[Themed] AVATAR Mafia Game Thread - GAME ON

[Dashiva-Mafia]

Osangar, I was reading over your posts, and I was thinking... Wouldn't Zuko also be in this game? Based on the characters seen?

 

And even though it's kind of late for this kind of vote, the misspelling of osangars name, along with his current circular posting has kind of gotten me peeved so....

 

Vote Aginor

 

I think we need to be more careful about voting Aginor, or at least wait for him to give us a straight answer and not one of those weird dream sequences.

 

Right now, Ishmael is striking me as the most scummy. I'm not sure how it's possible to completely miss Zuko dying, but he managed to. That could have been simple oversight, but maybe he's just trying to sound helpful for the sake of not looking scummy?

 

Also, his vote for Aginor doesn't have much weight behind it.

 

So, I can't believe I'm going to agree with Cyndane, but...

 

VOTE ISHMAEL

[Kivam]

VOTE COUNT

 

Aginor (6) - Osangar, Belal, Ishamael, Mesaana, Moghedien, Moridin

Ishamael (2) - Cyndane, Dashiva

 

7 to lynch

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Whoa. is anyone reading before they vote?

 

This all smells wrong to me.

 

FoS Moridin for quick vote on a L-2 with no real reason. Wierded you out? Puh-leez. Get your head in the game. This is mafia, not kindergarten.

 

Also FoS Mesaana and Moghedian. Someone REALLY wants to lynch Aginor fast, it seems. Why? Afraid of what he'll say?

 

In...ter...sting.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

pps also AGINOR's little dream came before day break didnt it? And dont you get MOD killed for revealing before day break? Im not sure about that last bit but its bugging me

 

Good catch on that one. Youre FoS is slightly less than Moghedien and Moridin.

 

That pile onto Aginor is very unnerving. Just one after the other. One, two, maybe three votes I can understand. But already to 6 without allowing him to respond? Fish-ee.

[Osangar-Mafia]

Osangar, I was reading over your posts, and I was thinking... Wouldn't Zuko also be in this game? Based on the characters seen?

Rahvin was Zuko, right?

 

I’m sorry my reasoning is circular. I just realized something possibly bad for the town if we don’t figure it out. I’m trying to pull some info. It may be a bit.

 

pps also AGINOR's little dream came before day break didnt it?

Interesting. Did not catch that. Going back to check the link.

Something thats bothering me is Cyndane. Not whats being said by them but how everyone seems to have ignored her today after being so close to a lynch yesterday. Did I miss something here or is it a case of bigger fish to fry what with Aginor sticking his neck out?

My guess is that most who voted her did so only because it was a deadline due and didn’t want to deal with consequences. It was a bandwagon. That doesn’t make me not suspicious of her, but everyone else…

 

Aginor seems to be the current topic. With his posts I have concerns, I personally see an attempt to distract and reveal a useful role in one. What I dont see is a good reason to go for a reveal at this point in the game.

I was an idiot and missed a very obvious avenue. I think I screwed up because it seemed a juicy catch. We have another problem…

 

I think we need to be more careful about voting Aginor, or at least wait for him to give us a straight answer and not one of those weird dream sequences.

Yes. The lynch is going too quick. I need an answer.

 

UNVOTE!!!

 

VOTE ISHMAEL

No. I wish I could ask you to trust me. But you won’t. Just trust me. It has to do with something big.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Also, look at the time stamps for those votes.

 

From Ishamaels vote to Moridins vote is less than an hour. Could be nothing. But could be scum buddies conversing toghether before jumping on the vote.

 

Just an observation that I think worth note. Not worth a vote by itself, but something to add to a list, eh?

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

VOTE ISHMAEL

No. I wish I could ask you to trust me. But you won’t. Just trust me. It has to do with something big.

 

Trust is very hard to do in a mafia game, dear. While I agree we shouldn't just lynch someone right now, I have no problem with my vote on Ishamael at this time. He's most suspect to me, and has been for a time. Inactivity. Substance-less posts. Bandwagon from day 1. Begins to paint a pretty picture.

[Osangar-Mafia]

Aginor’s post

 

day break

Yep, that’s nearly 12 hours between them. In light of that, my suspicions are probably very wrong. Still, I’d like answers to be safe.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Unless he was bringing up a previous Night. Though the timing still seems weird.

[Osangar-Mafia]

"Is it a delicious tea, or is it poison?"Iroh pondered. He knew he'd seen that flower in one of his books. It would either make a transcendent, jasmine scented tea with just the right balance of sweet and bitter, with floral overtones and backnotes of spice, or it would condemn him to a slow, agonizing death. He'd done many things over the course of his life, learned much, but he couldn't say for certain. He closed his eyes to concentrateHe was still pondering when the sword^* bit into the back of his neck. "I should have tried the tea." Not the last words he would have planned for himself. But those who knew him would have considered them appropriate.

 

SAMMAEL (IROH), a townie firebender, has been killed. Day 3 has begun. With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch.Players with QTs, please check them. One or two of you have a message.

 

*note: please do not attempt to read anything into the pictures or descriptions in the death scenes. I do not give out information on who is acting or anything else in my death scenes. Happy hunting

 

 

VOTE ISHMAEL

No. I wish I could ask you to trust me. But you won’t. Just trust me. It has to do with something big.

Trust is very hard to do in a mafia game, dear. While I agree we shouldn't just lynch someone right now, I have no problem with my vote on Ishamael at this time. He's most suspect to me, and has been for a time. Inactivity. Substance-less posts. Bandwagon from day 1. Begins to paint a pretty picture.

*cough* Mod's bold. *cough, cough* Here's why I suddenly hesitated.

[Osangar-Mafia]

Unless he was bringing up a previous Night. Though the timing still seems weird.

That makes it just as unlikely.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Ah. I see.

 

Only makes sense if his 'dream' was of this previous night?

 

In.

 

Ter.

 

Sting.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

The QT message bit, Osangar? For Day 3? That's why you hesitate...now?

 

Curious.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

DM 8 is really pissing me off...

[Osangar-Mafia]

Ah. I see.Only makes sense if his 'dream' was of this previous night?In.Ter.Sting.

No. I've given you the people I know I should have appeared with. As there was nothing changed with my abilities or anything else, anyone who visited me on any other night was a town player, I'd say.

 

I have no clue about the veracity of... Mesaana, was it?

 

No, that's not what you were supposed to see. Look at the bold. Only the bold.

[Osangar-Mafia]

The QT message bit, Osangar? For Day 3? That's why you hesitate...now?Curious.

Not just now. I saw it then. I was thinking it applies to events now. Not worth noting in thread till it matters.

[Kivam]

VOTE COUNT

 

Aginor (5) - Belal, Ishamael, Mesaana, Moghedien, Moridin

Ishamael (2) - Cyndane, Dashiva

 

7 to lynch

[Ishamael-Mafia]

Also, look at the time stamps for those votes.

 

From Ishamaels vote to Moridins vote is less than an hour. Could be nothing. But could be scum buddies conversing toghether before jumping on the vote.

 

Just an observation that I think worth note. Not worth a vote by itself, but something to add to a list, eh?

Interesting indeed that would be. Most mafia know better I would think.

I do not confer with other players before I vote. I just happen to be awake at that time and be online. It happens.

 

But for you to pair me off with Moridin. Distracting from the voting on gainer much?

[Ishamael-Mafia]

AGINOR* I shall throttle spellcheck one of these days.

[Balthamel-Mafia]

Okay please bare with me as I have some catching up to do and a lot of information to digest.

 

Cyndane, I never suggested that you intended to halt Halima's lynch; i just disagree with your logic of wanting to slow it down. In my opinion, because she was a mod confirmed mafia, her scum buddies wouldn't hesitate to up on her lynch. In fact, I’m of the opinion that at least 1 of her scum buddies are in the first 2 votes on her lynch; with maybe the hammer being another one of her buddies. I also mentioned that an innocent would be more likely to suggest this, and the scum would use that suggestion to lynch the innocent. It makes you less scummy in my book, but isn't enough to totally clear you.

 

As to the issue at hand. While I agree that Aginor is suspicious, I also agree that the vote on him moved way too fast to be of any comfort. His lack of an answer doesn't do anything to lend him credit, but unless Kivam has given us a deadline I propose giving Aginor until Wed night to answer our questions concerning his dream sequence. If he still refuses to answer, or doesn't post at all, then we can decide whether we want to continue to lynch him or someone else.

 

At this point, a few lynches will give us a lot of information. A lynch on either Mesaana or Aginor will confirm the info they've given us, A lynch on Ishmeal will implicate either Osangar or Aginor, the same goes for Osangar in light of Aginors "dream". I find the dream odd as well, not only the timing of when it was posted, but also that there has only been one dream thus far. If this was a power of Aginors, would it not be safe to assume he's had this power the entire game? If this is true, then why only release the info gained from one dream. The mention of QT boards, plural as in more than one, did give me pause as well. It could be that what Osangar suggests is true, that the two are connected; but then we are left with the oddity of when the info was released. Why not during the day, when it would be less suspicious.

 

The last thing that sets me on edge is the double kill last night; if we do have a Vig of Serial Killer running around, why are they only now killing.

 

 

Here are a few other things I felt I needed to address.

 

I need to check on a few things. We should have May, Xiao, Izula, and Daddy (Ozai?) to deal with? Maybe minus one?

 

Given the normal balance for games, I agree that 5 Mafia & 1 solo would be a good estimate.

 

Osangar, I was reading over your posts, and I was thinking... Wouldn't Zuko also be in this game? Based on the characters seen?

 

Either you overlooked it, or you’re just skimming; coupled with your lurking and non-helpful posts, this makes you very suspicious in my book.

 

 

ok I really what to know who you checked last night and got os and ishy im your "dream' because I decided to check out Osangar for myself last night and I clearly got him being with taim. So tell me how that works??

 

 

ps I also know that Cyndane didnt have a NA on N3 and Belal didnt on N1. I missed N2 because I just couldnt get to a computer in time. I know this doesnt really help but last nights seems useful

 

pps also AGINOR's little dream came before day break didnt it? And dont you get MOD killed for revealing before day break? Im not sure about that last bit but its bugging me

 

So you’re a tracker, correct? And these are your NA’s

 

N1 – Belal (no NA)

N2 – n/a

N3 – Cyndane (no NA)

N4 – Osangar (Targeted Taim)

 

This backs up Osangar’s claim for having targeted Taim (though not having deflected the NK from himself to Taim). Therefore either Mesaana & Osangar are on a team, or they’re both telling the truth. Still, keeping in mind that Taim did die and we know that Osangar did target Taim, it shouldn’t be discounted that Osangar could possibly be a killer of some sort and not a re-director.

 

 

Something thats bothering me is Cyndane. Not whats being said by them but how everyone seems to have ignored her today after being so close to a lynch yesterday.

 

This occurred to me as well, but what also sticks out is in the same post you also vote for Aginor instead of following through on this. Very interesting.

 

VOTE AGINOR

 

That dream sequence weirded me out too...

 

This vote is suspicious; more has been said other than the dream yet you add nothing to it and use that as a flimsy reason to vote him when everyone is cautioning not jumping the gun.

[Balthamel-Mafia]

Also, look at the time stamps for those votes.

 

From Ishamaels vote to Moridins vote is less than an hour. Could be nothing. But could be scum buddies conversing toghether before jumping on the vote.

 

Just an observation that I think worth note. Not worth a vote by itself, but something to add to a list, eh?

Interesting indeed that would be. Most mafia know better I would think.

I do not confer with other players before I vote. I just happen to be awake at that time and be online. It happens.

 

But for you to pair me off with Moridin. Distracting from the voting on gainer much?

 

 

*Shakes fist* Curse Dragonmount for not informing me of new posts.

 

It depends on the situation. For example, if you have enough of your team left to secure a lynch on an innocent the Mafia has been known to coordinate their votes. Especially if it results in lynching a power role, it's to secure the win, or majority of their team is flying under the radar.

 

She's not distracting much from the vote on Aginor, most of us would prefer to hear from Aginor than lynch him without giving him a chance to explain himself. Why are your so intent on rushing the vote on Aginor? You do realize that these actions implicate you, especially if he flips innocent.

[Osangar-Mafia]

The mention of QT boards, plural as in more than one, did give me pause as well. It could be that what Osangar suggests is true, that the two are connected; but then we are left with the oddity of when the info was released. Why not during the day, when it would be less suspicious.

Which is exactly why I said better safe than sorry, but after noticing the time stamps, it’s less likely.

The last thing that sets me on edge is the double kill last night; if we do have a Vig of Serial Killer running around, why are they only now killing.

There are a number of characters I can see here, so I don’t discount it. As for why? A smart player waits for the most info they can get. The timing doesn’t bother me. Also, we can’t be sure it hadn’t happened before (some are more than one shot) with the activity levels, it’s plausible that either mafia or sk/vig missed a night or more.

 

This vote is suspicious; more has been said other than the dream yet you add nothing to it and use that as a flimsy reason to vote him when everyone is cautioning not jumping the gun.

Pounce. I’d use the word pounce for what he just did. ;)

 

This backs up Osangar’s claim for having targeted Taim (though not having deflected the NK from himself to Taim). Therefore either Mesaana & Osangar are on a team, or they’re both telling the truth. Still, keeping in mind that Taim did die and we know that Osangar did target Taim, it shouldn’t be discounted that Osangar could possibly be a killer of some sort and not a re-director.

I’m a body snatcher! :P

 

She's not distracting much from the vote on Aginor, most of us would prefer to hear from Aginor than lynch him without giving him a chance to explain himself. Why are your so intent on rushing the vote on Aginor? You do realize that these actions implicate you, especially if he flips innocent.

Not to mention having the ability to say something to help us out here. Why would you be seen with Taim (or me), should this claim prove true? Is there any reason? You could be a big help, yet, you are not. I have two mutually exclusive theories on you, and you fail to say a word. One wonders.

[Aginor-Mafia]

Friends, there are things that can be said and things that cannot. Even harder when you have a sock in your mouth, but I know the watchful eye of the Mod on high can confirm that sometimes you just have to go with your gut without letting your tongue get you the Mod's guillotine. Savvy?

 

Now, perhaps this old man had himself a vision and perhaps this old man did not. Whose to say? I agree things might be easier to swallow if I was to have spoken up earlier, but gag me with a spoon if I didn't want to.

 

What is important to note is how quickly this bandwagon on your's truly caught fire. Would a mafia team in this position come this close to a flawless win and then stick one of its own out to hang? Not hardly. While Osengar isn't off my list, he's making more sense now, especially in light of how weak some of the bandwagoniers reasons for voting have been. Why the rush? Why the haste in lynching someone who just now spoke up?

 

I reveal a bit more when I say that a great trick to lure the mafia into the open is to "beat the grass to startle the snakes." That should tell a great deal about where I'm coming from and where my mynd is at. So I ask you, friends. Who among those bandwagoned on me are scummy scummersons who see an easy lynch? Who among them have done nothing to help case the mafia?

 

Moridin, what say you about all this?

[Osangar-Mafia]

Friends, there are things that can be said and things that cannot. Even harder when you have a sock in your mouth, but I know the watchful eye of the Mod on high can confirm that sometimes you just have to go with your gut without letting your tongue get you the Mod's guillotine. Savvy?

 

Now, perhaps this old man had himself a vision and perhaps this old man did not. Whose to say? I agree things might be easier to swallow if I was to have spoken up earlier, but gag me with a spoon if I didn't want to.

 

What is important to note is how quickly this bandwagon on your's truly caught fire. Would a mafia team in this position come this close to a flawless win and then stick one of its own out to hang? Not hardly. While Osengar isn't off my list, he's making more sense now, especially in light of how weak some of the bandwagoniers reasons for voting have been. Why the rush? Why the haste in lynching someone who just now spoke up?

 

I reveal a bit more when I say that a great trick to lure the mafia into the open is to "beat the grass to startle the snakes." That should tell a great deal about where I'm coming from and where my mynd is at. So I ask you, friends. Who among those bandwagoned on me are scummy scummersons who see an easy lynch? Who among them have done nothing to help case the mafia?

 

Moridin, what say you about all this?

...

That wasn't helpful. Oh, I see a few things of note, but largely, that's not helpful. Be helpful instead.

[Dashiva-Mafia]

Haha that wasn't helpful at all.

 

Although I am interested to know why he specifically called out Moridin. Maybe he's trying to tell us something without breaking Kiv's mod rules?