Game Over - Insane Mafia Game. Page 94

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

Moghedien:

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Methinks some people really regret talking to me.

I wanna talks to you. Come here and cry it all out.

 

Now, I can't even tease our mod?

 

if we did not lynch then he would mod kill over night to even things back up.

I am pretty certain he would have said something about a mod kill.

 

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

Never said it was suspicious that you went off for twelve hours. I've been known to do it myself. Just that when you come back to a suggestion of innoculation voting you jump off Sammael, which looks like you were doing so before anyone else could jump on him to test the theory.

Sorry, I don't get this. I've got no idea what the word inoculation does here (unless it has got some sense other than some kind of introduction), and that seems to be the key word. Explain please?

 

 

And it sure sounded like you were voting Sammael for those reasons. But now that I go back and look I'm not sure what you were about with voting Sammael. You mention that you were sure the sniper would be quite active, so ... you voted for Sammael because he was rather inactive? [glow=blue,2,300]unvote[/glow] I'm just too tired to deal with this level of incoherence. You just explain yourself again and I'll come back with some coffee.

 

My logic:

1) I believe a sniper killed Semi

2) snipers have only one shot

3) the sniper is not expected to shoot the first night

4) barmy will not wait for a sniper-pm

5) for the sniper to know he/she has to shoot, he/she has to be quite active

6) from 2 and 5: one of the active persons was sniper, so is not evil

 

7) and I get from there to deciding that the inactive persons have more chance of being evil (somehow it makes sense, if you think really hard on it). I've still got a list of everyone still playing, looked of whom I didn't remember a post (the three in my vote-for-Sammael-post), and randomly picked Sammael out of that list.

 

 

Get it now?

 

Btw: if everyone just unvotes, we're gonna get nowhere.

 

EDIT: Just to clarify: I don't unvote.

[Ishamael-Mafia]

 

Vote Count:

 

Be'lal (3): Balthamel, Sammael, Ishamael

Mesaana (1): Be'lal

Demandred (2): Mesaana, Asmodean

Aginor (1): Rahvin

Aran'gar (1): Lanfear

 

I don't have any blazing new insights to offer other than to ask everyone to get involved with some analysis. We are not going to learn anything new from being inactive (but we might hit 50 pages without actually lynching someone ;D. I don't think that has ever happened!)

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

What are your thoughts on Cyndane? Anyone feel she is trustworthy? Anyone feel she is scummy?

 

Since no one is offering, we can do them one by one...

[Ishamael-Mafia]

 

Alright, I will join you and lead by example!

 

Case File: Cyndane

 

43 posts so far

Posted on pages 2, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 23, 27, 30, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36.

 

Bit of a spammer.

Very fond of short posts.

Randomly voted for Semi to push a lynch, then unvoted after the reveal.

Is knowledgable about mafia games in general

 

Her absences have been during and after skirmishes (me and Be'lal. Then me and her).

 

She did state that she does not like long games.

 

Is she just playing a normal game where info is hard to come by? Or a low profile mafioso.

 

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

That's nearly once per page, but with them all being short posts, it tends to feel terribly low profile and unhelpful.

 

Halima's next.  *likes having Ishy at her beck and call*

 

 

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

You know, the more I think about it, the more [glow=red,2,300]Graendal's[/glow] actions last night bother me.

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

Halima is not here too much...9 posts

 

Must be the trident she likes ;)

[Ishamael-Mafia]

 

Case File: Halima

 

I got 8 posts so far (but this is not an exact science)

Posted on pages 8, 9, 19, 25, 29, 31, 42

 

Does not care for spam

Does not add much to the game in her posts.

Voted No Kill, and felt like the Finder should reveal if Semi was evil (pg. 25)

Is "admittedley" new at games

 

Not much going on here.

[Ishamael-Mafia]

 

Seperate from cases, what about this:

 

A group of experienced players were drawn as mafia for this game. If there a four (probable, I'll accept that) or more, then they can afford to sacrifice one up front. So what if they come up with a plan to false claim as healer in hopes of drawing the healer and the finder out? It would be worth it! The only part I can't explain is why the fake claimer came up as innocent.

 

I'm not saying that this is exactly what happened, but I introduce it becasue something did happen and this might inspire someone to think of what it was.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Thanks for casing me, Ishy.  I like to know how people see me.

 

I haven't been around much lately because I have school that takes up a good 40% of my days.  I have weekends off though so that's good.  Also, I'm playing in the Werewolf Mafia game, so I kind of do a read through of this game and then post a couple times, then leave.  (I get so sleepy by that time)

 

I'm going to try and be more active now.  So, if anyone wonders why I all the sudden turned active, it's because I have been too inactive. 

[Ishamael-Mafia]

 

Pokes Moggy and Rahvin in the butt with trident. Gotta go for a little while.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Hmm...I'm going to vote [glow=red,2,300]Ishy[/glow]

[Guest Moridin-Mafia]

The reason I hop around like the ground's on fire is that I have absolutely nothing else to do. We had an eventful first day and a night that left way more questions than answers. I can accept that that probably isn't Bel'al's fault, even though he's probably going to answer for it eventually. The thing that annoys me the most is that with so many happenings we should be able to tease something out, but the theories all seem hollow or tenuous. The fact is that I feel like we're missing something, and I'm running around crazy hoping to elicit the right response. Not the most intelligent strategy, no. Hey, welcome to the nuthouse. Gotta go, don't expect me back for a few hours.

[Ishamael-Mafia]

 

Cyndi, seriously? That is like waving a red flag and saying "look over here!". But that's the second time so I guess we can't be friends. No trident for you!

[Ishamael-Mafia]

 

Being me and all, I can't just let this slide. Cyndi posted two days ago but is magically available for a response less than an hour after I case her? And then votes for me with no explanation other than revenge?  At some point Barm will most likely impose a time limit, so everyone who has a contribution to make should go ahead and do so.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Why is that a red flag?  I must have missed something.  

 

Please supply the quote that marks you as a confirmed innocent, otherwise...

 

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saw your second post.  It is not revenge.  Oh wow, I became available less than an hour after you case me.  Big deal.  I had just gotten back from school.  Very 'spicious! ::)

 

I basically wanted to see your reaction to a vote on you.  Now I'm not so sure I want to take it off.

[Ishamael-Mafia]

 

I see. It's the old "let's see how you react if I vote for you" ploy. That's cool, I can go with that.

 

Unvote Be'lal. Vote[glow=red,2,300] Cyndane[/glow]

 

For posting somewhat frequently, but not constructively. Knowing how to play this game, but not doing so. Being absent for long periods of time, but showing up as soon as she is mentioned and then voting for the person who questioned her.

 

I still don't like what Be'lal did, but I understand that other people see it differently. We do need to lynch someone, and I don't want to lose an innocent, but Cyndane is playing a mafiaesque technique and she knows how to play the game.  That, and the fact that she has not contributed anything is my reasoning.

 

Touche'. En Guard.

 

 

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

You just convinced me not to unvote you, Ishy.  If you're not mafia, you're being a reckless innocent atm.  And that's almost as bad.

 

First you say that Barm might make a timelimit soon, then you slow down the lynch by voting me.  Maybe I'm reading too much into your post, but that sounds like a contradiction to me.

[Lanfear-Mafia]

Vote count:

 

Be'lal(2) - Balthamel, Sammael

Mesaana(1) - Be'lal

Demandred(2) - Mesaana, Asmodean

Aginor(1) - Rahvin

Aran'gar(1) - Lanfear

Graendal(1) - Moghedien

Ishamael(1) - Cyndane

Cyndane(1) - Ishamael

 

Hope I've got that right.

[Balthamel-Mafia]

*sigh*

[Aginor-Mafia]

*Adds his vote in*

More I keep thinking about [glow=red,2,300]Graendal[/glow], more I think she's evil.

 

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

Since Graendal's got two votes, I'm gonna look through Graendal carefully.

 

She's not a frequent poster. Only 18 posts of her own. And most of these are spam (no, I don't mind, but they won't be quoted).

 

First important post:

the Healer is useless when the only person it can risk healing is himself! now, we can have no one reval their roles. the Finder (I'm assuming there is a Finder) must be very careful if/when they find an evil. because they cannot be Healed. I'm tempted to vote for Semi just for that  :P

 

but I wont. i'll vote for [glow=red,2,300]No Kill[/glow] since that seems to be the most popular option at the moment. I'll be gone all day. see ya's  :-*

This is after 2 people have voted "no kill", 2 people voted for be'lal, and the rest of us had either 1 or no vote. She put the extra wheight in the "no kill"-camp (which was beneficial for the mafia).  It was nót the most popular option at that moment. And the finder not having to reveal when he finds an evil??? Not a very good idea.

 

And in her next posts (one hour later), she repeats this:

hmm, I agree with Osan'gar on the Alt things..  :P

 

still, I dont really get the logic that the Finder should reveal. I dont see why any roled player should reveal unless they have to. we really have lost our healer now (if Semi is the healer that is). sure we still have the vote, but as a Healer, she is useless. let's just hope we have another person that can heal or something like that around here. so, if I can get an explanation on why the Finder should reveal,

 

20 minutes pass, and:

sorry, I didnt make myself clear there. I know that a finder should reveal him/herself i they find an evil player, what I asked is why the Finder should reveal before they have found someone.

 

I dont really look at myself as a newbie to the game. I guess I just didn't word my question properly.

That's nót what you said.

 

Next, she goes for a random vote, to see how the reaction will be:

[glow=red,2,300]Aginor[/glow]

 

You have randomly been selected by me. Please provide a good explanation why you are not evil. Should you satisfy me, I will remove my vote from you.

 

As explanation she receives the next from Aginor:

Explain to you why I'm not evil?

Well if that isn't the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

Because...I'm not.

It's not like I've contributed very much to the thread, and so I can't back myself up with some proof from previous posts and shove them back in your face.  Picking a person at 'random'(Who hasn't had enough posting to give much evidence back to you), voting for them, and threatening not to take the vote away unless they give you a good reason, doesn't exactly seem like a random, or a very innocent thing to do, personally. 

In all honesty, your asking everyone to name their top two candidates of the mafia, and explaining why? that doesn't seem to be a very innocent thing to be doing either. I mean, if you think about it, like a mobster would be doing, if there is a popular choice of the mafia, who happens to be innocent, all the mafia would have to do is nightkill the person that first suggested that the top candidate for mafianess.  Was that your plan allll along? Go for the quiet ones, seems to be a general rule in mafia games, well, you picked on a quiet one that didn't suspect you a single bit, and turned him into a suspicious one that suspects you a whooollleee bit.

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote[/glow] my vote for Be'lal.

I'm giving you a chance to respond, before I vote for you Graendal.

 

He attacks. Not a very good reason to believe him innocent, is it. And threatens to vote for her.

 

How does Graendal react?

well, Rahvin seems to think he have enough on you to vote for you. doesnt mean I think I do, but then, I dont really have enough to not vote for you either. but i'll [glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow] for now. but only because I dont have time to think atm..

Yep, she unvotes. Is she afraid to have a vote on her as retribution? Or does she already know Aginor is inocent? Or ... I don't know.

 

Anyhow, I think I've seen enough reason here to follow Moggy's and Agi's example: I [glow=red,2,300]unvote Demi[/glow] and vote [glow=red,2,300]Graendal[/glow].

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

Balthamel, you haven't got much posts as well. You're next.

[Ishamael-Mafia]

I only have time for a quick check in, but what if we did a chart that shows everybody's post total, how many posts were spam, and how many were game related. That will give us some information. What else could we add to this?