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  1. According to cover art (from The Eye of the World and New Spring) Moiraine should've brown hair. No other artist has drawn her like that except for Darrel Sweet. So we shouldn't trust him so much. Also let's hope trollocs don't look anything like Sweet drew them in the covers of books 2 or 5, because they're described as entirely different inside the books. I'm also relieved that the K-POP singer rumor turned out to be just a rumor. I much prefer this actor, who has appeared in lots of episodes of TV series (and dubbed many movies as well).
  2. I don't know how true it is that there's basically only one war each generation. Tam al'Thor served the Illian Companions by participating in many wars with Tear. And then he went to fight the Aiel at the Battle of Shining Walls. Some nations seem to have conflict basically each generation, like Arad Doman x Tarabon, Tear x Illian, Tear x Cairhien, Cairhien x Andor, Amadicia x other people (the Whitecloak War). Don't forget that the Borderlands also is in a state of constant conflict with the Blight, and Shienar apparently also with the Aiel (that's why Masema hated Rand at first). My guess of why technology didn't seem to improve much until the end of the series was the theme that Wheel of Time had of decay. The Dark One's touch is getting stronger on the world / Pattern, and this is seen in large tracts of land becoming unihabitable (like the Caralain Grass). It's not that they become deserts, it's just that the crops fail and people can't live there anymore. The Compact of the 10 Nations was basically the technological and logistical peak of the Third Age. After that Mat notices that his memories have armies that become smaller. They become bigger again when Arthur Hawkwing united all the Westlands, but by the time the series starts the size of the armies is a fraction of what it was before, like comparing the Middle Ages with Antiquity. We also see that with the White Tower, with how empty it is compared to the centuries before, how people have forgotten a lot of weaves and what ter'angreal do or how to make them. It's a whole theme of decay that grows stronger until our main characters come to the rescue of the world.
  3. Regarding the lack of shields: Japanese warriors didn't use shields. Their amored sleeves (kote) were bigger to compensate that. So Randland is something like Japan not only in people using swords that look like katanas and sword forms that have outrageous names, but also in lacking shields (until the Legion of the Dragon uses pavises).
  4. I thought about that too. Maybe it'd have been expanded upon on the Tam prequel.
  5. Not only that, that list could predate the publication of TEOTW and Jordan could've changed his mind in the meantime. In that list there's a blue eyed actress to play Nynaeve and a blonde actor to play Perrin. Yet Jordan wrote (and published in its final form) that NOBODY in the Two Rivers had light eyes and that Ms Grimwell was the first blonde person Rand encountered in HIS ENTIRE LIFE. Jordan did change stuff on previous books when there were mistakes (like Kari al'Thor's apparition conjured by Ishamael having dark eyes, which could totally be justified with Ishamael not actually knowing what she looked like, or Jain Fairstrider having disappeared in 994NE in the Glossary when the text says it's been about 2 decades) or when he just wanted to change things (like Alsbet/Elsbet). Here's a link with a few examples http://www.encyclopaedia-wot.org/main/errata.html Yet he never changed those parts that contradict the supposed casting list. So what's wrong, the list (if the list is actually true or was useful to Jordan at all) or the printed words in our official versions of books?
  6. Agreeing with you. Morgase says she wouldn't believe Rand was from the Two Rivers, except for his accent. How would the 40-50 year old Morgase know how a Two Rivers accent is except if, you know, met one person from there?
  7. I don't know, I can buy it. In Brazil (where I live) there are small villages that haven't received a new wave of immigration since the 1600s. Most of the people in these villages look like a mix of the 3 main Brazilian races (Portuguese, Africans and Native Brazilians), but sometimes you see people who look more like one than the others. So you see full Black, full Native and full Portuguese looking people in small villages in the middle of the Northeastern region, sometimes in the same family! My wife and one of her sisters look like full blooded Native Brazilians even though the last Native in the genealogy tree was like, 200 years ago, and even though she's only 20% Native according to a genetic test we did for fun (23andme).
  8. Just quoting this to say that some part of fandom did react very badly, but I'm proud how the other part of fandom is slowly being aware that the text actually supports the nonwhite Two Rivers cast.
  9. There's a problem with that Robert Jordan list of actors. In the Eye of the World chapter 31 Rand remarks that he has never seen a person with yellow hair (blonde) in his life before he met Ms Grinwell, Else Grinwell's mother. The list puts Val Kilmer as Perrin. I don't know if you noticed, but Val Kilmer is blonde. If Jordan was casting whoever he wanted in his head, why write that Rand had never met a blonde person in his life and then cast a blonde actor to play Perrin, one of his closest friends? The list also has Jacqueline Bisset playing Nynaeve. Rand remarks in chapter 2, when he meets Thom, how unusual it's to see two people with blue eyes in the same day (Lan and Thom). Everybody in the Two Rivers had dark eyes, according to Rand, with him being the exception and having been bullied before due to it (by Congars and Coplins). Jacqueline Bisset has blue eyes. Again, is that list true or not? Lots of inconsistencies with the books. So, is that list true or not?
  10. I imagine them to be like this picture of the Tunisian soccer team. Notice that redhead in the middle? Tunisian. His name is Fakhredine Ben Youssef. If you ask any European they'll say that it's very easy to differentiate Tunisians or other North Africans, on average, from Europeans. But sometimes you have someone like Ben Youssef there. Anyway, I doubt the casting this time will go this way, with people who look North African as the Two Rivers people. They'll not even cast people with Southern European ancestry, like Italian Americans. They'll probably cast people from England to make the show familiar, even though the text doesn't support it that much once you get down to it.
  11. I wonder if they'll keep the part about Two Rivers people not being lily-white, race-wise. I mean, Rand says he's surprised to see someone with blonde hair for the first time in his life when he meets Else Grimwell's mother. And some people bullied him because he had grey eyes, which only peddlers or other foreigners had, no Two Rivers person had that. I wonder how the fandom will react to having lots of Latinos or Middle Easterners for the main cast, for example (not Rand, since he's clearly a foreigners, but basically everyone else in the Two Rivers).
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