Mad Hatter Mafia Tea Party - GAME OVER-Page 94

July 23, 2008

You keep trying to divert attention from you to me Rahvin. I have explained myself numerous times, yet not once have you told us who you have allied with or what your objectives are. From various PMs you have sent me I can gather that you are working with at least three other people. Would you like me to quote those PMs in the thread for all to see? They have some quite incriminating evidence about you in them.

When you decided to quote little parts of my PMs that are not in context did you ever consider how dishonest that is? You clearly have a hidden agenda, seeing as you have been pushing so hard for us to have a mass reveal, let's hear your story...

Can you manage an entire post without lying? We'll just have to see, won't we... ;)

July 23, 2008

If you really have anything to post, for the Light and the Creator, please post it!

When will the double talk, bluffing, and blaming RAHVIN for everything cease?? If you have sufficient proof that I am anything other than what I have posted here, then I will vote myself.

You wanna know who I allied with? Well, I allied with you for a while and look where that got me. :-\

Incriminate me! Please! Let's move this game forward!

ShaidarHaran-Mafia · July 23, 2008

Colouring is for catching the attention of the people the comment is directed at, bolding is for catching people's attention generally given the length of the post and reader fatigue.

Okay Ravi, here's the way I see it:

On PM Fishing

You've been PM'ing people messages with key phrases in them to see where they end up? Clever, but not incriminating all by itself. That's why I got sick of hearing about you accusing Lanfear when she passed information along.

Confidences ending up in another player's hands would be a sure sign of guilt in a game where only the mafia are able to communicate outside the thread, but in such a game such a ploy would be impossible, and in a game such as this it is evidence only of communication and possibly of allegiance. Allegiance such as you yourself and Moridin have evidently both cultivated, and not necessarily evil. But previously in this game you have used this tactic to fish for people to incriminate and then kept at them apparently for no reason other than to 'beat the grass to startle the snakes' as you put it. Which, when you have no case at all, amounts to nothing more than causing confusion and dragging the thread around in circular conversations.

So now you've actually turned something up. Let's take a look at that.

On Lesbian Vampires and Other Creatures of the Knight:

Okay, you PM Moggy and she simply tells you that she's a vampire? And who her cohorts are? I'd take this a little more seriously if I thought for a second that anyone on an evil or cult-like or third-alignment style team would simply tell you what they were. You have given no context to this exchange. How did you prompt this reveal? How are you sure that it indicates evility?

What of the parties involved?

Lanny outright denies involvement with any vampires and the information you yourself posted indicates that she was not (yet) part of whatever the conspiracy was, given the comment about getting to Moridin first, although another quote says she is a vampire. That inconsistency says to me that you are selectively quoting and trying to stitch things together into a whole that isn't there. I'd like to see the whole conversation.

Moggy does not deny being in contact with anyone but has not said anything on the vampire issue. Can we get a comment?

And Be'lal, the silent one who famously disaproves of games with out-of-thread communication. Who has by his own admission been contacted by Lanfear before, which actually lends credence to this tale. Can we pry your lips open for a second?

I want the full story. From someone.

How did you get your info Rahvin? Spill. That might make me trust you a bit more. You keep alluding to this White Knight role you made up? What does that have to do with all this? If you've been posing as a fake role in order to extract information about people's roles, I think I know exactly how to respond to that. Make this look a little less worse than it currently is, or you'd better pray I don't get my hands on a red vial.

On Flying Pumpkins that Shoot Lasers Out Of Their Arses

That said, if we assume for a moment that the finder reading on you was accurate and that there are no godfather roles active in this game, then the most suspicious person in all of this is Moggy. Semi's coroner-hood has been backed up by none other than Lanfear. That means both sides of the divide support this conclusion. Moggy's finding makes her either mistaken or a liar. It doesn't help that the name of this role is taken straight out of the mafiascum wiki. If loki were to make up random roles I think he of all people is perfectly capable of generating his own craziness. That seems to indicate that the finding is faked, but I'm at a loss to think of a reason why Mogs would make such a play.

So basically I know just enough to know that I don't know a goat damned thing. But other people are acting like they do.

Mori, it's your turn.

Apart from being a sarcastic bastard earlier in the game :P you are now letting our daylight hours run down while you sit on information which you claim will incriminate Rahvin and much of his following. You've given no reason for the delay apart from a desire to watch him squirm. What? Waiting for something? If you have incriminating evidence on a player, it's time to let the cat out of the bag, not sit around being smug. You've made a claim that you've yet to back up, which never looks any good. And you've picked a time to do it when I'm very much down on both smugness and witholding information. Stop being coy and spill already.

July 23, 2008

BEST POST I HAVE READ ALL GAME! THANK YOU!

Alright, I will let the others answer their questions, while I elaborate on mine.

I am a roleless partygoer called the Mad March Hare. My alignment is partygoer. Other than a red vial that stalled on me and a brief bit of mind control, I have had nothing special happen with me at all. I am like a lot of folks here trying to make sense of all this madness and, as a still relatively newbie among the legendary Vets of Mafia, I am trying to hold my own.

First thing I tried to do was build up an alliance with some friends of mine, and I mistook one of them for Lanny based on an earlier IM chat I had with my friend. Lanny's reply pretty much squared me away that I was wrong. Sure, my own friends could be mafia and looking for a way to stab at me, but the only way I figured that I would get any kind of info would be to fish out info and compare with the others. Moridin should confess that he did this also...and I suspected that the STAFFERS (Be'lal, Lanny, Taim) were also working together somehow based on their shared info. NOT MAFIA, just sharing info.

Ok, fast-forward through all the craziness to present day. The only person that I have outright accused as being mafia during this round has been Moggy, and that is because she conflicted with Semi. When I asked her if I should trust Moridin, her reply (which you read) was NOT TO TRUST HIM....yet when I told her that I was this "WHITE KNIGHT" looking for the QUEEN, she went running to Lanny about it.

I am not trying to cause confusion, I am merely trying to mine out whatever I can in this crazy game and post it for everyone to see. I ask questions and all I get is harassment instead of the question answered. People are saying that Im confusing them, but how?

Ok, so the coroner read on Osengar turned up that his alignment is not partygoer but TO THE QUEEN. This means that the mafia (or one of two mafias) is aligned to THE QUEEN. He was the Deuce of CLubs. Then, Mesaana the Role Thief shares the following info with me:

Alright so I took Dashive'a role and here's what I got.

If you die in the next day or night, then The Nine of Spades will die also.

So he was one of the cards?

AND THIS

So if Osan'gar was to the Queen, than that means one down and what five to go?

And I kinda figure that this:

Congratulations, you successfully tricked Graendal out of her role!

though disgiused as Graendal, you find yourself in a bit more trouble than you'd like, its seems her fate depends upon another;

During the next Day and nigth phase, if The Queen dies, you will die too!

So, both DASHIVA and GRAENDEL are aligned TO THE QUEEN. Add that to Semi's reveal about Osan'gar being the two of clubs and I think you got yourself a partial mafia. I figured that these are all characters then from Alice in Wonderland who answered to the Queen of Hearts. So, when Moggy's conflicting read on Semi, who I was sure was the coroner, came to me...I challenged her by faking the funk. Isn't this game about fishing for information? How else are we to play this game then?

On Lesbian Vampires and Other Creatures of the Knight:

Okay, you PM Moggy and she simply tells you that she's a vampire? And who her cohorts are? I'd take this a little more seriously if I thought for a second that anyone on an evil or cult-like or third-alignment style team would simply tell you what they were. You have given no context to this exchange. How did you prompt this reveal? How are you sure that it indicates evility?

Well, after the fake role reveal to her, I hopped on DM WHOSEONLINE and watched her exchange pms with Lanny and Be'lal. Sure, it could have been coincidence both of them sending and viewing messages at the same time from their mafia accounts, but not likely. I asked her about why she was exchanging private messages with Lanny and she replied with this:

We're discussing the fact that we're lovers...And vampires with Be'lal. ;) What about it? ;D

I am not sure this indicates "evility," that is why I posted the definition....for someone other than me to do some of the talking here. Quite possibly, Moggy, Lanny, and Be'lal are innocent until they are lynched, based on the definition. This quote came after the bit about getting Lanny to join us if we get Moridin.

So, I hope this helps. The jury is still out on Moggy, Lanny, and Moridin. But one thing is for sure. Dashiva and Graedel have to go...... so [glow=brown,2,300]GRAENDEL[/glow] No hard feelings, hun! :-*

July 23, 2008

Vampires. I am not a vampire. Yes, I have two night kills, but that is because I got the vigilante bottle (I can quote the PM if you would like) and my powers were doubled by the great power doubler *Smiles and waves at them*. I do not like how Rahvin has portrayed my PMs to be something other than they were. At the start of the game I PMed Loki asking about whether we could communicate outside of the game thread. He told me that we could fake quote PMs. This is what Rahvin is doing. About the Semirhage problem it is possible that I was sent a random find, I sent Loki a PM asking about this and he replied;

the finder role may be less then accurate

July 23, 2008

Moggy, you and I both know that I am not fake quoting. I am letting you off the hook by going after Graendel now instead of you. If you had a better explanation for the vampire comment instead of denying what you actually said, then I may have believed you.

But...my vote stands on Graendel. She is one that I KNOW is Mafia.

July 23, 2008

Come to think of it, why are you waiting until now to deny the vampire PM? It's been on the thread all this time and only now you are trying to accuse me of fake quoting.

July 23, 2008

We can tackle vampires in a bit: out of respect to Shadar's request and timezones, I'd like to throw something out there. Rahvi, your on right now, so by all means, explain to me how I'm supposed to take this:

Quote from: Myndrunner on July 20, 2008, 05:28:17 PM

Well, me and some pals have a plan.....

We can take Moridin out, but we need to widdle down some inactives first.

Dashiva is a good idea....and hopefully he should go down, leaving a vote of 8. If Balthamel gets MOD KILLED for inactivity, that would bring the needed votes to 7.

Then, on the following day, Aran'gar, who is the DOUBLE PERSON and my buddy, will double Mesaana's power. She will steal Moridin's role and one of the unknowns, the latter will give us info on that person. You should then target an unknown that Mesaana hasn't targeted. That plus the info we shall get from the Coroner Report should give us all the info we need.

Then, we vote Moridin: Moggy, Mesaana x 2, Aran'Gar, ******, and then I jump on at the end. We prolly will be able to pick up some others who are fed up with Moridin's ramblings, but it is important for me to rant and rave but seem like I am not with you guys until the very end, so that others will feel more comfortable joining up. That should give us at least 6 votes.

What are your thoughts? Oh, and you can trust Aran'gar....no secrets between me and her on this.

July 23, 2008

SH asked for an explanation so I gave it. :) Explanations are made to be truthful, not please the people who are involved in them.

However, your constant attempts to make me appear as the mafia and your lying make me suspect you. [glow=brown,2,300]Rahvin[/glow]

July 23, 2008

No problem, Moridin. That message is the one that came after this series:

No, just don't trust Moridin. Mesaana could be Alice... ::)

Ahhh...any other reads? What do you think DPR is up to? Is he just rounding up everyone for a slaughter?

Yes, I think he is. But we must not confront him in public. I could send around some PMs to those who can be trusted. You're too high profile for that... ;)

Also, as the dates confirm, this is all before that lying liar who lies bullshanks....and after any vouching had been done. ;)

July 23, 2008

So your my buddy, right? Just like this PM you sent in between the one I posted and the one you replied with:

« Sent to: Moridin-Mafia on: July 20, 2008, 07:38:35 PM »

Ok dude, here is the deal....no more games.

1) Someone who I trust completely has convinced me that you are a partygoer. She is someone already in your circle and has convinced me to play ball....but...

2)..more importantly, Moggy just screwed up. She contradicted herself in a series of PMs to me and also lied to me about a role of someone that I trust completely. She reeks of mafia right now. Up until this point, I have been listening to her advice not to trust you...but now I think she is the one leading us astray.

3) She is also claims to be linked to Lanny.

4) You prolly know by now that I talk to Semi as well, something that Lanny was trying to fish out of me publically. Well, she gave me the read on Osengar and it says his ALLIGNEMNT was TO THE QUEEN...not Partygoer. What do you think?

My game up to this point was to continue to put pressure on you and lanny to see if one of you slips up....but now, I think you are on the level. I have nothing else to offer you other than I will vote how you want me to vote. No more games bro....what do you need me to do....and please, leave Lanny out of this...I don't think she is on the up and up with you.

Somehow, I'm not feelin' the love here.....

July 23, 2008

First, here is the rest of the conversation.....

What did Loki's PM say about you getting double power?

further or (also known as last but not least) you feel extra powerful today, like someone is lending you some of theirs ...

today for this next day and night phase all your actions will be doubled (ie two nk chances, two votes (just post the two glowed names and they will be counted, you dont even have to say anything, or even do it in the same post, ill just take the last two names you glow), and two(or double) of anything else)

Ahh cool....so who should you find then?

I get Night Kills... ;D

and that means you get two votes

Indeed, so you better watch out! ;D :D I'm still trying to work out how Moridin won't die... ::)

Well, me and some pals have a plan.....

We can take Moridin out, but we need to widdle down some inactives first.

Dashiva is a good idea....and hopefully he should go down, leaving a vote of 8. If Balthamel gets MOD KILLED for inactivity, that would bring the needed votes to 7.

Then, on the following day, Aran'gar, who is the DOUBLE PERSON and my buddy, will double Mesaana's power. She will steal Moridin's role and one of the unknowns, the latter will give us info on that person. You should then target an unknown that Mesaana hasn't targeted. That plus the info we shall get from the Coroner Report should give us all the info we need.

Then, we vote Moridin: Moggy, Mesaana x 2, Aran'Gar, ******, and then I jump on at the end. We prolly will be able to pick up some others who are fed up with Moridin's ramblings, but it is important for me to rant and rave but seem like I am not with you guys until the very end, so that others will feel more comfortable joining up. That should give us at least 6 votes.

What are your thoughts? Oh, and you can trust Aran'gar....no secrets between me and her on this.

People Left

Us

Them

Unknown

Aran'gar

Balthamel

Be'lal -Vampire like me and Lanny, I could bring him around...

Dashiva

Demandred

Graendal

Lanfear My lover though...

Mesaana

Moghedien

Moridin

Rahvin

Sammael

Semirhage I would not advise voting to lynch her though..

Shadar Haran

Anyone I missed out?

Ok, that is the remaining part of the series. As you can see, Moggy is very much against Moridin at this point. Look who she lists as US and THEM....she even highlites that she is connected to Lanny; however, still lists her as THEM.

What comes next.....the LYING LIAR who LIES, where I turn to the guy who Moggy said not to trust....MORIDIN.....stay tuned, dear readers!

July 23, 2008

I just would also like to point out that the time differences in these posts are due to a difference in DM time and MyndJack time stamps. These PMs come mostly from PMs sent between me and moggy on www.MyndJack.com (JOIN TODAY! :D ) not on DM.

July 23, 2008

Yeah.

Is it just me, or are you closer to Moggy than anyone else? You seem to talk to her an awful lot off of the thread, and then fight an awful lot on the thread.* scratches head* Wait, haven't you also done that with......everybody else :P.

July 23, 2008

Especially since you just tried to lynch her.

July 23, 2008

Ok, here is where the romance turns sour....

Can you forward the PM from loki on your read of Semi? I have a theory and i might have just figured something out!

Semirhage has the role of: Tje Flying Pumpkin That Shoots Lasers Out Of It's Arse. When she is under threat of being eaten ( being lynched or night killed ) then she will 'shoot a laser' and kill a random attacker.

Her alignment is to Ali Baba and his Thieves.

are you gonna read mordeath...i think we have our Queen....also, jelly denied that she was a bomb character.....what are your thoughts?

Is Jelly Aran'gar? Yeah, I'll read Mordeth if the drink was the finder one...

I thought you said it was the finder drink.......Jelly is Semirhage

I'm pretty sure that this one is, but he hasn't stated it yet. :-\ She is a bomb, but she doesn't know it. Interesting...I do believe we can use this to our advantage. :D

{Rahvin starts smelling a rat right about here}

I'm pretty sure that this one is, but he hasn't stated it yet. :-\ She is a bomb, but she doesn't know it. Interesting...I do believe we can use this to our advantage. :D

Indeed.....so you get two night kills? Who should we whack after Dashiva?

I'll sleep on it. ;) By the way, today is the last day of my holidays so I probably won't be on as much for the next ten weeks or so... :-\ I should be on everyday still though. ;)

{Ok, so there is a conflict of info here....and based on the coroner's report....I decide to fish out some info....}

yeah, you test for the shawl. <--------about something off topic

Are you the Queen? I am the white knight.

Queen, white knight? Explain...

OK, now I am also chatting with others and I am really starting to feel suspicious of Moggy, especially since she was for whacking Moridin......so, I go to the source...

Hey dude,

Just a heads up, I sent you a PM on DM via Rahvin. I don't know what to think anymore, the person I have been listening to now seems like she's mafia. Anyways, I'll continue to be a raging hethan in public, but I'll follow whatever you want me to do.

I really don't know much other than I talk with Semi about the coroner stuff and Mesaana is starting to trust me too. I think shes on the up, but Moggy was the one I was listening to and she was telling me not to trust you. Someone vouched for you enough with me that I believe you.

Anyways, lemme know what you want me to do.

Next up.....a response to your question about going after MOGGY.....

July 23, 2008

Hmmm. Don't forget to throw in something about your romance with Graendal....

Myndrunner:hey, are you Graendel?

Myndrunner:in hatter mafia?

Myndrunner:

i thought that was GFav

Myndrunner:but now I am suspicious

anon:lol

anon:

maybe

Myndrunner:

well cool then that means we are on the same side

Myndrunner:

Im the Ace of Spades

anon:

really? cool, I thought you were something else that I dont rememberright now

Myndrunner:

Well, MEsaana stole your role tonight

Myndrunner:

Have you been able to talk with Dashiva at all?

anon:

mhmm.. lol no I havent talked to him

Myndrunner:

I am caling him Dash-inactive

Myndrunner:

he's killing us

anon:

good name. lots of people you can add that to

Myndrunner:

yeah no kidding

anon:

mhmm. so Moggy is trusting in you alot isnt she? You really think she's evil?

Myndrunner:

what are your thoughts on Semi the Coroner?

anon:

I'm thinking its a good role to have. And one that shouldnt be wasted

Myndrunner:

lol, if you really were Graendel then you would know the answer to that question

anon:

never saidIwas Graendal. lol. I said maybe I was

Myndrunner:

ahhhhh i see

Myndrunner:

well, this will be a very interesting vote

Myndrunner:

what about Moridin?

Myndrunner:

I still cant figure that cat out

anon:

Well, he cant really be invoulnerable,

Myndrunner sier:

his weakness I mean.....there has got to be a weakness

Myndrunner:

yeah, that is what I am saying

Myndrunner:

i tried to get mesaana to take his role

anon:

why didnt she?

Myndrunner:

when she does, I suspect he becomes invulnerable

Myndrunner:

get this

Myndrunner:

He told her not to

Myndrunner:

that is her reason

anon:

heheheheh thats a crappy reason

Myndrunner:

very weak sause

anon:

definately.

Myndrunner:

but according to her, she is a replacment player

Myndrunner sier:

she may not be as experienced at mafia as others

Myndrunner:

and...there is the possibility

Myndrunner:

that she is working with him too....

anon:

no,but still, its a pretty dumb move isnt it. and yeah thats the most obvious reason maybe.

Myndrunner:

but I have at least convinced her that I am a partygoer

anon:

lol so she wont steal your role?

Myndrunner:

nope, she thinks I am roleless

anon:

lol

Myndrunner:

because I show up as that until you and Dash are gone

Myndrunner:

and the Queen

Myndrunner:

I show up as having no role until you guys are gone, then my role is open

anon:

lol well by then you'll be pretty much confirmed innocent wont you

Myndrunner:

yeah....and that is why folks wont kill me no matter how much ruckus i cause

Myndrunner:

the folks who don't know who I really am prolly have read me in some way already

Myndrunner:

here is the thing...if I acted any less than I did in those other mafia games, then everyone would suspect I was up to something

Myndrunner:

id be the first to go, ya know?

anon:

yeah thats for sure. lol. you're stuck now!

ano:

well, sorta

Myndrunner:

yeah, but I can "see the light" so to speak, but I like pushing some peoples buttons

anon:

I have noticed. lol

anon:

some people let their buttons be pushed too. hahaha

Myndrunner:

lol yep

anon:

lol

Myndrunner:

Allright, I posted in the thread

Myndrunner:

lets see how everyone responds

Myndrunner:

http://forums.dragonmount.com/index.php/topic,32213.msg862799.html#msg862799

Myndrunner:

what do you think?

anon:

lol I think that she might get nervous. or not, who knows. who knows what in this game is true or not

Myndrunner:

true

anon:

it could be an easy way to off Alys (who's not abad player at all) and throw be'lal in with it. I mean, if Moggy was part of some trio, why would she be dumb enough to tell a player outside those three? I know she's fairly new at this game, but not that new

Myndrunner:

lol, yeah..

Myndrunner:

I did have a thought though

Myndrunner:

what if there are more than one mafia?

Myndrunner:

two mafia with partygoers in the middle?

anon:

maybe, its a possibility. i'm not really sure about any mafia tho

Myndrunner:

I just hope Dash doesn't get whacked for being inactive

anon:

there are alot of single night kills around

anon:

lol he might be

anon:

just hope he doesnt, but he better be back soon

Myndrunner:

well, none of us have NK abilities unless we drink those postions

Myndrunner:

lol, well if he goes down while Mesaana has his role

Myndrunner:

im ok

anon:

no, but the potions obviously play a big part here

Myndrunner:

i think that there is another mafia

Myndrunner:

i mean, our alligment is to the queen

Myndrunner:

LIKE A CHESS BOARD!

anon:

ooh chess

Myndrunner:

two teams

Myndrunner:

our alignment is to the queen, right?

anon:

hmm. yeah

Myndrunner:

would partygoers be pawns then?

anon:

htey might be. but what does the vials have to do with the players then? and who's the remaining pieces? and who's the Kings?

Myndrunner:

Moridin is the Dragon Reborn

Myndrunner:

that is why he cant die

Myndrunner:

but that doesn't make him a King does it?

July 23, 2008

Ok, so now I try faking the funk a bit to see what she does...

so....what if I told you that I know you are the Queen?

I would ask you to tell me how and what this means... ;D

Well, lets say I got my coroner read back on Osengar.......and that matched up with some info that someone i completely trust gave me. The only missing link was who the Queen was until something you said earlier rang a bell. I did some snooping around and I don't think you are a PARTY GOER.

Does the term, OFF WITH THEIR HEADS come to mind? ;) Don't worry, I still don't want DPR and LANNY to win even if they are partygoers.

What did I say earlier that rang a bell? Who/what is the Queen? the one from alice in wonderland?

Yep....if you are the Queen, then we are on the same team. Are we? If so, than we need to change our strategy about Mesaana and Aran'gar.

I might not be the queen..How are we going to change the plan then? ;)

Well....I am the White Knight now. And according to Loki, I must protect the Queen. I am also limited on my posts now (rotten deal that, I suspect cause of my rants). If the Queen is attacked, then I die instead.

My alignmet is now TO THE QUEEN instead of PARTY GOER.

I do believe I could use this to my advantage... :P Anyway, I have to get off the computer for a bit so...cheerios!! :D

THIS IS A LIE HERE BECAUSE SHE NO SOONER LOGGED IN ON DM AS MOGGY-MAFIA and BEGAN EXCHANGING PMS with LANNY AND BE'LAL!!!! How do I know? DM WHOSEONLINE!

NEXT: Send a PM to MOGGY, and LANNY POSTS IT! ;D .... AND don't worry, GRAENDEL is comming right up!! GOTTA save the best for last!

July 23, 2008

{another side note, that thing about the chess board may actually be true....also, didn't you get that copied MSN from me through someone else?}

July 23, 2008

Dude, you are so full of $#&%. LMAO

You cross everyone you pretend to be friends with. You accuse everyone of being mafia. You have sent every player in the game down a wild goose chase of one sort or another.

But, by all means, continue. You've already posted more than enough to condemn yourself, but I'm all for running up the score. heh

July 23, 2008

Lanfear-Mafia 05:15:23 AM Sending a message.

Be'lal-Mafia 05:15:17 AM Sending a message.

Interesting, what do you suppose they have to talk about?

We're discussing the fact that we're lovers...And vampires with Be'lal. ;) What about it? ;D

HA! I knew it!

Moghedien-Mafia 05:19:50 AM Sending a message.

Lanfear-Mafia 05:19:26 AM Sending a message.

Of which LANNY posts her big WTF moment in the thread. At this point, the battle is between me/Semi versus Lanny/Moggy. If you read my post, I am no longer including Moridin in any of that. I am stating that Lanny needs to pick sides and explain why she would be in league with one who is plotting Mordin's death. Make sense?

So, imagine my surprise when MORIDIN comes running into the fray with his bucket of water. Why?

Now, about Graendel. I sent that to Morisin this evening through a mutual friend of ours, right Moridin? I am sure she can confirm this if she could post right now. And like you all can see back earlier today I mentioned the ACE of SPADES, yet another character that would fit the whole QUEEN of HEARTS deal.....but there is no ACE of SPADES in ALICE in WONDERLAND, just like I made up the White Knight! This is another fishing trip done by yours truly, which confirms what Mesaana had shown me....Graendel is Mafia.

Hence my vote this evening is for Graendel, not Moggy or anyone else.

July 23, 2008

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, Moridin, but I am an innocent party goer who did some fishing. Honestly, I don't understand why you are coming at me guns blazing like this when I stopped coming after you. Two things stopped me. 1) a vouch and 2) Moggy's betrayal.

So, you tell me, Moridin...why are you still pressing me when you should be pressing Lanny and Moggy?

July 23, 2008

Dude, you are so full of $#&%. LMAO

You cross everyone you pretend to be friends with. You accuse everyone of being mafia. You have sent every player in the game down a wild goose chase of one sort or another.

But, by all means, continue. You've already posted more than enough to condemn yourself, but I'm all for running up the score. heh

Ok, explain how I am sending who on what wild goose chase? And dude....so I was trying to kill you, THIS IS MAFIA...and up until recently, I was convinced you were it. What else would explain your overreactions to my posts?

July 23, 2008

Here's the bottom line: I'm going after you because you are a proven liar. More than any other player, and by your own admission, you lie. You lie when you fish, you've lied to me in PM's, and you've lied to many, many others.

I don't know Lanny or Moggy's alignments. I don't even know what the mafia are called in this game. I don't know what's going to happen next or who is going to start the next skirmish.

But I do know that if we don't get rid of you, we won't be able to see anything clearly at all.

And, being a proven liar and all, I don't think that you getting lynched will hurt the party-goers one little bit.

For the love of all that ever made sense, and in an effort to bring sanity to this game: [glow=brown,2,300]RAHVIN![/glow]

July 23, 2008

You are being naive here, Moridin...especially for a vet. It's almost like you wanted to get me so bad in order to make sense of this game that you are still trying to force the issue here. Believe me, I understand. Loki is probably having himself a big laugh at our expense.

But the fact of the matter is this. I only lied twice in attempts to gain information from two people, Moggy when she started sounding fishy, and Graendel, to confirm what I already knew. Where have I lied to you in PMs? Show me, show us all.

I have remained true to the three people who would listen to me. I also remained true to Moggy until she her betrayal. Twice I have extended my hand to you, only to get nothing in return. Unlike most of these inactives, I have been one of the few trying to make sense of this whole thing. I am the one who caught the Rand al'Thor message in Loki's story.

Do us all a favor, Moridin. Vote Graendel, not me. If you lynch me, you lynch an innocent party goer. If you lynch Graendel, you lynch a non-innocent, whose alignemnt is TO THE QUEEN. If I am wrong about Graendel and the coroner shows up with a party goer read, then lynch me next. I won't fight it. But don't lynch me because your antagonistic approach to info is failing with me.

I don't understand. You KNOW I am a party goer....and you still vote me? That doesn't make any sense.

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