Game Over - Insane Mafia Game. Page 94

[Ishamael-Mafia]

 

I agree with Mesaana on this one. We can wait to see if Barm has anything to say, but a few things Semi says do not make sense to me, or the past rules. And Boyo is going to wash her mouth out with soap!

[Lanfear-Mafia]

I know this is a nuthouse, and things don't always make sense in a nuthouse, but I'm going to wait and see if we get clarification on a few things before I vote again.

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

I'd typed this before Lanfear's post, but I'll post it anyways:

 

The nuthouse has started to act to its name... ;)

[Aginor-Mafia]

Wait, so, if Semi knows that roles won't be revealed, just the alignment, couldn't she be innocent, just not the healer?

 

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

And why wouldn't it, Mesaana?  ;)

[Asmodean-Mafia]

Maybe it would be prudent to wait for everyone to hear about the healer claim. Then if someone else does happen to claim a healer role also, we know that (unless barm is playing tricks with ús) one is a false claim - and has about 95% of one or other claimants being evil, and about 66.6% that it is Semirhage (I made those up but it's just something to give you an idea). However this is only if there is another healer claim, so please can we make sure Semirhage is not lynched before then at the very least.

 

Also, though others may have recently said this, and I'm going off past game role attributes here:- the healer has been an exclusively night action only role, and the 'action' is the protection of the person named, and the healer is usually capable of self healing. Being able to stop a lynch would be a completely different role. Further, as far as I can tell Semirhage never alluded to being able to stop a lynch, if indeed that is possible, but to her night action, in that she was sending it early.

 

And I swear (don't worry yourself Sboyd, not literally) that if any one has just posted something that make all of this just a repetition..well I will have to stab you with a flute or something. >:(

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

Semi, it didn't tke much working out who you were from the start, sorry but I had you sussed.

 

Not a very good move saying that you had spoken to Barmy and he said there would be no role reveals on death just alignments. You could so easily thn have concocted this up knowing we would never find out whether or not you were, unless the real healer came forward, but even then we would not know who to beleive and the evils would get the ID of the healer.

 

And we were not to know you were the healer so it wasn't a good way to come in saying that we were morons, if we all knew who had what roles we would get this game finished quickly ::)

 

For the moment I'm holding off voting for you because you may be telling the truth, and if you are then you really should have thought about how you say things.

 

Back to buisness

 

Is it time yet Messie babes :-*

 

[Asmodean-Mafia]

messaana, what part of this are you not getting? I can heal myself during the night, they can't kill me during the night unless they can overide my heal some how. so *no* they can't kill your "real healer" (me) tonight because I will be healign myself and in fact have already turned in my night action to barm

 

You are either evil, or healer.

 

If you're healer, you protect yourself, nothing happens

 

If you're evil, and the real healer shows up, you'll know who to kill tonight.

 

I think I know who you are, and don't really believe you don't get this. I'm véry véry tempted to believe the bandwagon got an evil this time. I'm gonna wait for Barm for the info Ishy asked, but if it doesn't satisfy me, you got my vote.

 

Btw: REAL HEALER, IF YOU'RE NOT SEMIRHAGE, DO NOT REVEAL!!!

 

...OK, this has confused me just a little. In the event Semirhage is not the healer;

If the healer does reveal, they can also heal themselves. Also if the healer reveals Semirhage is quite probably evil

 

now under your scenario -

The healer does not reveal. Semirhage masquerades as the fake healer for a little while. The real healer sits like a lemon.

 

Another point why would an evil reveal as a healer?

 

I'm not trying to take sides here just state the facts.

[Guest Semirhage-Mafia]

we don't know the roles but if there is a symp then likely he/she will reveal as the healer to get me lynched

 

and there is a full proof way to test what i've said about the game if barm doesn't show. Kill me, you'll find out I'm innocent. And as an innocent I'm telling you *I am the healer*

 

oh and the original reason i said I'm goin to work "soon" is because I didn't want to name the time or naeann would know who I am

 

I leave for work in 1 hour 15 minutes from now. and will not be back till approx 10 hours from now

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

Wait, so, if Semi knows that roles won't be revealed, just the alignment, couldn't she be innocent, just not the healer?

 

 

Good question.

 

Let's see the possibilities from Semi's PoV:

 

1) she's evil: it makes perfect sense to say she's got a good role to save her own -you know what-, and urge the real healer to uncover, so he/she can be lynched tonight. Yes, Asmo, not lynched yet, but the evils know who it is.

 

2) she's healer: she's honest. But, as I stated previously, I think I know who Semi is, and I don't believe that person does not get my previous reasonings for no healer-reveal.

 

3) she's other-roled: why would she not simply declare her real role?

 

4) she's roleless innocent: here it gets kinky, but it is still possible: she wants to protect the real healer, by letting the evils think the healer is dead. The problem is the same as the one under number 2)

 

I still think #1 most probable. But I'm waiting for Barmy to answer a question:

Are there normal roles, or is it a real nuthouse? Both for the side of the evil, and for the side of the 'light'?

 

Rahvin, you're such a smart boy!!! You just forgot I already am pregnant, so we won't have to make the baby yet. I'm waiting for you!!!!

 

I'm gonna post the response to Semi next

[Guest Sammael-Mafia]

Barm has not and will never list the roles Ishy, but in a msn convo with him when the characters were assigned I told him he forgot to list the roles and then he told me that this is be a non-role reveal on death. But that we *would* have alignment reveals on death (I tried to get him to post this in the thread instead of me saying it because now naeann knows who I am since I told her about this already)

 

I thought we weren't supposed to talk to eachother about the game outside the game thread unless you are evil, isn't that right?

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

we don't know the roles but if there is a symp then likely he/she will reveal as the healer to get me lynched

 

and there is a full proof way to test what i've said about the game if barm doesn't show. Kill me, you'll find out I'm innocent. And as an innocent I'm telling you *I am the healer*

 

Assuming you're innocent. Symp counter-claims. What profit would he/she see in it? they're both good, if only the alignment shows up. We'ld never know for sure who was the real healer.

 

What if you're symp yourself? the same thing counts. And we'ld indeed find out you're innocent. And the rest fits just as nicely. Interesting.

[Guest Semirhage-Mafia]

Naeann is my friend, why else do you think i avoided posting my work schedule? its because she knows it

 

I talk to her all the time on msn, and btw the "discussion" you speak of was me pretty much going "omg barm's not revealing roles on death!" her saying "no way! me saying "yes way!" :P

 

this thread wasn't even up at the time, and do you honestly expect me to trust naeann? come come we are much to similar in that regard. We both know perfectly well not to trust each other when these games are involved and we both know otherwise not to discuss them

 

though I expect that I royally screwed myself over when i said that and none of u will believe me till I'm dead, i know after you catching that I wouldn't

[Guest Semirhage-Mafia]

we don't know the roles but if there is a symp then likely he/she will reveal as the healer to get me lynched

 

and there is a full proof way to test what i've said about the game if barm doesn't show. Kill me, you'll find out I'm innocent. And as an innocent I'm telling you *I am the healer*

 

Assuming you're innocent. Symp counter-claims. What profit would he/she see in it? they're both good, if only the alignment shows up. We'ld never know for sure who was the real healer.

 

What if you're symp yourself? the same thing counts. And we'ld indeed find out you're innocent. And the rest fits just as nicely. Interesting.

 

"screwed if you do, screwed if you don't"

 

and thats actually a good question to barm

 

barm, if there are symps in this game, will they be shown as innocent or evil upon their death?

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

The reason why it maynot be a good reason for the real Healer to come forward is that if you are evil you out them, and yes they can save themselves, but what happens when the finder comes along, what does the healer do then because at the end it we could end up losing the Healer as well as the finder.

 

If you are the healer the same applies.

 

We need to know if there is a role reveal on death or not, because that kind of information should be given to all not just one person.

 

Messie my sweet, I was just hoping to the practice of ;)

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

Symps are always shown as innocents.

At least in my (on- and offline) experience, they do :)

 

And I know Rahvin. I'm sitting on the bed, waiting for you to appear.

[Guest Semirhage-Mafia]

and barm, can you please list what roles have been given out in this game?

 

this is what i said some pages far back, and  was fishing for barm to reveal that information to all of us

 

i think the reason he didn't tell anyone is he wanted it to be a surprise

 

you'll note that its the same question I asked him before :P

[Guest Sammael-Mafia]

Naeann is my friend, why else do you think i avoided posting my work schedule? its because she knows it

 

I talk to her all the time on msn, and btw the "discussion" you speak of was me pretty much going "omg barm's not revealing roles on death!" her saying "no way! me saying "yes way!" :P

 

this thread wasn't even up at the time, and do you honestly expect me to trust naeann? come come we are much to similar in that regard. We both know perfectly well not to trust each other when these games are involved and we both know otherwise not to discuss them

 

though I expect that I royally screwed myself over when i said that and none of u will believe me till I'm dead, i know after you catching that I wouldn't

 

You just contradicted yourself from you post from earlier...

 

but in a msn convo with him when the characters were assigned I told him he forgot to list the roles and then he told me that this is be a non-role reveal on death. But that we *would* have alignment reveals on death (I tried to get him to post this in the thread instead of me saying it because now naeann knows who I am since I told her about this already)

 

 

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

This is interesting...

[Ishamael-Mafia]

Backing up a few posts to Asmodean's question as to whether a healer can heal themselves: it depends on the mod and the game. I have seen it played both ways (can heal self, can't heal self).  If a true healer exists, they should not reveal as the evil team is using this as a ploy to hit them first, a good technique (it could have been agreed on early on that if an evil looked liked they were about to be lynched, and eight votes would look that way, they should reveal as healer to at least least draw the real healer out. Why the healer? Because so many false finder claims have been made that alarms would go off first thing.

 

Now Semi, you take a chance to bring up a symp out of nowhere, further confussing the matter and a great way to provide cover for a false claim. Another great technique, just as asking people to kill you is. You said Naeann knew who you were already, but now you say you were tryint to prevent that.

 

It looks like you are trying to hard to cover what you said before and you dig yourself in deeper. What do you say to this?

 

 

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

so Semi, did you speak to Naeann about it before or after the game was started.

 

I don't know why I thought symps came up with evil alignment, but I could be wrong. can't remember.

 

*Appears a Messies bed* ;D

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

Semi: simple question: who told you when, how and where only allignment is shown upon death?

 

And what has Naeann got to do with this?

 

And now a copy from Ishy, as I searched for something much the same to say:

It looks like you are trying to hard to cover what you said before and you dig yourself in deeper. What do you say to this?

 

 

EDIT/ forgot the When

[Aginor-Mafia]

Yeah, it looks like your alibi is changing every time you post...

My vote sticks.

 

And, I'm a bit of noobish, what's a symp?

 

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

a symp is an innocent who wants the evils to win.

 

And I'll vote [glow=red,2,300]Semirhage[/glow]. Just because I'll forget if I don't do it now.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Hmmm....I don't know what to think.  I've been in these situations before, where I said the wrong thing but was telling the truth.  Don't know if that's what's happening here, but I'm waiting to see how Semi answers these accusations.