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Posts posted by Charlz Guybon
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RJ once said that it was unlikely someone turned to the shadow could find his way back to the Light on his own, implying that it is possible to bring someone back to the Light if they've been turned, which is sort of what your talking about.
But beyond that, who would want to?
The Restorers (healers), I remember reading that even the restorers had problems bringing back those who were turned by Semirhage.
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Have you not read all the books yet?? :-\
I think he means can a woman bond a man, and then can that man bond that woman, and vice a versa.
I don't think we've seen that yet, but I would assume so.
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JakeBarnes, I think it's likeliest that we'll know for sure when Sattele meets Nyneave/Flinn.
WoT characters meeting and solving each others' problems?! I know people have accused Brandon of mistakes of varying magnitudes, but surely he'd never go that far.
I loled ;D
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Every time we're introduced to Caemlyn the fifty foot high walls are mentioned, but are we ever told how thick the walls are? I don't think we are and it annoys me. :P
For way of comparison the impregnable walls (until the advent of the canon) of Constantinople were 12 meters high (39 ft) and 5 meters (16ft) thick.
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how tall is the white tower?
A hundred spans (two hundred paces {six hundred feet})
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Are dobraine Taborwin and breane Taborwin father and daughter?
I don't think so. More likely some kind of cousin, maybe a younger sister at most I think.
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This has been what has been curious to me in the series. The the AOL we heard "legends" of the Forsaken wiping out hundreds of thousands of people at a time. Cities fell at their fury. Was this simply legend?
Possibly. Though, by Lews Therin's memories most of the tragedies really did happen, so I just assumed that the Forsaken had access to stolen sa'angreal during the War of Power.
Nearly half the Aes Sedai defected to the Dark, so there were hundreds of thousands of Dreadlords (although they were all called Forsaken back then IIRC).Plus all the angreal, sa'angreal and ter'angreal.
As for why Messana didn't steal the Sa'angreal from the Tower. Just imagine if she did. It's something she couldn't cover up, the Aes Sedai would find out and thus all the other Forsaken would find out and they would all turn on her immediately even Demandred and Semirhage. She'd shoot past Rand like a rocket to the top of the assassinate immediately list. Better to steal an angreal from the cache, important enough to help, but not important enough to turn everyone against her. If she really needs to, she can always take it later.
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Actually, that was a woman. ;)
Anyways, I think she was going on the assumption that the ability for females to channel would ensure that there would not be a patriarchal society, that they would at least be considered equal.
In her domestic violence section, she uses the example of Perrin spanking Faile, but didn't he do that because she threw china at his head? Also she doesn't make mention of the straps that Far Madding women carry around.
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The world of the Wheel of Time has a three thousand year history of subtle female domination. The cultures and characters are developed accordingly. In our world, perhaps, bristling relationships between men and women are not so commonplace... but Jordan has a unique view on society. He seems to suggest that men would have a much harder time accepting female dominance than women in our own culture have historically accepted male rule. There are nations in Randland where men are treated like second-class citizens. But Jordan is not catering his series to women exclusively. His male characters are equally strong, and it seems that his world is on the cusp of an era where balance will be restored, and men will reestablish their equality with women.
Damn, that guy is optimistic. Given human nature, I'd expect the reestablish of a patriarchal society. Not immediately of course, but slowly but surely. Only the prospect of a rapid technological development in the next few centuries is likely to prevent it.
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Call it "chivalry" if you want, sexism is sexism. There is nothing a man can do that a woman cannot. The attitute that men should protect women is incredibly 17th century, and it sickens me to see that certain people still want to follow it. For all the guys out there who agree with Rand's notion to some degree, would you not feel insulted if some group of people out there wanted to protect you especially because they thought you were weaker? Whatever happened to equality?
Now that some people have metioned it, most of the Randland characters are pretty sexist, both the women and men. In fact, I cannot think of one major character off the top of my head who seems to believe in complete equality for men and women. I'm hoping RJ doesn't take his characters' views...
Have you forgotten the setting of the story? It is the 17th century, with the exception of the military technology, where it's the 14th. You are making a big mistake judging the characters by modern standards.
Most women are physically, significantly weaker than men. In a society were weapons can only be wielded to effect with physical strength, women will be at the mercy of men. That's why societies create these kinds of ethical codes. Society in the WoT has been more successful at indoctrinating chivalry than in medieval Europe because of the supernatural taint that men bear in the WoT.
If one were to look at it objectively, the quality of life for women in the WoT is much greater than that of women in medieval and renaissance Europe. They are much safer and have much more political influence at all levels of society.
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Why is Rand so ridiculously sexist? ??? That whole list of women whose deaths he blames himself for is way overkill. I don't understand why he feels worse for the death of a darkfriend woman than for a loyal Aielman who died for him. It just makes no sense that he can't kill a woman but can kill a man. It's driving me nuts...if it was just Rand I could attribute it to a thick skull, but Perrin and Mat seem to harbor the same feelings! Does anyone understand that whole "worse to kill a woman" thing? It just seems so fake to me. How dare he base his level of guilt for a death on gender! >:(
It's almost insulting, as if he believes the woman did not stand as good of a chance. The Maidens seem to get a tad frustrated with this, but they don't sweat over it. If anyone can possibly explain Rand's attitude, please do, because my brain will soon turn to mush fuming over it.
We are all products of the societies we were raised in. They were raised in a matriarchal society that forbade and stigmatized violence against women. It's only natural that they feel more guilt about this violence done against women, than violence done against men, given this upbringing.
How tall is the White Tower?
in Wheel of Time Books
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It's a 100 spans tall, not a hundred paces.
The BWB is fine if the info is not mentioned in a book, but it's in the books that's a 100 spans, and that makes 600 ft.