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Lyanna Tears

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  1. H1ammer24 Yes I can definitely see where your coming from. Nynaeve and Egwene often say negative things about men a lot. Their general attitude is of superiority. I didn't like Nynaeve and was indifferent to Egwene until Liandrian betrayal to them. Now Nynaeve is doing something besides being a B to everyone and Im getting a better sense of Egwene as a character. I LOATHE the Seanchan. What they're doing to the Aes Sedai makes my blood boil! It's taking everything in me not to look up if they ever get there Just Deserts. If I look back, I'm lost...
  2. DawnFlower Maybe we didn't read the same series. I don't remember them whining about their fate. Jon realize being a part of the Night Watch was not as easy as he thought. He was resentful of being a bastard. Tyrion didn't whine about being a dwarf or his father and sister not loving him. If anything they dealt with there lot in a admiring way. Tyrion always talk about owning your flaws so no one can use it against you. He didn't ask for Lady Catelyn to kidnap him, be tossed in a sky cell, encounter mountain clans, for his his father to put him on the frontlines of a battle or to have a bunch of other bad things happen to him. Yet you didn't read Tyrion Whining about it all the time. Mentioning he didn't ask to be Hand is not complaining. Please give me some examples. I think we have different ideas about what qualifies as whining. If I look back, I'm lost...
  3. Sabio It's more how they choose to deal. I don't know about you but to me whining is not a good quality. Yes a lot happen to them but whining about not going to change anything. Brood a bit, reflect on how good your life was before as much as you want. That is better than feeling sorry for yourself. Accept it, fight against it too but please no more "I didn't ask for this" moaning. We get it. No reminder needed ever other chapter. If I look back, I'm lost...
  4. Jordan Robert writing style is fantastic. His world is so descriptive I feel a part of it. I brought all the books only after reading the first one. It has lived up to the hype I heard about it unlike The Sword of Shannara(?) and The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant. Off to finish book 2. If I look back, I'm lost...
  5. Moraine still gave them a choice. She could've forced them. She has the power. To me she is trying to guide them. Think about how Elaida would've treated Rand and how Linandrian (Sorry if spelling is incorrect) treated him at Fal Dara. They should be wary of Moraine but at what point do they realize she is not as bad as they make her out to be? To me Moraine has helped them and unless she plans to kill them it's for the greater good. It's all about the bigger picture. If I look back, I'm lost...
  6. I'm only at the end of book 2 so my judgement is limited. Moraine is about the big picture. I understand her willingness to sacrifice the boys. Her quest is noble. It's for the greater good. Rand & Co for now are about self-perseveration. Very human though. If I look back, I'm lost...
  7. I could have written this post. Rand and Perrin are constantly thinking or saying they didn't ask for any of it. It's whining and not a attractive feature for main protagonists. What bothers me the most is how they all seem to be against Moraine even though she saved their lives repeatedly. No appreciation at all. I love the story and adventures but the characters leave a lot to be desired. Except for Moraine and Lan. They're awesome. If I look back, I'm lost...
  8. Selig while I understand they have legitimate reasons to hate their circumstances it drives me crazy because it's all three and every other chapter. That is a lot of complaining. I have to disagree about Tyrion and Stannis whining. Stannis accepts his duty and only mention a few times he never asked for it. And only then to rebuff those that would have dissuade him from it. Without a POV for inner monologue its not much. While Tyrion accepts his reality. He handle it with wit and humor. Diva I can see your point about not being excited to court danger. But the constant whining is a annoying character flaw that 3 main characters have making them one note. So far Mat is my favorite character. His funny personality and getting in trouble stands out the most IMO. My only issue with him is how quick he turned against Rand when he found out he was able to channel. A legit response but something I didn't like. Medar I'm not denying that don't have cause. It's just over the top and and unappealing in a main character. I was hoping as time went on there would be less. It doesn't stop me from loving the books. Just less drawn to them as heroes. I dislike Nynaeve and don't believe her hatred of Moraine is justified but at least she's not bemoaning about everything something go wrong. If I look back, I'm lost...
  9. I'm new to The Wheel of Time series. Fell in love with epic fantasy since reading A Song of Ice and Fire. My biggest complaint is the main male characters constant whining about their fate and how didn't want it or ask for it. I'm only on book 2 The Great Hunt. It's off putting. I'm use to way more horrible things happening to characters in ASOIAF with no woe-that is me mentality. Will Rand, Mat and Perrin continue their self-pity whining for the rest books? If I look back, I'm lost...
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