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Gracel

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  1. Great answers! LOL That gave me a nice laugh after a really long day. @ Amyahoshi: "Interesting how females are dislking Berelain, I wonder why! *cough* rudewordquestioninghermoralcompassregardssexualin tercourse *cough*" Oh, I don't care if she's a *couslutgh*. I don't buy into the whole victorian/puritanian holdover that women should have no sexual feelings and no desire to pursue men. What bothers me is that she keeps pursuing Perrin after he's made his disinterest perfectly clear. If a man was doing the same thing, he'd be a stalker and would end up with a restraining order. I also take issue with the way she first approached Perrin-as a member of the Royal class wanting to "commission a blacksmith." Ugh. These responses are fun to read. I still haven't thought of anything good about Gawyn. Is there anyone who actually likes him?
  2. Ok, I've read so many rants about Faile and Elayne and Egwene and Gawyn and Perrin et blech, so I thought I'd ask people to look past the hate. Here's my question: who is your least favorite character, and what is one thing, in spite of everything else you hate about them, that you have to admit you actually admire? It can be a personality trait or a thing they did, and it can be more than one thing (though it might be hard enough to think of one). I'll start: I can't stand Berelain. I just don't understand why any woman would make a sport of laying claim to a married man, and the way she pursues Perrin is disgusting. Her whole personality is an anathema to me. BUT, I have to admit that I admire her unrelenting faith in serving the Dragon Reborn. Perhaps it's just because she saw that he would be fair to Mayene, but I really admire that she has stuck with him. She could have tried to grab power for herself in Cairhein, but instead she worked to help him govern the country. We haven't seen specific instances of it, but I get the impression she cares for her people and her country deeply. Whew, that was hard! Anyone else up for the challenge? Remember, it has to be something you admire! A brief statement about why you hate the person is ok, but please don't turn this into another rant thread! G PS I really hate Gawyn, too, but I couldn't think of anything I admire about him. Maybe I will later. :(
  3. Perhaps she acquired pigeons in Tarabon before they set up their camp in the mountains. It seems that Aes Sedai do a lot with pigeons.
  4. I'm not quite sure why one would want to keep reading the series if they were so bored. Personally I have never been bored by any of the books. Impatient, maybe, to find out what will happen, but not bored. The problem with this whole discussion is that terms like "bored" and "interesting" are subjective. Trying to back up an argument that a book is boring based on reader reviews is pointless. The best indicator of a book's success is sales. I'm not sure what the figures are, but given that ALL the WOT books are still in print and the publisher is happily producing three more books, Jordan was clearly doing something right. I disagree with the statement that an author has complete control of the content of their story. Delivery, certainly. However, for many authors, once they begin writing a story the characters take over. Why did Perrin spend 21 chapters chasing Faile? Because that was the nature of his character and the natural progression of the plot. For RJ to have anything else occur would not have been true to the story. Granted, he could have skipped showing us what happened and instead shown some big battles, but that 1) was not his style and 2) would have confused the heck out of readers when Perrin showed up later and said, "Rand, I've taken care of the Shaido. They won't be troubling you any longer. Oh, and I met some Seanchan. They seem like nice enough fellows." Personally, I love the multiple POV scenes and the scenes with minor side characters. Rather than being confusing or distracting, they add to the clarity of the WOT world for me. The fact that RJ manages to keep so many characters, places, and times consistent throughout 11 books is nothing short of remarkable. Clearly, RJ's style and WOT is not for everyone. I'm sure there are plenty of violent, action-packed fantasy books out there for those bored by these books. Frankly the battle scenes are what I find a little boring, although I'm hoping the TG battle will be epic and grand. A TG battle that lasted over 6 books? I probably would have quit reading. :)
  5. To Auld Manriva, no one who has mentioned seeing a difference between Sanderson and Jordan's styles has been rude or mean about it, we are just commenting on our reactions. I think Sanderson did a great job, I just don't think he writes in the same style as Jordan.
  6. I re-read the part about the sword and I don't think the sword is one we've seen physically in the story before now, like Laman's or Turak's. My reason for this is not the description, but the context. Rand says the sword was recently unearthed and given to him as a gift, without those who gave it having any idea what they had. He also says he did not tell anyone about it, even Min--why keep it secret? I think it's most likely as Andrew said, something from his Aiel Memories or Justice. I could tell this was Brandon not Jordan, but I enjoyed it. It will some getting used to reading WOT with a different style, but as long as we get answers to our questions I'm happy. It was infuriating to get to the end of the chapter and not be able to keep going.
  7. No no, its safe . . . perfectly safe . . . see, people do it all the time: My favorite part is the fuel in hot water bottles zipped into his suit.
  8. For someone who doesn't Joke, mb certainly provides me with hours of entertainment. Mr Ares' replies to this thread had me laughing so hard I nearly choked on my dinner. My cats are looking at me like I'm a total weirdo. Seriously, mb, are you a robot in disguise?
  9. Have you spent much time reading these forums? We can't even agree on the definition of the word "sent," let alone a word as subjective as "rape." I do however appreciate your larger point, that the word has many definitions from many different points of view. I thought Tylin's actions were disgusting. Whether or not she physically raped Mat, she used her power to coerce him into something he didn't want. I think the complexity of the situation is a testament to Jordan's power as a writer, although I did think that Mat's response was too mild. As to him growing to have feelings for her and remembering her fondly, well, that is often a perverse effect of abuse. That's why many in domestic violence situations have such as hard time escaping--they grow emotionally attached to the abuser.
  10. One more thought, regarding the extra money we will be shelling out for three rather than one or two books: You get what you pay for. If Brandon had rushed and squeezed this into one book that we could pay one price for, it would be cheaper but also worth less. I'm willing to pay more, especially as at least some of that excess money will go to a man who is spending sometimes 80 hours a week working on this project. Who knows how the contract is set up, but if it is a typical advance + loyalties, Brandon is not getting paid by the hour. Hopefully the loyalties on three books will make those 80 hour weeks worth his time. I'm happy to pay well for a job well done. And thank you, Jestr1323.
  11. What would RJ say? I have no idea because I never knew the man personally, but the impression I have is that he was quite a gentleman. I think he would say "thank you, Brandon, for taking time from your own writing projects to finish my life's work and to do it well, not rushed and incomplete. Thank you, Harriet, Light of my life, for continuing to devote your life to my work and my dreams even now that I am gone. Go do something purely for yourself, next. Thank you, Tom, for taking a risk on a lengthy trilogy that turned into a project bigger than anyone could imagine. And thank you, fans, for caring so much."
  12. Sincere apologies. My copy of TGH has chosen this time to go wandering somewhere, so I simply copied the quote from a post in another thread. I will correct the error shortly.
  13. I think that covers all options. If anyone has any other theories, let's hear them. For an 11 page discussion of the definition of "sent," see the post titled "Questions about Moiraine."
  14. Anyone else thinking this question would be a good poll? I'm not sure how to set one up, I'm new, but I'll give it a try. If you don't see one by Monday morning assume I gave up or fell asleep. If anyone else wants to go for it, feel free. javascript:void(0);
  15. Just a thought: It has been mentioned a few times that the DO would not want Lanfear to be returned weakened, either by himself or other forces, because that would diminish her usefulness. However, it seems to me that strength in the power might not necessarily be her only asset. No, I'm not talking about her ravishing good looks that seem to have disappeared as well. She could have intimate knowledge of Lews Therin that would help the Shadow fight him. Further, the Dark might have their own Foretelling regarding her necessity to the TAG. Consider the following dark prophecy: "Daughter of the Night, she walks again. The ancient war, she yet fights. Her new lover she seeks, who shall serve her and die, yet serve still. Who shall stand against her coming? The Shining Walls shall kneel." Not sure whether the DO himself would believe in such prophecy, or if he actually created it as propaganda, but it seems that she might be an integral part of the Last Battle (to the Dark), enough so for them to rescue her at any cost. And the DO might just be insane/cocky enough to figure she can still help him win, with or without her former strength. And it might be in Moridin's best interest for her to be reduced, that way she can't challenge his position (the mindtrap aside).
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