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  1. I'm agreeing about the Purple Ajah thingy. That is just total and complete rubish. If it's not even rumored in the books, then how are we readers supposed to guess that she is in said ajah and that's why she is so secretive. Plus, what AoL stuff would they keep that would be so secretive?
  2. Oh, that spider web is a good thought. I never did think of it. And in support of the "No backwards, you have to go all the way out and all the way back". Those we've seen use the doorways go through and have to go all the way to the speakers then can go all the way back. On a side note, my girlfriend's hands are really cold and she's putting them on my stomach. But back on topic. Once they go all the way to the center, they can then go back to the entrances.
  3. See, that's what I'm wondering. I'm wondering, and I can't remember, so I was asking here, if it was a portal stone symbol or not. Also, as I recall, they did do everything in their power. They picked him up and bodily threw him out of the doorway. They could've done that before they threw the "Son of Battles" out, but they answered, then man handled him, so I'm wondering if it was something else.
  4. So here's what we know about Snakes and Foxes so far: 1 - You can't win unless you cheat. 2 - It was created for remembrance of how to deal with the 'finn (as revealed by Brigitte) 3 - Snakes are a piece shaped like a wavy line. 4 - Foxes are a piece shaped like a triangle. 5 - You open the game by making that sign and saying the words (as quoted above). 6 - When you roll for the S&F you move them towards your pieces by the shortest path possible. What we know of the 'Finns (in brief) 1 - One looks like snakes, the other like foxes 2 - Snakes answer questions, Foxes grant requests/wishes 3 - You get 3 from each (questions or wishes) 4 - Matt was able to get more than 3 questions answered somehow 5 - Foxes you must bargain for a price 6 - Worlds are funny and skewed 7 - The ToG (the silver one Slayer runs to) gives admittance to there world 8 - There is a treaty for using the doorways that you will bring no instrument for making music, nothing to make fire, and no iron. Now here are my questions, the information above is enough to show my PoV. Is the symbol that you make to open the game, the triable with a wavy line inside, the symbol on the portal stone that represents the 'finn world or just a representation of the triangle and wavy line pieces that represent the different 'finn species? The chant is a symbol, or reminder, of what you must do in order to win against the 'finn in RL. Why was it so important (other than that we know Moraine must be saved from them) that this fact is remembered? How was Matt able to get more than 3 answers out of them? They were freaking out because of the 2 ta'veren being in there at the same time, and all that, but that doesn't mean that he should get more just because they want him to leave. Mainly, though, I'm curious as to whether the 'finns are from the other worlds that exist on the wheel and can be reach via portal stone or if they are some creature made by the power when the ToG and the doorway ter'angreal were made. (edits to fix some typos)
  5. Because RJ said so, that's why :P
  6. Does it go cool when there is channeling going on around him, or when there is someone holding the True Source around him? If I remember correctly, during the big fight with the Shaido, Matt's medallion was not cold against him all day, but there was channeling going on all day long.
  7. I'd like to point out that lightning does not have to strike someone to kill them. It would be very possible for the lightning that rahvin create to have struck near Matt. This would've had the same effect. Lots of heat, a huge concussion, and the explosion from the lightning hitting the ground. That could've had all the effects on matt that were described in that scene. Rand, who's POV it is from, does not know whether or not matt was hit directly with a lightning bolt or not. He just makes a vague assumption of "I guess it doesn't work against saidin". But Rand is just guessing, he has no hard proof. We can't make the assumption that something is true just because one of the characters makes that assumption. We know that the characters don't know everything, and that they make vague statements alot (like how the women all thing men are gossips, or how all the guys think the other guys know how to deal with women, etc), so why should one assumption be taken as hard fact even when there is evidence to disprove it?
  8. You know how sometimes people talk about their children being "their blood". And how Elaida had the foretelling long, long ago that the ruling line of Andor was a key to the LB. Here's how I see it. Rand is a descendant of the ruling line of Andor and Elayne (who is daughter heir, and probably eventually queen) is also the ruling line of Andor. So we see how that foretelling is used. Now, we all know Elayne is pregnant with twins of Rand's. His blood on the rocks could mean this: Elayne goes to battle with him, of course, and is on the verge of popping. She stands up and channels for a long time, along side Rand, and it puts her into labor. She gives birth on the rocks. Rand then pushes himself even harder not only to protect his precious Elayne, who is very weak, but his 2 children as well. So the Ruling line of Andor plays several roles. 1) fighting in the last battle (Rand/Elayne). 2) Motivating the Dragon Reborn to push that final bit to protect everything he loves and achieve victory. It also fulfills the blood prophecy.
  9. At this point wasn't Selucia a Forsaken (Graendal?) pretending to be Tuon's Speaker of Truth? If so, I think it would be that he saw Selucia channel and the "forgot" what he saw. Tuon can wear the bracelet, meaning she can learn to channel, but I don't know if she's been with it long enough that she can see a woman channeling, etc. Either way, I've voting either Option 2 or 3
  10. RJ himself has said that it should have been "intuitively obvious" to anyone who had only read the series up to that point. He may have also scattered clues throughout the rest of the books, but if the entire reason is based off of things that happen after Asmo is killed, then it's not very intuitively obvious to anyone who hasn't read those books. Therefore, while they may be valid points, they cannot be considered as they are not presented before Asmo's death. My reasoning only works if you exclude things learned after Asmo is dead. I will admit that, but I'm not trying to be all inclusive. I'm trying to say "this doesn't make it intuitive for someone to solve the mystery until a book comes out and explains something 4 years later".
  11. We do not know in this point that Slayer is in the World of Dreams in the flesh. Like I said, all that is pointed out at this point is that he is like Perrin. He can enter when he is asleep. Because we don't know at this point that he enters in the flesh, there is no way to assume that he does. So using Egwene's speedy travel (which hasn't happened either at this point) as a basis cannot work. Everything that can be used as a clue must be found in the series before Asmo dies. This excludes 1) knowing Slayer enters the world in the flesh. 2) knowing Slayer takes orders from the Forsaken. 3) knowing whether or not Asmo recognizes Slayer (it was obvious from the description that he recognized his killer). With the evidence we have up to this point, my reasons are perfectly valid. Now, it may have been mentioned by Hopper that Slayer was there in the flesh. I can't remember, but I can see it as plausible. It that has been mentioned, then it removes my 1st argument, but the other 2 still stand.
  12. I'd like to point out that all of the channeling inside the castle is being done by Men. Graendal will not feel a thing. There wasn't enough destruction going on in the real world to shake the castle to its core' date=' because they fled to TAR so soon, so she may not even have had any idea everything was blowing up. For all we know, she traveled to the spot where she was supposed to meet Lanfear as was just patiently waiting for Lanfear to show up so they could go up to Rhavin and get everything started. So she's just chilling out impatiently waiting for Lanfear, maybe she wanders around a bit, but who's to say she would've felt anything with only males channeling, and runs into Asmo. *pow* he's gone, and Aviendha doesn't worry about feeling the small amount of channeling just assuming that it is an AS or Wise One somewhere close by. It's not just that Jordan may have hinted at it. It is showed in later books that Slayer can enter and exit the World of Dreams at will. But we don't know this, yet, so I will not use it as an argument. We don't know, at this point, that Slayer isn't just a male dreamer, like Perrin (Wolf-dream = male dreamer, they seem equivalent). So we'd have to assume that Slayer had to Travel via normal means to get to Caemlyn, or sent there via Gateway. From the Two Rivers, or the surrounding country (where we last saw him) and all they way to Caemlyn in a day to kill Asmo after Lanfear found him in the 'finn world and ordered Asmo killed... not likely. And Lanfear couldn't open a gateway from the 'finn world to Caemlyn on her own, or she would've just used it to leave. Also, at this point we don't know that Slayer takes orders from the Forsaken or the DO or where he gets his orders. We just know he doesn't like Perrin and wanted to scourge the Two Rivers with Trollocs, for all we know (and this is the impression I got my first read-through) Slayer is just like Fain; an evil person making their own agenda for their own reasons and able to control creatures of the Dark. With the information we have up to this point, Slayer just doesn't fit anything well enough to be considered.
  13. I'll state this again, because the debate continues, and I haven't seen any debunking or even addressing of this issue. The path to TV is warded inside the ways. We're already seen a whole bunch of shadow spawn contorted and dead along that path while we had scenes from inside the ways. Unless these wards are somehow unraveled. I don't see anyone wanting to do this any time soon, even if MS is not acting normally. So chances of the ways being used for a massive shadow spawn assault on TV in unlikely. It could be used for Darkfriend transport, but I don't see it happening with Shadowspawn.
  14. I would just like to point out that there will not be any sort of assault on TV by shadow spawn through the ways. Am I the only one that remembers in book 4 or 5 when a party is going through the ways (can't remember who is in it) and they see the shadow spawn all contorted in front of one of the bridges? Loial makes a comment saying "that's the bridge to TV. They must've put wards on it" Firstly, to move enough to make an effective attack without being discovered would draw MS like a fly to honey and they would all die. Secondly, the path to TV is warded against shadow spawn, and will kill any that try to get through. Thirdly, any large force moving through the ways, whether shadow spawn or not will have to deal with problem #1. Unless the cleansing of saidin somehow cleaned the ways too. Which I don't believe it did. I'm thinking the Seanchan. Especially because of Egwene's dream with the flame and the raven (or some bird) and interprets it as an attack upon the tower by the seanchan.
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