. If you think about it it's a clever way to fake claim. He's claiming he's the cop but at the same time offers up a lynch that he didn't view so if the person lynched flips town he can always say 'yo, I viewed SH. I never said I viewed X. So it isn't on me.' Or alternatively he just might know that Graendal is going to flip town. So if he gave us reassurances about viewing her as scum and then the corner report saying otherwise...he'd be on the chopping block the next day. So, it stands to reason that he would present his findings the way that he has, even if he's fake claiming. It's the only way that he could survive the following days while feeding us BS.

 

I don't know if Dashiva is the cop or not. But I'm not going to act upon information that originate from his personal opinion if I disagree with it. His possible role as cop doesn't guarantee anything cause he could still be wrong in his impression.

[Dashiva-Mafia]

You know what. I see no point in arguing about this any further. I'm getting bloody pissed that virtually no one else has showed up to vote yet.

 

When people come back again, I'll resume any discussion or similar.

[Graendal-Mafia]

Casing this game has been severly lacking, it's basically consisted of attacking the most active townie. namely me. Why is no one calling the lurkers to question Aginor has all of 2 posts 2 posts and no one is holding up a stop sign. I tried to be serious this game... All it got me was lazy cases thrown at me I am EP the player not the role. I'm tired of the lazy cases get your acts to gether and actually hunt scum.

[Dashiva-Mafia]

Ninjad.

 

Naive Cyadane. I'm telling you, Lynch Graendal and we have another scum in the bag. If it she turns out not to be scum, I WILL put myself up on the choppingblock without ANY argument at all.

 

And I'm standing by that sentiment. I'm not going to be like Graendal and go back on my word, flail and whatnot. I will just shut up and die.