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Raal Gurniss

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  1. Yes, but there it is....One is a classic that has lasted decades the other is a semi controversial series that finished midrun. Both contained things espousing certain values over others yet one balanced things out to become a generational classic that will likely manage a century whilst the other was imbalanced and will be largely forgotten in a year or two. He-Man is another example, the early 80s version is considered classic despite its blatant inserted lecturing message of the day moral lesson, the 2020s later revival with over inserted woke agenda largely that tried a similar thing, which pretty much ended the branding. Doctor Who is the same.... There is a balance and if you put too much of something in it, you put enough people off that it can't sustain itself and it will wither and die. That is what happened here, frankly much of this could have been avoided by creating a new show rather than relying on WoT branding, I don't understand the thinking of paying hundreds of millions to use an IP only to then change it so much. Much of the decision making that must have gone on makes no sense, the level of hubris must have been huge. The show renewals before audience reception for instance. Things just don't make sense, its not like the showrunners, directors and producers had any great passion about the books, even exploitation of the brand managed only short term gains as many were off put by the interpretation. The whole thing reeks of boardroom committee wanting too many things put in and taken out.
  2. The politics were put into it, many people felt the politics swamped and overwhelmed the story and became what the show was about. It was the trend to use popular fiction as a vehicle for agenda purposes. Hollywood, Disney, Amazon and many others did this. Some people like it and some people don't. It is what it is, I mean I have no intention of fighting that battle, but I can acknowledge that it exists.
  3. Its written words..They all have the same volume even if written in capitals and are asked to be considered as shouting. I don't recognise your argument as being valid in that regard, I see no point arguing the case further on my part, not my intent to antagonise any further than making my point and view known.
  4. Debate with multiple opinions and views is surely preferable to just hearing what you want to hear, isn't that what forums are supposed to be? People tire of echo chambers very quickly.
  5. Many people just didn't like the version that the show portrayed and considered it at the least a great disappointment, some felt it a betrayal, others that it was overly exploited by the woke movement to push agenda... You asked a question, they are giving you their answer, perhaps you should rephrase the question. No insights about the story were gained that I didn't get from the books, I found that the show was rather lacklustre and lacking depth, but then how can a show go into greater detail than the tomes of the books combined with someone's imagination? Especially when that show ended a few books into the story.
  6. Doesn't strike me as an overly populated planet and they knew where Kenobi was roughly, certainly within walking distance...And given Kenobi was also in walking distance of Luke....
  7. In fairness the odds are fairly good given the ship was likely ordered to go to the planet, to find Kenobi who they knew lived in the region because he was ordered there to watch over Luke so whilst the odds are still pretty high(thousands to one), they aren't literally astronomical.
  8. Pretty clear that WoT is fairly(not enormously) feminist originally and that he intended to increase it. Which he did, not saying its good or bad..But its quite clear that is what happened. We have all this hindsight available now and can use that.
  9. That is not the reason they did it, there was a whole cultural shift going on...They did it and all the other stuff for that reason, same with many things that Amazon were doing, same as Disney, same as Hollywood and the BBC. They did this sort of stuff because they were told it was what the public not only wanted but desperately needed. It is what it is and it was/is rife. Not saying its right or wrong, good or bad, just or unjust....Merely that it went on and WoT heavily embraced it.
  10. When they started renewing it before a series was even released it was pretty obvious it was doomed, I always assumed either someone producing the show was having an affair with Bezos or someone nearly as high up, either that or blackmail.
  11. That wasn't the reason they did it....
  12. Didn't like what I watched, so I didn't keep watching it. Felt it would inevitably be cancelled well before it got a full run....Massive shame given how excited I was when it was announced to be made. Truth of the matter is that it wasn't good enough to continue and lost vast swathes of the audience who felt betrayed for lack of a better word. Even so I am dismayed it was cancelled as I know friends and family (very much the minority of) who enjoyed it, so I feel for them, despite their poor taste in shows. Perhaps if the showrunners pandered to the majority share of the audience rather than having a go at them then it might have had a longer run. I wonder what effect it will have on continuing book sales...I know over the decades I bought 2-3 copies of each book and the audiobooks, but in all honesty the show put me right off the lot. Mix of feelings on the cancellation all in all though, meh. All I lost is what might have been.
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