Game Over - Insane Mafia Game. Page 94

[Asmodean-Mafia]

...Sorry can you really not see how contrived to fit your view that assumption is, and in the end all it actually comes down to is your word against his. And secondly, twisting my words like that is the kind of thing that could really piss me off. Yes the 'even role-blocker could be evil. And so could you. You both could. Or it could be one or the other. Hence the existence of an even role-blocker is irrelevant except for confirming that that part of your story is true. Which (if you didn't get this implied bit) does not necessarily mean the rest of what you say is true.

Also just because they haven revealed does not to my mind indicate that they  want to so they can add to the pool for night kill candidate, think about it, of the still unrevealed innocents, if Barm has given us all roles then odds one there are some bulletproofs out there, so why are they going to risk it when they have this rich sea of revealed roleblockers, finder/cops and so on, it's like free money in the street. Also another addenum to my previous post, I believe there is proof that the evils have roles, in what happened today with the day kill, (or delayed action night kill) as I can not see that any innocent would unleash a role  (as it seems to be) like that.

 

However notice I'm not voting either way yet, as I also think Baltamel is very suspicious, it's just your leaving so many gaps so that if your were evil and Baltamel turns out innocent you have so many loopholes to just go, "Oh I didn't realise but so and so..."

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Asmo, I semi-agree with you.

 

If what you're saying is fact, then there could be an evil finder/healer.  And I seriously doubt that Barm would do that to us.  I do agree, however, that the evils either have roles, or extra abilities, the later of which I believe more likely.

 

Where exactly did Mesaana twist your words?  I'm curious, because I just don't see it.  Maybe if you point it out it would help me.  Thanks.

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

in what happened today with the day kill, (or delayed action night kill) as I can not see that any innocent would unleash a role  (as it seems to be) like that.

 

It cannot have been a delayed action night kill. All night actions were blocked. Any true finder who tried to finder would know that at least his/her role was blocked. Any evil who tried to kill would know the same. Any evil who never even got to it would know the same. Any assassin, etc. Night ended as soon as I sent my action in and no roles could get around it. I asked Barm 3 different ways to be certain. Not that it saved us the dead...

 

It was a role that functions in the day, whatever else it was.

 

/irritation.

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

Like you probably have noticed during this game (and previous ones), I always give all posibilities. If you see that as 'preparing my way out'??? Not only those positive to me. If you see that as 'preparing my way out'??? I think it's more important that the innocent team wins, than that I survive. But, with 2 nightkills a night, and someone who is 99% sure evil, I'm very sorry for all you guys. But if you continue playing like this, the evil team is gonna laugh. A lot.

 

As to the 2 deads: it was a DAY action. Don't ask me how that's possible, I have no idea. I just know we've got a 99% evil and a lot of you are unwilling to lynch him.

[Asmodean-Mafia]

I have to dissagree Moghedien, as it happened to soon for what seems to have happened, the player would have to have been around at the time precise time, and I doubt that Lanfear or Be'lal just up and commited suicide like that, what I am suggesting is that, if we are to take you at your word :P, that all night actions were blocked then this would have evaded because it was to happen in the day, i.e. it was not an action at night, but a trap, and so was not  blocked as an action. At least that's my theory.

[Asmodean-Mafia]

I think I begin to understand your reasoning for not wanting to reveal.

 

I just wonder: why am I still the only one to have voted Balthamel? He says he knows he got blocked, I know I blocked someone else, so, unless there are multiple roleblockers (not be'lal - he was blocked by me, so couldn't block; graendal & lanfear could have been; otherwise still alive); Balthamel is evil.

 

There's one other person who knows I'm not lying: the even-night roleblocker. I just hope he/she is still alive, and can confirm my innocence. Like I said: how else could I know roleblocking is split between odd and even nights?

Your accusation mostly based on the fact that Baltamel's blocker has not revealed, could it be they as beyond the veil, as you hope yours is not?

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Asmo, please answer my last post.  Please.  I really hate being ignored.

[Balthamel-Mafia]

How do you explain the fact that right after night one, I declared that the role blocker, (

I assumed there was only one) had targetted an innocent. That only makes sense if I was RBed myself.

 

Now I may of been RBed by someone else, or it may of been an inherit part of Be'lal's role, but I believe that Messana may be scum lieing to try and get a cop/doc lynched so that the town kills its most valuable role and lets the mafia have another swing at us innocents.

 

That would be a large gain for the death of one mafia: Messana, not voting yet will evaluate in the morning...

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

First, to the trap: I imagined a trap that made it necesseray for 2 people to die each night. But Be'lal (not Semi, the potential trapped) posted first that night.

 

Secondly: the reason I hope the even-nights role-blocker reveals is very simple: it would make me a confirmed innocent (though you'll probably just neglect it, just like you do the Balthamel-things). The only other way (a night-kill) is NOT GOOD, because, if there's 4 evils and 2 kills/night, we've only got two nights left for an evil lynch. Maybe I haven't been clear enough, but the scum has almost won.

 

Thirdly: if Balthamel's blocker is evil, he/she wouldn't reveal either, probably.

 

But I really don't believe the evils get those roles as well. Why make an evil finder? They KNOWS all alignments.

 

Balthamel: you forgot the possibility that is in case here: I'm speaking the truth, and either someone else RBed you, or you are lieing.

 

You can evaluate all you want, nothing will change that.

[Asmodean-Mafia]

All in due time my little sunray,

 

So ... The even roleblocker could be an evil?

 

Is that what you're meaning?

 

I just wonder why I'm not believed. Most people have come online since I role-revealed, and no-one has claimed they are the other night-1 roleblocker. So, Balthamel is evil. Which part of this don't you all understand???????

 

Ok, slight hyperbole on my part, but it was near as dammit, why point this out this it was completely surplus and totally irrelevant and stated clealy as not being my point. And the stress on it the evil, were i was saying could be anything.

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

My night blocking would have worked [glow=green,5,300]if it was submitted as a night action.[/glow] Either they had not read the switch or sent it in and it was recieved after the switch. Either way, it was a role that works in the day and had to have been submitted for the day or it would have been blocked. Barm specifically said no role, known or unknown could move around that block at night. As I said, three times, three ways. I made certain.

 

I won't vote him without the answer to the question I asked him. How did he know of an all role blocker when it's not really a role that's been used?

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

How do you explain the fact that right after night one, I declared that the role blocker, (

I assumed there was only one) had targetted an innocent. That only makes sense if I was RBed myself.

 

Which is why I asked if maybe her role blocked in coming and out going actions, but her refusal to accept that what she quoted herself as saying may not have been good enough to get the answer I was asking for... It makes him look untrustworthy in the least. Does it only block the person he indicated? Yes could be the answer either way. Yes, it blocks his role from performing, and yes, it blocks other persons/roles from performing on him. Those are both blocking him.

[Asmodean-Mafia]

First, to the trap: I imagined a trap that made it necesseray for 2 people to die each night. But Be'lal (not Semi, the potential trapped) posted first that night.

 

Its not a trap when it is something that happens at night, then its a night action.

Unless say the trap was an action sent in the day  and the death was revealed at the begining of the night, but that just sounds a bit too ridiculous.

 

Secondly: the reason I hope the even-nights role-blocker reveals is very simple: it would make me a confirmed innocent (though you'll probably just neglect it, just like you do the Balthamel-things). The only other way (a night-kill) is NOT GOOD, because, if there's 4 evils and 2 kills/night, we've only got two nights left for an evil lynch. Maybe I haven't been clear enough, but the scum has almost won.

how?

 

Thirdly: if Balthamel's blocker is evil, he/she wouldn't reveal either, probably.

 

either? why would and evil block an evil, wouldnt this confirm Baltamel innocent, if this were the reason

 

But I really don't believe the evils get those roles as well. Why make an evil finder? They KNOWS all alignments.

 

Unless they dont. Could be a blind mafia, heck they mignt just have roles insetead of night actions.

 

 

[Arangar-Mafia]

Like you probably have noticed during this game (and previous ones), I always give all posibilities. If you see that as 'preparing my way out'??? Not only those positive to me. If you see that as 'preparing my way out'??? [glow=blue,2,300]I think it's more important that the innocent team wins, than that I survive.[/glow] But, with 2 nightkills a night, and someone who is 99% sure evil, [glow=blue,2,300]I'm very sorry for all you guys. But if you continue playing like this, the evil team is gonna laugh. A lot.[/glow]

As to the 2 deads: it was a DAY action. Don't ask me how that's possible, I have no idea. I just know we've got a 99% evil and a lot of you are unwilling to lynch him.

 

 

You just seem to be trying way too hard to assure us you are innocent... this is merely one post of several.  You also strongly attack anyone who dares oppose you like I said before.. and also said it seems a tactic to make people scared to vote you.... You told me to not be scared and post my thoughts and this is them.... I think you are evil and have had a strong gut feeling that way for a good part of the game.  Alot of what you say just doesn't add up for me.... Wasn't it you who said earlier in the game that you didn't understand the roleblocker role?  At any rate  [glow=red,2,300]Mesaana [/glow] looks far more suspicious to me than Balth.

[Asmodean-Mafia]

Like you probably have noticed during this game (and previous ones), I always give all posibilities.

Missed that bit, oh wow, that nigh on killed me. Taking a leaf out of your own book  (actually you probably have enought posts in this game for that ;) ) , on lying, its gotta be you [glow=red,2,300]Mesaana[/glow] kiddo

 

 

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Oh boy, now, Asmo, dear, I have a little trouble understanding parts of most of your posts, but this one takes the cake.  I don't understand that at all except that you are accusing Mesaana of lying.  Care to explain?

[Asmodean-Mafia]

Errrrrr...what i said? It was pretty self explanatory.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Hmm...guess I'll just have to take an asprin and re-read it...

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

First of all: I reacted badly to my role being questioned. Sorry about that. It's my first time as a roled innocent, if that's any excuse.

 

Secondly: I gave two tips that I was a role-blocker: first when Cyndane suggested that role, I asked what it did, and the dangers, to get a fuller understanding of the role. Aran'gar noticed this as strange. Secondly, just before night, I made a post of a couple of alineas. The last alinea was in capitals, saying that I didn't roleblock Balthamel; and the line above was the only other word in capitals: Be'lal.

 

As to Asmo's post:

 

About the trap: so, you mean a sort of 'trapper' role, trapping the first two people to post?

 

As to why an even-night role-blocker would make me innocent? How else could I know the roleblocker-role is split between odd and even nights??

 

there's two possibilities for a no-reveal if the role exists (either my even-nights blocker, or Balthamel's real blocker):

1) he/she is dead

2) he/she is evil

 

Could you re-explain this, please?

Could be a blind mafia, heck they mignt just have roles insetead of night actions.

 

And I've got a question to those voting for me: why would I choose Balthamel as victim if I were evil?

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

as to a vote-count:

 

Balthamel (3) - Mesaana, Cyndane, Halima

Mesaana (3) - Moridin, Aran'gar, Asmodean

 

13 still alive, meaning 7 votes for a lynch.

[Ishamael-Mafia]

 

I just got in from a 10 hour drive, and admit to having not read all of the posts twice, which I will. But, I do have some good info! I've labeled Mesaana as scum from early on and I do have a role - I am innocent (which the mafia already know), and Vigilante (which they did not know). The trick is, I had one kill that I had to make on night 2. I tried to kill Mesaana, but it did not happen.So how did it get blocked?  I have to re-read all of the posts, but it ain't looking good for Messy.  Just wanted to get that out there, and I do have rock solid proof of my claim, but I am curious to see the response from her.  ;) I vote [glow=red,2,300]Mesaana[/glow]

[Ishamael-Mafia]

 

Also, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafiascum for role info. This is a site that Barmy has posted and talked about before.

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

I role blocked everyone.

[Ishamael-Mafia]

Well that's just great, now that I have revealed my role. I try to help out and that's what I get! Did you announce this before?

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

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