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  1. I realize this is a WoT only forum so it might seem weird to bring up Harry Potter... If igure figure I already brought up Game of Thrones in some other thread.... and I'm still here which mens means its at least ok.... Um, so really I actually read Wheel of Time before Harry Potter virtually certain as a matter of fact.... and quite enjoy it.... Then harry Potter comes along and is like this massive revelation/ginormous explosion of everything.... and by the time the fervor died down it's been hard to get many other series in the spto spotlight.... Just the other day though.. for sone reason or another while reading parts of Wheel of Time I'm like wait Wheel of Time has it's own kind of magic academy.... I mean really Tar Valon vs Hogwarts their both schools for magic... almost like the public vs private schol school debate..... and essentially the debate is all about which is better and why at least in my mind since I don't know if strangely enough anyone that I've seen on the internet or anywhere has even tried to have this debate. It could be that one is good for some type of wizards ands ome the other... btu I'd like to start with the idea that one is simply better... better design better ideas better everything, better outfits lets say (or lack thereof perhaps) So here's some basic points.... Hierarchy - Hogwarts: It's definitely got the edge in terms of complex hierarchies I'd say... for starters there's multiple players first years 2nd years 3rd years... then you have rival houses and stuff Hufflepuff and Ho er Raven claw and stuff like that... and then you have perhaps even different types of wizarding pagentry and stuff connected to those things like 3rd years go to Hogsmeade ands tuff like that.... lots of crazy ideas basically like that... that make it even more clear there's a lot of regalia and h changes and ideas that go into it.... - Tar Valon: Tar Valon has a clear kinda singular sorta track system in my opinion... novice... accepted... wizard... kinda... in my opinion... sorta like that more or less... it's clear what each one means and where you are goingl... and it's just sot sorta straightforward. Infrastructure - Hogwarts: Well for starters Hogwarts is a castle... a proper European medieval castle in allr espects... you have glass windows, dark corridors... you have basically all kinds of stuff on every level that is a very serious intense thing... roman cn candles... moats.... it's all very much like that in every respect... it's basically very very lage a in a kind of manorial sort of way.... it's also very isolated and is basically in a remote region of I guess Scotland or something and you have to take an incredibly long train ride to get there because it's so far away and everrything about it is so desperate and desolate in many ways I guess from that point of view. - Tar Valon - Tar Valon by comparison is like a city-state sorta feel almost with the tower being specifically dedicated to the wizarding parts but the town around it being basically normal I guess in many ways... it's more or less just a bunch of people who are like normal and not wizards or magical and they all interact with the white tower in unique ways.... so I think that's pretty different. Also the White Tower is very litterally a tower of some kind instead ofa castle much smaller you could say probably in many ways.... More or less actually I think by comparison Tar Valon is probably considered a bit barren... like it's just sorta empty... perhaps might be the wrong term but it's hallways and corridors, rooms perhaps... not necessarily the grand illustrious traditional medieval European thing... not being insulting or anything by the way! Just comparing.... Relations witht he exterior etc. -Hogwarts - Hogwarts basically has a fairly rigid view of the whole situation... seeing it as a wizarding only community at the outskirts of everything.... and just overall has all kinds of issues I guess arguably... the ministry of magic views them as troublesome and different... they are completely invisible from muggles etc it's just one kinda crazy approach in many respects.... - Tar Valon: Tar Valon's approach to humans c by comparison is more fluid... there's a lot of give and take and infact many close connections between the White Tower and the surroudning population... for example many Aes Sedai (to use the term of course now instead of wizards) take on local companions and stuff such as with Gawyn and others it feels like ther'es overlap in many respects with just the local community, then you have proper warders like lan who are definitely connected even though Lan himself isn't really at all magical and could probably be found around Tar Valon in many respects. Ok so there's a few points... I think it might be sort of an interesting topic to talk about.
  2. The ONe power versus the True Power vs Saidin separately vs saidar separately II think it's all a bit much... Like I think what was intended is just to state that there is the source... period.... and then Saidar ie is se essentially just the source as used by women and Saidin is with w men... it can obviously be overcomplicated and stuff and I'm sure there's just ways of making it even more confusing but essentially that.... Rand's saidin sickness is because there is some kind of connection with male channeling and the source and the dark one and stuff so it all gets t boned.... That's kinda all we know... I think... For all we know there aren't any reasons why there's really like in all honesty maybe there isn't a sickness... maybe there isn't even a taint... Maybe the Dark one is just a fantastic liar and it's all presentable backstory/hearsay stuff designed to confuse everyone... I mean seriously.....
  3. I'm probably not the best expert on books I actually haven't read that many trilogies or anything.... However it seems to me that this series mie might be interesting for people and in general a diversity in the tyhpes and manners of stories available seems like it's healthy for the book industry as a whole and the sub-genres of fantasy and sci-fi as well.
  4. Well I daresay I just came across this idea and it sounds kinda cool.... One of the interesting things about WoT to me I guess is it's like just the book series.. which makes it feel very pure.... it almost seems like these days if you have figures soon people we'll be wondering those are canon in some strange way or something.... but I guess that's probably being really paranoid. I think what it really boilw boils down to though is these can be additive and interesting and cool they're just figures which people can get as a way to show being a fan. So that's nice...... Er anyway basically yeah I suppose if they're really authentic things then it probably is sort of a copyright IP thing in some way to be able to make them.... But the thing is yeah the author should be or perhaps the author's representative or perhaps both I guess can I'm almost certain get over that hurdle and yes better late than never somehow.
  5. I think it's just supposed to be part of the taint... not necessarily a part of Rand.
  6. They probably just come up with it on their own a lot... just random practice away from the crwo er crowd or something.
  7. Yes... In a practical leve l I'd have to say RJ Is the glue... the one who put a lot or really all of the pieces together from that POV...
  8. It seems kinda Warhammery/fascistly violent/over the top a bit... I haven't read them but it sounds like there's some dour and sour streaks and possibly not even I don't know it just seems kinda depressing perhaps...
  9. I'm not an expert.... definitely not the expert.... Well... lots of black? That seems like the start ... I think....
  10. Ok well as long as they make it tolerable.... As in.... it gets the stereotypical standard treatment of a fantasy novel by mainstreamy forces ... at least that could build interest and get people involved in it all.
  11. Anyway at the same time Dragonmount could be anywhere... it's not necessarily anything it's after all a books eries that depends on the author and how they put words together.
  12. Hm... This is one of those deeper analyses that happens with a lot of other series and it attracts all the Eglio er Elios and people but I think people assume in general WoT is fairly simple where I disagree completely I think the series as a whole has a lo tof genuine subtext and things like this that might have real meaning and interactions. Admidttedly I'm not great at this topic here but maybe if we encourage this then Wheel of Time can get a kind of treatment of this sort. For those wh who don't know there is 100% no Wheel of Time show happening... this is one of those hit jobs byt the elite where they go oh we show interest but it's a red wedding and they're plan is just to get the original peoiple involved invested and then suddenly it's in development heck for 10 years.... It's pretty awful really. Although come to think of it now they might make one anyway just to ... you know once the Red wedding fails have an actual wedding... kinda deal. ....yeah this is silly in some ways dangerous horrible but also and silly.... Where was I... But yeah Wheel of Time isn't strong int he way GoT was... it feels like nothing is acceptable and it's all bad because somehow it's older even though it predates Got by like 6-7 years... But posts like this show me that people then or now haven't forgotten about it/and o/or still find it interesting by moderns tandards and so I'm glad and hopefully people will analyze all things kinds of things like this.
  13. Why are we wondering about the adam is my only question... Biggest evil terrible thing... maybe not ever... but just a really bad thing... Probably best to just keep their attention to a minimum that's my approach.
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