Game Over - Insane Mafia Game. Page 94

[Ishamael-Mafia]

 

Or to at least post! There are five or six that we have not heard from in a long time.

[Demandred-Mafia]

Balthamel! Come and join us for a spell.  :P

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

That has become tiresome, has it not?

[Ishamael-Mafia]

 

A little to tiresome? As in, everybody is to tired to post. Que lastima.

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

Why are you here, then?

[Ishamael-Mafia]

Well, because you are here, and I have been trying to catch you alone for a while to tell you something special  *you are so hot!*  So hows about a free ticket to the gun show? *kisses bicep* Uh Huh.

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

I was thinking of going to bed with you because you were the only one around, but that was just too much for me to deal with. Now I have to tell you to get a life instead. *G*

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

I guess I am rather intrigued by your weapons display, however.

[Balthamel-Mafia]

I am glad you missed me...:)

 

My only thoughts are that there may be a SK on he loose, or if there is a vig that he may of targetted Semi.

 

If Semi was a doc, and was self healing then she had NK immunity, last night. In which case it would be fine for a vig to target her, as if she was telling the truth she would survive and if she was lying about her role she would die.

 

That could be a reason why she died, she might of been lying, she might of just been an ordinary townie trying to stop herself from getting lynched...

 

I dunno.

 

My main point is this, we gave up on a lynching last night and by all accounts we are nowhere closer to where we were before, so my question is [glow=red,2,300]Be'lal[/glow], What infomation did we find out? How did the no lynch benefit us?

 

And if you cannot answer those questions, atleast tell us why we shouldn't lynch you tonight...

 

I know this sounds agressive, but he led us into a no-lynch which is a very scummy thing to do, (this is not just me speaking but the general feeling of the mafia community...), and I apprehensive, but we did it, and now I want to know what the results are...

[Ishamael-Mafia]

*Drops swords, knives, ball and chains, and trident to do his best Mr. Atlas flex*

 

Grrrr! Baby, yeah!

[Ishamael-Mafia]

 

Er, that was for Moggy, not Balthamel. Sorry Dude, did not mean to scare ya.

[Aginor-Mafia]

Well you scared the **** out of me!

 

 

 

 

And Balth's explanation is leading me to believe that Be'Lal might be the assassin...

 

 

Hrm.

I shall ponder on this!

 

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

If Semi was a doc, and was self healing then she had NK immunity, last night. In which case it would be fine for a vig to target her, as if she was telling the truth she would survive and if she was lying about her role she would die.

 

That is what I was saying. Either she lied about her role, or she did not confide that there were known/unknown restrictions on her. These are the simplest two solutions. Any role that could move past the healing would have been mentioned in one way (flat out) or another (you have restrictions that I am not revealing), according to Barm's statement.

 

[Lanfear-Mafia]

Ok, I'll be honest here.  I haven't been posting very much because I'm still very new to Mafia games and I'm still unsure about how best to proceed.  This also explains why I don't throw out random votes or write up complicated studies of every player and their possible roles.  I'm on a different timeline to most of you (I think, at least), too, and I don't really tend to spam, either.  I would like to know how best to avoid notice if increased activity can be seen as a sign of guilt, but also if not posting very much can be seen as a sign of guilt.  Do people think the same way when looking for finders, healers and other beneficial roles?

 

 

That said, though, I'm also curious as to why SemiVemy and Osan'gar were both nightkilled.  There are all manner of possibilities - even for roles that haven't really been seen before this game - so trying to guess would be beyond me:  I'd probably fall laughably short of the truth.  One thing I am worried about is if SemiVemy was telling the truth and was the healer, and now we have no protection from nightkills, all other possibilities notwithstanding.

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

Aran'gar, Sammael, Moridin: we are missing you here!!!

 

As to Semi: I believe there's a healer-free sniper active. But he/she loosened his shot, so is not a threat any more. Also, I presume he/she is active (night won't have been dragged on for him/her). That's why I'm gonna vote someone quite inactive: [glow=red,2,300]Sammael[/glow]

[Balthamel-Mafia]

I think the only reason Semi and Orsangar were killed was because they were innocents...

 

Try to cut back on the spam guys so we can see who is truely active...

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

Well, Ij ust checked, and everybody posted at least once since the day started. The three people above are those I don't remember having seen, so they probably haven't made a valuable post. And, as I think the sniper had to have been someone active (as explained above), I voted one of them.

 

Btw:

 

Be'lal (1): Balthamel

Sammael (1): Mesaana

[Balthamel-Mafia]

What the hell is a sniper?

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

someone who gets one extra nightkill. I've never seen him/her on the bad side, but why not? I've never seen a healed person getting killed either. It's just my educated guess.

[Asmodean-Mafia]

someone who gets one extra nightkill. I've never seen him/her on the bad side, but why not? I've never seen a healed person getting killed either. It's just my educated guess.

There was one game where there was an Evil assasin, but in that instance the evil team did not have a night kill.

 

Also another thought- perhaps it was more a bodyguard, than healer role, that is Semi took the 'bullet' for whoever s/he was protecting  , instead of healing them, so self healing wouldnt work?

 

Right account this time :-[

[Guest Moridin-Mafia]

First of all, Sammael gets a cookie. Second of all, bad Moggie! Bad! I demand a solid half hour of foot-licking for this, or else I'm giving your cour'souvra to Balthamel to play with!

 

Okay, Bel'al is looking quite suspicious after this. If the following things are true:

1) Forfeiting a lynch gives the evils extra power and

2) They were aware of this

 

Then, look for evils amongst those advocating a no-lynch, chief amongst them Bel'al. Yes, if those things were both true he could still be an innocent who was ignorant of this and was genuinely playing the numbers game for the good of the innocents, but what are the odds that he got there before the evils, who would be looking for a reason to bring about a no-kill vote?

 

Of course, these things are speculation and we don't know that the double kill and the fact that we voted to go to night are in any way related. Going to night might still have been the best thing to do. So can we shoot the messenger just because the night turned out bad. The short answer is no. But the long answer (with a few additional points) is yes. The points are:

 

We can't know if going to night without a lynch caused the double murder, but we do know that going to night without lynching is an anomaly in any mafia game, and there's no denying that what happened last night was highly anomalous. So we have two anomalies. Occam's Razor  :P says they're linked in some way: one anomaly rather than two.

 

There's another thing. Someone posted of the possibility that Bel'al had a role that required him to name his kill. He named Osan'gar. In fact, he did more. He speculated about Osangar's identity. It could be that his role required him to not only name his kill but correctly guess their true identity. Now the general consensus is that Bel'al is Kivam. Kivam always goes for the smart play. Just how is trying to out the identity of a player (indeed one of several players, particularly those with formidable reputations and/or a track record of getting night killed) the smart play, mmm? Even if it isn't Kivam, the same applies. Something fishy is going on.

 

So without further ado I'll put my vote where my mouth is: [glow=red,2,300]Bel'al[/glow], it's time to leave the House.

[Balthamel-Mafia]

I don't care who Be'lal is. I care that he is wrong, and a bad thing for the town...

[Lanfear-Mafia]

I'm beginning to wonder if foregoing a lynch on day one was a good thing or not.  I've been reading and rereading for a while, and I can't come up with anything solid - other than the fact that I can't really trust anyone - largely because roles haven't been revealed on death and we don't know the extent of how many roles there are out there.  With all the possibilities, it's all the more important to make the next lynch count. 

 

Well, back to reading, I guess.

 

[Guest Sammael-Mafia]

Yay I got a cookie!

 

I was against the no kill vote because I didn't think it would help us. I now know I was right to feel the way I did and that we are in a bad spot now. With not alot of information to go on except that there are more roles that we don't know about. Which is why I am going to vote [glow=red,2,300]Be'lal[/glow]. I'm not 100% sure that he is evil, but advocating the no kill is just like one of those warning lights going off for our town and we should have thought about it more yesterday.

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

I would like to hear like to hear from Be'lal to give us this information that we can gleen from it all.

 

he may have instigated the No lynch vote, but that doesn't make him evil, if anything I would say that the evils would have jumped on this especially if it came from and innocent (I'm not saying he is.). Would an evil stick his neck out by going with a no lynch, I don't know. But it maybe just as good to look at the band wagoners who slip in behind.

 

I'm going to have reread this for me to even come up with two names I think you are all suspicious.lol

 

Except Messie, who is just too damn hot to be evil ;) :-*