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  1. If the DO is necessary for free will, he is ultimately a force of good.
  2. Best prose writing in fantasy that I can think of off the top of my head is scribed by Ursula Le Guin... then Tolkien. Jordan does write strong prose, especially for fantasy. But, there are mistakes throughout the books that are a bit surprising. That said, I do love a book where you get both great story and great prose but I'll take story strength over prose writing strength most of the time.
  3. Although, slightly off topic, I think my favorite scene is Rand in Far Madding, using Aiel Martial Arts to kill Ashaman. Oh, RJ, for that scene alone any and all mistakes made by either you or BS are null and void in my book. Rest In Peace, man.
  4. I get what you're saying but I believe this has been the exact issue from the beginning. Whether it was presented poorly at the end of aMOL or not, I think we are presented with the truth of the WOT universe.
  5. I've thought about that, too. What stumps me a bit is that people can be or do evil things and not be darkfriends. You can be the worst of the worst and never give your soul over to the Dark One. This could be construed as the ability of humankind to turn to evil being inherent and not an effect of the DO. OR, the DO is the source of all evil, whether you're with him, against him, or neutral about the guy. If that's the case, then destroying the creator of evil and the creator of all evil thoughts and actions destroys evil. However, destroying evil also destroys choice, ironically enough creating another form of evil. This is a very Eastern way of looking at the Devil character(s) in mythology. Even Satan's first appearance in the Bible (Job) paints a different picture of him than does later recountings of him in the New Testament. In many Eastern tradition, the Satan character performs a universal function. He is a necessary evil. I believe that is the conclusion that we have to come to in the WOT universe. However, this raises questions: If the Creator is truly benign, he would give people free choice, I think. Which means, he needs the DO for his creation to have meaning. We could speculate that what humankind 'knows' about the Creator and DO in the WOT universe is incomplete - maybe, in truth, they are the same entity, maybe they are both parts of a higher 'God', maybe they are working together and humans only think there's a real battle going on. They might be like WWE wrestlers and give the crowd a performance only to go have beers together after the show.
  6. I believe the Ogier will become fresh produce moguls in the age to come as so many people are dead, and crops non-existent, they will use their talent for growing and become the greatest 'green' grocers the world has ever seen. ;)
  7. Thank you, BBM, and arghhhhhhhhh... it gets mixed up in my memory what happened exactly when... it's one of those two, though. Well, both. But, if I had to pick, one of those two.
  8. It's a hyperbolic statement by a megalomaniac with a three thousand year old grudge. It's like a tough guy talking crap before a fight and saying "You could chop of my leg and I'd still kick your ass." That's the way I read it.
  9. Which book takes place in the waste? The Shadow Rising or Fires of Heaven?
  10. I'd argue that Demandred's 10 years of AOL last battle experience is the same as another general's 30 years in a relatively peaceful land with no channelers experience. He would have marshalled darkfriends, men, and channelers to battle far superior armies - technologically and in size - than any seen in the 3rd age. However, having experience with the less technological armies of the third age may have screwed with his knowledge. As for the why didn't he just level the forces of light as he has a super sarangreal and a circle of 72 question? Well... that's a good question. I would have liked to have seen how RJ handled this for both sides. Because, basically each side has an almost unlimited supply of nukes. How do you plan a battle when the other side has tactical nukes they can set off repeatedly? I think this was an inherent flaw in the story. Using large circles to destroy should have been likened to using Balefire in its destructive force on the pattern... or something like that. Edit - i meant shadowspawn, not darkfriends in the first paragraph.
  11. Another incident in the book that will help fracture the Empire is the meeting of the Ogier Deathwatch Guard and the Ogier of Randland. At some point, they fight together. I have a feeling that the ogier of the empire might have a change of heart after lines of communication have been established.
  12. I'm not sure she was BA, but if she was, perhaps Verin didn't put her in the list because either A) she could never confirm it, or B) she had tested Alanna, as she had Cadsuanne, and felt that she was sure Alanna would end up returning to the light and/or that she could use Alanna in some way to help Rand... as a sacrifice of one of the Bond Girls or whatever. She is Verin, after all... she doesn't have to tell Egwene everything that she knows. The frustrating thing is that Alanna's motivation could be explained by being BA or not... she could have bonded Rand because she thought it would move her up in the esteem of the Shadow.... or she could just have been an overconfident, cougarish Green... she does seem "hurt" when he is bonded with other women on his own and pushes her to the back of his mind. Just a little more hinting would have been nice. Agreed. To be honest, I was more than cool with certain elements of the storyline not being summed up for us or for us never finding out, originally. Now, I find it kind of annoying after reading through 14 books, some multiple times. I started this series when I was either 16 or 17, I'm now 39. I think I deserve to know a few things, for crying out loud.
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