Mad Hatter Mafia Tea Party - GAME OVER-Page 94

[Lanfear-Mafia]

Actually, that's one of the reasons I trust Moridin. Those of you who would suggest why an evil could not die, please offer explainations as to why it would make sense.

 

For me, I am voting secretly.

[Lanfear-Mafia]

9 to lynch; lynch would take place if it looks like it's going through, modkill if it doesn't....

deadline rolled around and we had...

8: lanny, rahvin, be'lal, demmy, mori, sammy, dashiva, moggy

 

so again. i ask loki, why did we suffer the modkill rather than the lynch when we were one short??

 

players: i ask you- if you didn't like the plan i suggested (which was win/win), why did you not offer something else rather than letting it go to what would have been a roll of the die?? ?? letting it go to a roll of the die would have been the worst scenario, imo.

 

and mesaana is the role thief unless i miss my guess. just thought i would put that out there.

[Demandred-Mafia]

I didn't get time to vote the second time, but then I was tucked up in bed.

 

And I'm with Lanfear, why weren't we allowed the lynch on Aginor. Is it becasue he was modkilled that the others don't die. If that is the case then maybe we should lynch the other person in that triangle and then the thief will die. Though I guess that may depend on who the third one is.

 

I will only be around for less than 24 hours more and thenI'm away till Monday night/Tuesday morning next week. I don't know if I will have any internet access from the hotel, but I may not get time even if there is.

[Lanfear-Mafia]

Is it becasue he was modkilled that the others don't die. If that is the case then maybe we should lynch the other person in that triangle and then the thief will die.

 

that's not how it works. think more like dominos lined into a circle. one affects the one in front, but not the one in back.

[Osangar-Mafia]

Actually, that's one of the reasons I trust Moridin. Those of you who would suggest why an evil could not die, please offer explainations as to why it would make sense.

 

For me, I am voting secretly.

 

You speak sense Lanfear, and I agree.

 

Moridin, if I get any vials, or information, I will PM you with the details.  It would make zero sense for you to be evil, so I'm on board with you being innocent.

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

Something very ISHY is going on and I don't mean Ishamael!  I'm keeping my vote for [glow=red,2,300]Moridin[/glow] and I suggest everyone do the same.  Osan'gar, answer me this question and I will believe that you are not under some kind of mind control from Lanny...

 

....where did you attend that Barber Shop Quartet?

 

If you can answer this freely, then I know you are legit....if not, then I know you are under mind control like I was earlier in the game.

[Osangar-Mafia]

....Skokie, Illinois.  I don't know why I even answered that - my post wasn't weird or anything - just simply stating a likely scenario.  It makes me think that Lanfear is probably innocent as well, but who knows.  :-\

 

I am not under mind control, Rahvin.  Regardless of whether Lanfear is evil or not, think about Moridin's situation.  Why in the world would he be evil if he can't die?  It would be an auto-win for the evils.  That makes no sense to me.  If there is a glaring hole in this logic, then please let me know, because it escapes me.

 

This means that Moridin can more or less be trusted.  Either way, moving the game forward is a good idea.  I'm on board with that.

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

Well, I am still not even sure that it is a matter of good or evil, rather teams based on our characters from the books.  Also, in a link situation, aren't at least one of the linked players usually mafia?

 

So, who are you two voting for?  Lanny, why would claim to want to move the game forward then hide your vote?

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

Please ignore that glaring grammar mistake above.....

 

......and all your bases are belong to us!

[Lanfear-Mafia]

Osan'gar, answer me this question and I will believe that you are not under some kind of mind control from Lanny...

 

if lanny has mind control, that's news to her. it would be nice to control something such as that though. i could think of a million uses for an innocent to revel in a role like that.

 

Lanny, why would claim to want to move the game forward then hide your vote?

because i know you can't trust me until loki gives more information. you can't trust me and i don't have enough time. and because my vote is based on a feeling rather than something provable.

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

Osan'gar, answer me this question and I will believe that you are not under some kind of mind control from Lanny...

 

if lanny has mind control, that's news to her. it would be nice to control something such as that though. i could think of a million uses for an innocent to revel in a role like that.

 

Its ok, OG just proved he is speaking of his own volition, but like it says in the MAFIA SCUM report, sometimes in a triangle, the existence of one protects the other. In this case, it seems that you are suggesting that Aginor had some kind of hold on you and since Aginor didn't vote Moridin when he was lynched and he didn't die....I think he is your third partner. 

 

Did your coroner read turn up any information on Aginor's alignment?

 

Lanny, why would claim to want to move the game forward then hide your vote?

because i know you can't trust me until loki gives more information. you can't trust me and i don't have enough time. and because my vote is based on a feeling rather than something provable.

 

What? That makes no sense at all.  Why hide your vote now?  What does Loki need to answer for you? 

[Guest Moridin-Mafia]

 

::)  *facepalms*

[Demandred-Mafia]

Thanks Lannie, thats a shame it's like that.

 

Now I'm a bit confused bacuse the deadline weent over 12 hours ago, so can we vote or not. I think I will put one in, as the mod hasn't shown up yet, it may or may not count.

 

Well, I am still not even sure that it is a matter of good or evil, rather teams based on our characters from the books.  Also, in a link situation, aren't at least one of the linked players usually mafia?

 

 

I thought that was resolved by the information Lannie recieved about Halima, or did I read that wrong. :-\

[Belal-Mafia]

Yeah, can we still vote? I hope Loki confirms this soon.

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

Dread Moridin Roberts, why the facepalm? Was it something I said.....or perhaps Lanny?  ::)

 

Demandred, according to the read, Halima was not mafia per se but a SOLO WIN character, kinda like a serial killer in some mafia games.  Everyone else had been INNOCENT, including Taim.  There is the theory that still remains that there are no MAFIA characters and that we are all in this for ourselves, or perhaps on teams. 

 

I find it fishy that with so little info to go on, and Loki's incessant PAFO, that anyone would be so reluctant to share information.....unless they have something to hide.  Lanny? Why do you post so much to say so little?

 

The cheerleader for sharing information is hiding info?  What is all that about?

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

because i know you can't trust me until loki gives more information. you can't trust me and i don't have enough time. and because my vote is based on a feeling rather than something provable.

 

I am sorry, but am I the only one that is just plain BAFFLED by this statement?  What is she really saying here?  Somehow Aginor's death changed the game, but how?  And how come Aginor was Mod Killed for inactivity when there are at least 3 other players who I would say are just as inactive.

 

Master Hatter, we need more than a PAFO here......please give us SOMETHING!

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

Aginor Has been modkilled

 

All of the votes on Aginor have been reset to their owners. You may attempt a lynch in the remaining time if you wish. in light of the modkill you will have till 3:00AM BST Wednesday (about 3 hours 39 minutes)

 

Hatter, was Aginor MOD KILLED for inactivity or for something else? 

[Lanfear-Mafia]

*sighs at rahvin* no, moridin isn't my partner. he is merely someone i have grown to trust.

 

aginor had no hold on me other than ones pertaining to the heart that i cannot explicitly state. no hold. just one death in place of another. moridin's *facepalm* echoes my current feeling about how much you are missing here...

 

I haven't been getting a response from the coroner. why don't you ask? i know you speak to him/her.

 

What? That makes no sense at all.  Why hide your vote now?  What does Loki need to answer for you? 

 

the fact that loki seemingly changed things from how they should have been should make that make sense. things did NOT play how they were supposed to. we need to know why the role didn't work and what came of it. i asked loki that with no response as of yet.

 

with less than a full day, there was no time to work a new plan. don't know how that doesn't make sense either....

 

after all, we aren't all missing that there is no way that moridin could be evil unless the plan was for us to all lose from the start.

 

Halima was not mafia per se but a SOLO WIN character, kinda like a serial killer in some mafia games.

how many solo wins are usually in a game?? one? there have been at least two.

 

There is the theory that still remains that there are no MAFIA characters and that we are all in this for ourselves, or perhaps on teams. 

the indications? the evidence?

 

Hatter, was Aginor MOD KILLED for inactivity or for something else?

refer to the post before that. loki said it would be for inactivity if i remember correctly.

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

I can talk like Lanfear too!  Watch!

The clue is obviously right in front of you and so clear that I am not even going to say it, and I trust Moridin for reasons I cannot tell you.  Moridin is probably face palming because it is so obvious the reasons for everything and what is happening, I can't even begin to tell you.  *sigh* You are missing everything!

 

You should all tell me what you know because it is important to share evidence.  I will keep my reasons for what I say and do a secret.  The pearl is in the river, and the celery stalks at midnight.  One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish and skip to the loo. 

 

Wow, that was fun.....ok, now Lanny....try again, but this time use English, please?

 

1) What makes you trust Moridin?

 

2) Why would Loki even bother with our character names if they weren't significant somehow?

 

3) How does Moridin being immune to lynching make him innocent when we do not know why he was immune to that lynch?

 

4) Do we know for sure that Moridin is immune to NIGHT KILLS?

[Rita Skeeter]

OMG... Ravi... What she says makes sense... think about would ya... try and understand. PLEASE!!

 

Ok so i'm going to vote....

 

 

[Lanfear-Mafia]

Again, we could waste our time trying to kill him over and over again, but i sincerely believe that mori is telling the truth. and that it would be a waste of time.

 

if you don't believe and want others to not believe, harassing me isn't going to help. you would need to back up that disbelief with something.

 

the roles, from what i can tell, are what dictated the story book characters. if you want to find out more about your role, you could try looking up your character. that is all i can tell you because i dont' really know. i didn't make up or help work out the game mechanics.

 

why i believe mori has alot to do with his inability to die. and some to do with other things about him. his willingness to help me test certain players in certain ways that would out him if he was untrustworthy is merely one. at this point, he is the only player that has been clever enough to offer something concrete to me. thus, he is the only one i currently fully trust.

 

i voted someone i believe has a role that... could vastly change the game.

 

rahvin, dear, did you talk to your coroner buddy?

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

Or, he's been playing you like Guitar Hero all along and is about to get the high score. 

 

At this point, anyone who is not clearly mafia, should be sharing information here...AND be clear about it. Lanny, you are info hogging and that suggests that you have something to hide.  Moridin has proven nothing but trying to be in bed with everyone, by sending us all PMs about how he is here to "help." 

 

So, lemme ask these questions again....in LANFEAR speak....

 

 

1) Why do you "sincerely believe that Moridin is telling the truth" and what is he telling the truth about?

 

2) Why would Loki even bother with our character names if they weren't significant somehow?

 

3) How does Moridin being immune to lynching make him innocent when we do not know why he was immune to that lynch?

 

4) Do we know for sure that Moridin is immune to NIGHT KILLS?

 

And I am not the one who has been professing to know a coroner.....read your own Posts, will ya?

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

Moridin has proven nothing but trying to be in bed with everyone, by sending us all PMs about how he is here to "help." 

 

He hasn't tried to 'help' me... :'( ;)

 

2) Why would Loki even bother with our character names if they weren't significant somehow?

 

I think they do mean something, but I'm not sure what... ::)

[Guest Moridin-Mafia]

 

Wow. Here's the deal. If everybody knows who I am, and you know how I play, then I don't think it is too much to ask for you to seriously consider that I'm telling the truth. My claim would be too stupid to bluff.

 

Of course, if I was me, I'd want proof.

 

So lynch me. Then nightkill me. No hard feelings - it will cost you another day, but it's the only proof.

 

Here:[glow=red,2,300] Moridin [/glow] If Loki wants, he can confirm that I sent this to him as well.

 

Getting the mafia to nightkill me is a bit beyond my powers, but by all means, test me out.

 

In the mean time, consider what this means to the game: the mafia - and I feel good about there being a mafia - have to have at least one player with some serious mojo to balance this out.

 

Our best chance is to put our heads together and really puzzle this thing out. So, I think we should trust one another and start sharing notes. I've already outlined my plan.

 

I'll submit that Lanny and myself have shared everything in our power to share, even at the risk of our lives. Rahvin, you have been loud, and made a lot of accusations, and complained, but you have yet to contribute to help us and so far you are only a giant distraction that is hurting us by agitating everybody and keeping them from trusting one another. Sorry bro, tough love and all....

 

I could go on and on, but I'd rather see if people are down with this plan or if I'm just typing for no reason.... :P

[Lanfear-Mafia]

Lanny, you are info hogging and that suggests that you have something to hide.  

 

what info would you have me share? ask specifically so i don't get it wrong.

 

and you know, you have been as well, but we'll get to that point later.

 

Why do you "sincerely believe that Moridin is telling the truth" and what is he telling the truth about?

 

i am ignoring this question from here on. you only seem to want to bully people. if you learn to play nice, you could turn out to be an excellent player who gets people to talk.

 

Why would Loki even bother with our character names if they weren't significant somehow?

 

i explained how i think they are significant. i can't further answer your question.

 

Do we know for sure that Moridin is immune to NIGHT KILLS?

 

vig hit him and see... or rather, that could be get the mafia to hit him and see.

 

And I am not the one who has been professing to know a coroner.....

 

actually, i find that lack disturbing considering your points against me.

 

others have tattled on you, they've also asked if i thought your claims to know the coroner and to have a group working together to be legit.

 

so why don't you share what you know?? why didn't you say you had a clue instead of trying to set me up to look bad?