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Miltiades

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  1. Sorry, but that's complete rubbish. Being bigger does not automatically mean better in a battle. For example the Romans, who were very short people, kicked the asses of Celts, who were generally much bigger than they were. Greeks prized short and stocky men in their phalanxes because a low center of gravity is better in a pushing match, I know the Aiel dont fight in phalanxes, but still, the claim that those who were shorter and more compact would have a significant disadvantage when fighting is ludicrous. In the waste, tall people would have ended up skinny and emaciated as they wouldn't
  2. Sorry, but that's complete rubbish. Being bigger does not automatically mean better in a battle. For example the Romans, who were very short people, kicked the asses of Celts, who were generally much bigger than they were. Greeks prized short and stocky men in their phalanxes because a low center of gravity is better in a pushing match, I know the Aiel dont fight in phalanxes, but still, the claim that those who were shorter and more compact would have a significant disadvantage when fighting is ludicrous. In the waste, tall people would have ended up skinny and emaciated as they wouldn't
  3. It really shouldn't be that difficult to see the point here even if you don't agree with it. Individuals may be exceptional, but a race of people, all of whom are exceptional, is not the human species that I am familiar with. Now I wouldn't mind this as much, if it were not for the fact that the human species as I am familiar with it does exist in the books, they're called non-Aiel. Maybe it's because of the harsh conditions that the Aiel have had to deal with over the three thousand years since the breaking. Unlike wetlanders (and us in our modern day western societies), Aiel di
  4. Thats very narrow minded said. Obviously nothing written in this thread has made any impact yet on what kind of soldier the Aiel are, im so tired of this thread... Then don't answer. But since you did: Why is pointing out that the Mongols are completely different from the Aiel in the way they fight narrow minded? The Mongols had all the things I'm saying the Aiel don't have. Armour, heavy cavalry, even horse archers. There is no comparison.
  5. It really shouldn't be that difficult to see the point here even if you don't agree with it. Individuals may be exceptional, but a race of people, all of whom are exceptional, is not the human species that I am familiar with. Now I wouldn't mind this as much, if it were not for the fact that the human species as I am familiar with it does exist in the books, they're called non-Aiel.
  6. The Mongols used cavalry extensively, comparisons with them are inappropriate.
  7. Braus I agree with you that the nutritional value of many of our foods has decreased, but these aren't the foods that people serious about their fitness eat. I know something about this because I keep in very good shape myself. You always eat foods as close to their natural form as possible, stay away from all the processed crap that gets produced. So professional athletes today aren't eating the food like substances that pass for food a lot of the time these days, they're eating good food and a lot of it. As for the gai'shain, you need to remember that the gai'shain are the warriors. The
  8. Exactly, in order to maintain a level of fitness where you can run so far you need to do run every day. Plus they need to train at weapons and martial arts to keep up their mad ninja skills. The calorie requirments for such a lifestyle would be enormous. Royal Marines for example are fed over 4000 calories a day, and at some stages training becomes so intense that they still lose weight. Getting that much nourishment from such the Waste would be simply impossible. Your point about Gaul going for a protein shake cracked me up by the way. Thing is, if all the humans were pulling crazy
  9. If anything that would work for my case and against yours. Humans have been growing larger recently because of the superabundance of food that we now have available. We are wealthy enough that people can afford to dedicate their lives to pursuits that do not produce anything useful, such as being athletes. I haven't brought this up so far because I think it would be incredibly anal to gripe about logistics but there is absolutely no way that nomads living in a desert could afford to train and fight their whole lives, absolutely no way. The Spartans just about managed this by enslaving basicall
  10. They are just one type of soldier, that is a simple fact. Yes their infantry double as archers but that doesnt change the fact that they're all equipped in the same fashion. You're supposed to picture a pitched battle, you know, by far the most common kind. Where the enemy cavalry does get to charge and that's why you prepare for this eventuality by having pikemen or the like or even just using your own cavalry.
  11. Everything you say is true, however those boxers and swimmers are people who've reached the happy medium, a good all round fitness level. But they will never be as good as someone who focuses entirely on one area. So you cant reach the pinnacle of fitness of all areas. The Aiel however, are bigger, stronger, faster, tougher and have better endurance than anyone else. They're all as tall as Rand, as stacked as Perrin, can run at the level of world class athletes, and do all this on the sustenance they receive from a barren desert. And anyway, I've never said a wetlander army co
  12. Erm, no they cant. Probably because skirmishing infantry don't carry pikes. Pikes being the principle ingredient in a pike square. As others have pointed out, the Aiel spears are about as long as swords, so they've forgone the advantage that true spears confer against mounted opponents. And why wouldn't they? It's not like they ever have to face cavalry in the waste. Foot equipped as the Aiel are cant stand up to horse, and never have. That is precisely why things like pikes squares were developed, to counter the enormous advantage that cavalry has against infantry who aren't equi
  13. That's exactly what I'm saying, they're a race of people where the average member is exceptional in every way. Like you pointed out, if you want to be able to run ridiculous distances really fast, you have to give up in other areas. You can't carry heavy, calorie consuming muscles, that is if you're a regular human. You just don't get races of 6'6'' muscle bound Herakles' who are also world class cross country runners. You especially don't get humans growing that big in a place like the waste, where it is advantageous to be more compact so your fuel requirement is less and it's easier to
  14. Not really, the best horses can reach 45-50 miles per hour, and it seems clear that most wetland nations know a fair bit about horse breeding so its not unreasonable to assume they'd have at least good quality horses if not superb. Also, it's not a matter of numerical advantage with the flank, it's that there just wont be that much frontage to attack, because you have to make sure you aren't in front of them and they'll be moving very fast. Sort of like when shooting at a target moving perpendicular to you. If you try to lap round the back they'll speed ahead of you and if you try to gain
  15. Would you disagree with "Nazi culture lied to the Germans"? Yes exactly. Cultural morals put arbitrary moral judgments upon things that are non-issues. For example, one culture could say ''eating pigs is bad'' and another could say ''eating pigs is good'' and neither of these viewpoints is right or wrong because eating pigs is a moral non-issue. It isn't good or bad. If one culture says ''the slaughter of the innocent is good'' and another says ''the slaughter of the innocent is bad'' these are not morally equivalent viewpoints. Killing innocent people doesnt become good no
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