[Themed] AVATAR Mafia Game Thread - GAME ON

[Osangar-Mafia]

*watches while whistling tunelessly*

 

Cyndane, what are your thoughts on Belal recently? I believe I noticed him near the top of your list?

 

*Raises hand* I'll say it again. The why aren't we lynching Cyndane the chick who was nearly bandwagoned to death trend makes me skittish. Let's not be having any of that. It's seriously ill thought out play. Restate the case, but stop trying blatent manipulation. Not restating suggests you don't want to appear to care as much as the repetitive questioning says you do.

 

Oh, Cyndane, you have no defense, so Mori thought he'd save time by not saying. *nod*

 

Cyndane being one of Halima's first targets is meaningless given that Halima also defended her pretty heavily- one of the reasons she caught my eye initially.

[Guest Semirhage-Mafia]

I would like to point out that I didn't ask "why have we not lynched Cyndane yet?" my question was directed towards the people on the bandwagon who actually appeared to have some suspicions on her. Apparently I didn't make it clear enough.

People had SOME serious thoughts on her, and I'm just really confused about why that group of people stopped those thoughts.

There, I was even nice enough to quote the relevant previous statement.

 

Second, I disapprove of pondering which characters are out there by making a list. It gives the mafia a chance to make a claim from it being voiced by a supposed town member (unless you get lynched and flip scum, then it's funny).

 

Third, no, I am not Ell. I have yet to post without switching to my alt account.

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

*Raises hand* I'll say it again. The why aren't we lynching Cyndane the chick who was nearly bandwagoned to death trend makes me skittish. Let's not be having any of that. It's seriously ill thought out play. Restate the case, but stop trying blatent manipulation. Not restating suggests you don't want to appear to care as much as the repetitive questioning says you do.

 

Well said. I have wondered over Cyndane but its pointless to just say "why arent we doing it" I did mention this before but I also added that id be willing to look at Cyndane again meaning to do a proper lynch with reasoning et al. Noone seemed to add anything so I dropped it for the time being in favor of sorting out the Ishy/Aggy situation that was going on.

If were willing to look at Cyn properly again ill be happy to discuss it, but for now the focus does seem to be on Moridin and with whats already been said it seems to be the way to go.

I cant add any reasons for voting other than what others have already brought up and for now thats enough for me so until anything else crops up

 

VOTE MORIDIN

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

Also, Mesaana, why do you think Aginor was the healer?

I was wondering if anyone would mention that. I thought it would be a good idea to check up on him. He stayed the night with the avatar and that was the healer role in the series. So yea thats a healer gone imo but there was more then one healer in the series wasnt there so idk

 

Im also going to VOTE MORIDIN because he is the most scummy at the moment and I think everyone agrees

[Guest Moridin-Mafia]

Yes I am Ell, my bad. Would have been back sooner but I have a life full of children!

 

I am innocent. Believe me or not I refuse to OMGUS, I will go with dignity!

I do urge you to take your votes elsewhere while there is still time though.

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

Not much of a response to the votes piling up on you Moridin. I think ill keep my vote where it is

[Guest Moridin-Mafia]

Moggy Dear, what do you want me to say? begging and pleading didn't help the others *shrug*

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

I suppose this is true it just seemed a bit off that all we got from you was "im innocent" I guess im just a bit too used to people that are about to be lynched fighting for their innocence a bit more . All well and good urging us to reconsider the votes but if its not coupled with some kind of reason then its not going to make people change their minds

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Cyndane, what are your thoughts on Belal recently? I believe I noticed him near the top of your list?

 

Yes. I was wondering when this was going to pop up. I have no time to answer now, but I will do so after work.

 

*Raises hand* I'll say it again. The why aren't we lynching Cyndane the chick who was nearly bandwagoned to death trend makes me skittish. Let's not be having any of that. It's seriously ill thought out play. Restate the case, but stop trying blatent manipulation. Not restating suggests you don't want to appear to care as much as the repetitive questioning says you do.

 

"The chick"?

 

Cyndane being one of Halima's first targets is meaningless given that Halima also defended her pretty heavily- one of the reasons she caught my eye initially.

 

You've mentioned this before, but I seem to have forgotten this event. Noting for later. But my original point is still unmoot.

[Balthamel-Mafia]

There is a lot to address in my brief absence. Aginor’s corner report does shed light on a few things, now I believe his dream 100% which does answer some questions. My first question is, would it be amiss for me to request the finder reveal themselves and the information they have, if they are still alive. This could be very helpful in narrowing down our search if we could eliminate some names off the list of potential Mafia. Also, I find the NK on Aginor a rather stupid choice for the Mafia, for the same reason a NK on Asmodean was.

 

The main information we have is, Aginor dreamed Ishmeal was with Osan’gar, this being the same night that Osang’gar targeted both himself & Taim (Mesaana confirming this) and Taim ending up dead. Due to this info & Ishmaels character I agree with the assumption that Ishmeal was responsible for the 2nd kill. The only thing that woud have helped more, in my opinion, is if Ishmeal would have confirmed he targeted Osan’gar.

 

Even though this seems to clear both Osan’gar & Mesaana, due to their playing, I can’t help but still find both of them equally suspicion. It goes without saying that they’re alignment are officially linked in my mind.

 

Mesaana, what stands out most to me right now is the voting done on Ishmeal. You quoted a vote count, which showed your vote on Aginor, then “forgot to unvote” when you decided to change your vote to Ishmael. This is either a blatant oversight, or an attempt at manipulation. I can’t understand why you, as scum, would make such an obvious move; but far be it for me to question the motives of one such as yourself. Also, your interactions from Day 1 with Lanfear still leave a bitter taste in my mouth. Another point is, you have yet to reveal the information you gained from last night; seeing as you are already revealed, why hide this potentially helpful info from us?

 

Cyndane, your lack of casting a vote is intriguing, but does nothing to further implicate or clear you; I just find it a note worthy action. To answer your question directly Semirhage, the main reason I’m less inclined to vote Cyndane is two fold. First is that two of the people I’m finding most scummy right now, are the two people pushing a vote on her the hardest right now; even after people, including myself, have repeatedly answered your inquiries. Second, and most informative, is how quickly the vote on Cyndane grew; this gives me a slight pause seeing as we are most likely close to a LYLO situation.

 

Lastly I’ll address the Modrin & Semirhage issue. Both of these people I find equally suspicious. Semirhage, you pinged me in the beginning and have continued to ping me since then; Mordin, for your recent interactions with Aginor and you continued unhelpfulness in the search for scum. Seeing how slowly your Bandwagon has grown, it makes me think you are indeed scum. That said, others have suggested that we may be getting close to the wire; in light of this, and that you are at L-1, I’d like to give you the rest of today to sway my mind. If you are innocent, I think a reveal might be the best course of action honestly.

[Kivam]

Vote Count

 

Moridin (5) - Osangar, Belal, Dashiva, Moghedien, Mesaana

Cyndane (1) - Moridin

 

6 to lynch

[Balthamel-Mafia]

Oh, I’d also like to point out that Shaidar Haran is #3 on my list of suspects currently. I’ve found him scummy the entire game & after Hamila was lynched he virtually disappeared. I think we might bear heavy fruit if we apply pressure to him, at least to get him out from the shadows.

 

 

Here are some quotes I felt worth pointing out.

 

Tomorrow I will change my vote if I have to but I think we all need to just decide to go with someone and take the plunge. Lynching an innocent will atleast move the game a bit

 

Your offhanded & flippant comment towards lynching an innocent is one reason why I find myself itching to vote you even though your lower on my list than some. Lynching an innocent might move the game a bit, but so would lynching the Avatar; by your logic, both are okay even though we are coming close to end game with only one mafia gone. Poor form Mesaana, very poor form.

 

 

I saw no reason why I couldn't pose my own question while things are a bit slow for the holiday. I am not detracting from any sort of other discussion, nor would I be upset if no one had answered me at all. It's mafia, people will talk about whomever they want to talk about. I am just the most comfortable with my thoughts on Cyndane, and wanted to see if anyone came up with the same thoughts I have before posting them. Apparently not.

 

For those of you who are curious on my thoughts on Cyndane: I still find it HIGHLY suspicious that she wanted to forestall the lynch on Halima. For whatever reasons she claims, I still see no reason to stop a lynch than to give the mafia time to squirm their way out of it. Night is a perfectly good time to discuss things, and I see no reason why you would want to leave a confirmed mafia member (by the MOD no less) alive.

 

First, you claim that you “wont be upset if no one answers you” on the Cyndane issue; yet your actions say otherwise. Second is the bit about Cyndane’s attempt to forestall the lynch on Halima, as you so pointedly put it. Your reasoning seem a bit half-assed, if you ask me. You claim that her intentions were to forestall the lynch to allow the mafia time to squirm their way out of it; yet I ask you this, how could a Mod Confirmed Scum squirm their way out of any lynch? Given that the town still outnumbers the scum and had ample numbers to secure the vote even if all the Scum team choose to not vote.

 

Though I have not played in any other game with Cyndane other than this one, I would think even a newbie player would see how obvious a move that would be and therefore would be less likely to attempt to openly “forestall” a lynch on one of their scum buddies.

 

 

I voted Aginor because he was merely trying to deflect the vote to me which I found scummy. I will admit I was swayed into voting Ishy by Mesaana, however as it has been pointed out why are we ignoring Cyndane all of a sudden?

 

Now I can understand your vote on Cyndane, it’s a matter of self preservation, I can even understand you trying to deflect interest from yourself onto her; what I can’t understand if you placing the blame for your vote on Ishmeal onto Mesaana’s shoulders. A vig can be both helpful & harmful, depending on how the role is used, and no one is denying that Ishmael wasn’t acting scummy. Also, I see that you are openly budding up to Semirhage; first with the Cyndane issue & now with the pokes at Mesaana’s antics during the end of Ishmael’s votes.

 

 

I am innocent. Believe me or not I refuse to OMGUS, I will go with dignity!

I do urge you to take your votes elsewhere while there is still time though.

 

This is a typical scum answer, and does nothing to sway me from wanting to vote you right now. But, as I’ve already given you my ultimatum, I will withhold my vote until tomorrow morning; which shall be ample time for you to reveal if you feel so inclined to do so.

[Osangar-Mafia]

I have work to do, but a lot to respond to. I am going to break it up. First:

 

I would like to point out that I didn't ask "why have we not lynched Cyndane yet?" my question was directed towards the people on the bandwagon who actually appeared to have some suspicions on her. Apparently I didn't make it clear enough.

People had SOME serious thoughts on her, and I'm just really confused about why that group of people stopped those thoughts.

There, I was even nice enough to quote the relevant previous statement.

Oh, you mean this statement doesn’t count?

Anywhoo, I would like to pose a question to everyone. Why did everyone suddenly drop all their reasons for wanting to lynch Cyndane? Out of everyone she is the one I am feeling the most uneasy about, and would like to see why all of a sudden people just stopped voting for her...

[Dashiva-Mafia]

b-b-b-busted!

[Osangar-Mafia]

Second, I disapprove of pondering which characters are out there by making a list. It gives the mafia a chance to make a claim from it being voiced by a supposed town member (unless you get lynched and flip scum, then it's funny).

 

Third, no, I am not Ell. I have yet to post without switching to my alt account.

Umm, all any of you have to do is wiki Avatar characters. And it’d give more info…

 

Yes I am Ell, my bad. Would have been back sooner but I have a life full of children!

 

I am innocent. Believe me or not I refuse to OMGUS, I will go with dignity!

I do urge you to take your votes elsewhere while there is still time though.

That’s a good way to not sway anyone. More info, more fight. Short and sweet works just as well if you lack for time. But not that nothing of a post that anyone, ANYONE, could have made. Why should we not vote you? You’ve bandwagoned and avoided in depth play. Katara found you suspicious all the while hinting at reasons that she didn’t want for which ever reason. Most everyone has found you suspect. Why are we wrong?

 

I suppose this is true it just seemed a bit off that all we got from you was "im innocent" I guess im just a bit too used to people that are about to be lynched fighting for their innocence a bit more . All well and good urging us to reconsider the votes but if its not coupled with some kind of reason then its not going to make people change their minds

This, although this seems… almost wishy washy. Almost.

 

 

Cyndane, what are your thoughts on Belal recently? I believe I noticed him near the top of your list?

 

Yes. I was wondering when this was going to pop up. I have no time to answer now, but I will do so after work.

 

*Raises hand* I'll say it again. The why aren't we lynching Cyndane the chick who was nearly bandwagoned to death trend makes me skittish. Let's not be having any of that. It's seriously ill thought out play. Restate the case, but stop trying blatent manipulation. Not restating suggests you don't want to appear to care as much as the repetitive questioning says you do.

 

"The chick"?

 

Cyndane being one of Halima's first targets is meaningless given that Halima also defended her pretty heavily- one of the reasons she caught my eye initially.

 

You've mentioned this before, but I seem to have forgotten this event. Noting for later. But my original point is still unmoot.

1. I will hold you to it. I am greatly interested.

2. Chick. You are wearing a woman’s body and all. I could call you a tranny, but I think that’s mean.

3. Hey, I’m all about supporting people in their endeavors. :D

[Belal-Mafia]

LMFAO!!!! Everybody better get their boots on, sh*ts starting to get real deep up in this joint. That was epic. I lol'd super hard at that. Thank you so much Ossy dear for making everyone look at me funny

[Belal-Mafia]

BTW I am super excited about hearing what everyone has to say about me. It almost makes me feel alive again... *sigh*

[Balthamel-Mafia]

Second, I disapprove of pondering which characters are out there by making a list. It gives the mafia a chance to make a claim from it being voiced by a supposed town member (unless you get lynched and flip scum, then it's funny).

 

Third, no, I am not Ell. I have yet to post without switching to my alt account.

 

Umm, all any of you have to do is wiki Avatar characters. And it’d give more info…

 

To further Osan’gars point, the Mafia would be stupid to claim a character as it would be a neon sign as to who they were.

 

Character reveals are useless in this game Sem, unless I’m mistaken, wouldn't one get MK'd for character revealing their true character. Following that logic, if so & so came out and said "hey i'm ___ from the show" and wasn't MK'd we'd know they were lying and then we'd also know they were most likely scum because only scum have anything to gain from false reveals.

 

I cringe to say this, but thank you Osan’gar for pointing that out; I missed that on my read through. I think we have officially caught a scum here ladies & gents.

[Osangar-Mafia]

There is a lot to address in my brief absence. Aginor’s corner report does shed light on a few things, now I believe his dream 100% which does answer some questions. My first question is, would it be amiss for me to request the finder reveal themselves and the information they have, if they are still alive. This could be very helpful in narrowing down our search if we could eliminate some names off the list of potential Mafia.

I would also find this useful. But highly dangerous. Finder, as always, be careful.

Also, I find the NK on Aginor a rather stupid choice for the Mafia, for the same reason a NK on Asmodean was.

I’d say as a gamble, it rather paid off for them. Stupid to do, but I think I may have said too much and people were too hesitant. They had to have known how dangerous leaving him for another night could have been. It makes me wonder about the Moridin lynch. But only a little in that WIFOM sort of way.

 

The main information we have is, Aginor dreamed Ishmeal was with Osan’gar, this being the same night that Osang’gar targeted both himself & Taim (Mesaana confirming this) and Taim ending up dead. Due to this info & Ishmaels character I agree with the assumption that Ishmeal was responsible for the 2nd kill. The only thing that woud have helped more, in my opinion, is if Ishmeal would have confirmed he targeted Osan’gar.

I rather wish he would have, though I can see why he wouldn’t. It was equally chancy for it to save or kill him. I would have spoken my suspicions if he’d have confirmed… Plus, who wants to take the blame for killing a lotus? I know I didn’t.

 

Even though this seems to clear both Osan’gar & Mesaana, due to their playing, I can’t help but still find both of them equally suspicion. It goes without saying that they’re alignment are officially linked in my mind.

 

Mesaana, what stands out most to me right now is the voting done on Ishmeal. You quoted a vote count, which showed your vote on Aginor, then “forgot to unvote” when you decided to change your vote to Ishmael. This is either a blatant oversight, or an attempt at manipulation. I can’t understand why you, as scum, would make such an obvious move; but far be it for me to question the motives of one such as yourself.

Considering Mesaana’s play, highlighted here, that’s a mutual concern.

 

Another point is, you have yet to reveal the information you gained from last night; seeing as you are already revealed, why hide this potentially helpful info from us?

Good point.

 

 

Second, and most informative, is how quickly the vote on Cyndane grew; this gives me a slight pause seeing as we are most likely close to a LYLO situation.

LYLO? The growth did not surprise me since, iirc, it was all crammed into the end of the day. I’ve somewhat dismissed it due to the several circumstances. Mod warning, need a lynch, etc. It is worth noting, but only as a minor building block.

 

Oh, I’d also like to point out that Shaidar Haran is #3 on my list of suspects currently. I’ve found him scummy the entire game & after Hamila was lynched he virtually disappeared. I think we might bear heavy fruit if we apply pressure to him, at least to get him out from the shadows.

Yes, I’ve been having trouble gauging him due to inactivity. I think he’s the last of the lowliars.

Here are some quotes I felt worth pointing out.

Tomorrow I will change my vote if I have to but I think we all need to just decide to go with someone and take the plunge. Lynching an innocent will atleast move the game a bit

 

Your offhanded & flippant comment towards lynching an innocent is one reason why I find myself itching to vote you even though your lower on my list than some. Lynching an innocent might move the game a bit, but so would lynching the Avatar; by your logic, both are okay even though we are coming close to end game with only one mafia gone. Poor form Mesaana, very poor form.

This. Why the hell do we want to lynch away when we are close to end game? Don’t forget, everyone, I’ve spoken previously of suspicions of a mafia finder type. And if I didn’t, I meant to!

I cringe to say this, but thank you Osan’gar for pointing that out; I missed that on my read through. I think we have officially caught a scum here ladies & gents.

Lol, thanks. I am not positive, but I am pretty sure. And I did hesitate for a while before posting that because it could give away info about the types of characters. But due to the method of coroner we are suffering under, I am HIGHLY curious how someone wouldn’t realize that the mafia would have looked up character roles and types or asked a resident expert. Just think about the mod ruling on absolutely NO character reveals. If it was a snake, it’d have bit you.

[Osangar-Mafia]

LMFAO!!!! Everybody better get their boots on, sh*ts starting to get real deep up in this joint. That was epic. I lol'd super hard at that. Thank you so much Ossy dear for making everyone look at me funny

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[Osangar-Mafia]

b-b-b-busted!

You tickle me.

 

 

For the record, Semirhage tomorrow? Barring the standard caveats...

[Belal-Mafia]

LMFAO!!!! Everybody better get their boots on, sh*ts starting to get real deep up in this joint. That was epic. I lol'd super hard at that. Thank you so much Ossy dear for making everyone look at me funny

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I'm at my house, it was really quiet and all of a sudden I starting laughing and couldn't stop. My family was giving me wierd and dirty looks.

 

 

Semmy seems as of now a good candidate, you guys both pointed out a lot of good reasons, but right now I think we should focus on one day at a time right now. A lot could change between now and then, and I really don't want to be led any where right now. I'll do a reread, focusing on Semmy a little later to make sure I come up with the same conclusion, but on my own.

[Osangar-Mafia]

That makes more sense. At first, I read it as a comment on my question to Cyndane, as in everyone in game looking at you. It just didn't make sense with the tone that way.

 

About Semirhage, that'd be a standard caveat, I think. And Moridin may pull something out of his arse yet. Remember the past, be cognizant of the future, live in the present. Heck, I'd ask for people to back of Moridin just a tad more to give time for a last ditch effort if I didn't feel it would put us in a bind.

[Dashiva-Mafia]

Well seeing how nobody is jumping on the hammer, I think there's enough time for Moridin to prove his innocence.

[Osangar-Mafia]

Not voting

Shaidar- conspicuously absent

Semirhage- wrapped herself in a box

Demandred- ?

Bathamel- withholding for now

Cyndane- withholding for now

 

;) Like I said.