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Machin Shin

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  1. Please forgive me if i have misunderstood you here. But are you implying that you have fought for Al qaeda and that you support terrorists? Also the references to Christmas coming. Are you just excited about Christmas or is this some kind of insider terrorist joke about a forthcoming attack over the holiday period? This is not intended to offend, i was just wondering.
  2. Definately the Spammers - if they think that anyone on this site needs penis enhancers or help attracting women then they obviously dont know the average wheel of time reader. As for the books: It has to be the monumental obsession with describing the clothing of every character down to the most minute detail. Does anyone else get irate hearing about of the type of embroidery on the dress, how many slashes or pleats (whatever pleats are) it has, the puffiness of the arms, the cut of the cleavage (maybe i'll allow that one)the type of pearls in the hair, who actually gives a f*ck about what shoes a character is wearing!?
  3. i might be missing a very obvious answer and feel free to tell me what an idiotic question this is. Here goes anyway. How come when the Forsaken are reborn after being killed they are automatically in adult bodies? Are they not literally reborn?
  4. Dont get me wrong, I have enjoyed the books immensely but i have now reached the point where i just want it all to end and if i dont get some closure i will personally assassinate robert jordan and his entire family.
  5. Correct me if im wrong, but if more men like you Crazymike (the vietnam vet who never saw any combat) had 'fought' in World War II then wouldnt we have come to the same conclusion. How about you learn to spell and stop talking crap. I dont know about anyone else, but I rather like the idea of 'sheathing a sword' through Crazymike's head.
  6. Could racha_giurgiu and jellybelly please direct all future comments to the junk-mail section of this site? Actually, they are not even worthy of the spam section. Please keep them to yourself.
  7. Point one: The purpose of the thread was to see how other people rated the forsaken, not to have my opinion criticised. Like I said, it is my opinion. I didn’t say it was right, it’s just the way I see it. If you haven’t got the imagination to do anything other than to find fault with other peoples points of view, then don’t bother posting a reply. Point two: If you are going to belittle my opinion, at least have the common sense to make sure your point is valid. 1st example: Hmm that’s interesting, isn’t that statement completely wrong, why yes, I believe it is. What the hell are you talking about!? Read that statement again, and again, now again and keep reading it until it sinks in to your thick head that Mesaana hadn’t even been introduced to the story at that point. Elaida was the central figure in the splitting of the Tower. 2nd example: Well yes, maybe we should make him Nae'blis based on that fact alone. Or hang on a minute, maybe not. Considering he has absolutely no loyalty to the Dark One and changes sides as soon as he sees he has lost. Also teaching Rand i.e. the enemy, everything he knows hardly the most admirable contribution when considering his achievements as one of the Forsaken. 3rd example: Aginor has been killed twice in the series, once by himself and once by someone on his own side. Now to save u reading the whole thread, which u clearly haven’t done. I said: Now I don’t know about anyone else, but to me that pretty clearly states that I am giving him credit based on the things that you have mentioned. Well done. 4th example: This comment has no relevance to the aim of this thread whatsoever. I am trying to ascertain who has made the most valuable contributions to the Dark One's cause and therefore their eligibility for the title of Nae'blis. Giving information to the enemy because you have been captured surprisingly is not considered a valuable contribution. Like I said reading the question does help.
  8. The Forsaken are a quarrelsome bunch; always scheming and competing for the title of Nae'blis. We know the Dark Lord is a busy being. The destruction of the Wheel and the unravelling of the very fabric of reality, afterall, is no one man job. Therefore I have decided to help the big guy carry the burden. If the Forsaken were placed in a league, who and based on what attributes and achievements, would be the frontrunners for the top spot and who would languish at the bottom of the heap wallowing in their own self-loathing? Obviously some of the contenders have been balefired out of existence. So for the purposes of this question we must assume that they are all alive and well. Mine in order are: 1. Ishamael (Moridin) - Highlights of a long and illustrious career include the founding of the Black Ajah, starting The Trolloc Wars and the War of the Hundred years to name but a few. Left a serious impression on Rand at Falme. He was, however, defeated by Rand with Callandor. I cant see any of them surviving that, thus it does not have a detrimental effect on his ranking. A record of achievement that speaks for itself, and in my opinion makes him the Numero Uno of the Forsaken. 2. Semirhage - Now everyone loves a sadistic maniac who tortures people to death for fun. For me, she is the only character who radiates pure fear and would be top, but for the high work rate of Ishamael. Burning off Rand's hand and slaughtering the majority of the Seanchan Blood are weighty accomplishments by anyone's standards. Being captured, however, is a big no-no. That little mishap aside, the Lady of Pain has performed exceptionally. And i cant see her remaining a prisoner for long. 3. Demandred - Great general. Very strong in the Power. Second only to LT. He has made little direct progress. Which may be a good move, considering the aforementioned point. He does have potential, and i can see big things for him in aMoL. Particularly the fact that he must be masquerading as Taim. Therefore the forecast for his future is bright. 4. Rahvin - Nice moves. The ability to enslave entire nations through Compulsion and manipulation can only be a good thing. Managed to kill Mat Aviendha and Asmodean. Again, top marks. Being balefired, and all evidence of your work and general existence being erased, does surprisingly have a negative impact on his final ranking. 5. Be'lal - Kicking Rand's a$$ in a swordfight=good. Being balefired out of the pattern=bad. 6. Lanfear (Cyndane) - Saved by the fact that she is the strongest female. She has never utilized any of the numerous oportunities she has had to kill Rand. Pretty inneffectual due to her obsession with LT. 7. Sammael - Although he is strong. I cant see that hes accomplished all that much. Scattering the Shaido in order to damage Rand's reputation is hardly an epic achievement. Then getting balefired whilst being eaten by Mashadar is poor by anyones standards. 8. Balthamel (Aran'gar) - The only transexual of the group. Which is always a plus. He/she has comeback from an appalling start in tEotW to successfully infiltrate Egwene's camp. Job well done. 9. Aginor (Osan'gar) - Litterally burned himself to ash in tEotW (not clever) only to return and get killed by a darkfriend Aes Sedai (the word moron springs to mind) Pathetic as he is in combat, he does actually make up for these inadequesies with his work in the creation of Shadowspawn, a huge contribution to the DL's cause. 10. Moghedien - Numerous schemes have come to nothing. Points for effort though. 11. Graendal - Strength in Compulsion we like, doing absolutely nothing, we no like. So much potential, so little action. 12. Mesaana - Has kept a pretty low profile throughout the series. Which also translates to: is a complete waste of space and has achieved less than nothing. 13. Asmodean - Utterly worthless as far as being one of the 'Chosen' is concerned. Achieved nothing, was a coward while achieving nothing.
  9. Past or present! is there any examples of how the forsaken are in combat? - i cant remember any.
  10. If you had the common sense to read the question it says past or present (did you miss that part!) The statement was made based on the assumption that both combatants would have all their limbs in tact.
  11. i think tam would be a contender - i definately think he could take rand.
  12. It would be utter genius if loial turned out to be a darkfriend. He could end up killing someone really close to rand e.g. min, elayne or avienda. Or pretty much anyone of his choosing, considering no one would ever suspect him. Imagine the if hed been biding his time, just waiting for the most devastating moment to pounce.
  13. Thanks, so its only ever been home to women who can channel? not men?
  14. isnt selucia just tuons maid or whatever the seachan have? i cant remeber her actually doing anything apart from glaring at people.
  15. this mite sound a dumb but when was the white tower founded? was it before of after the breaking?
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