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  1. I personally felt the ending was perfect. There are no real endings (except Rand's)- the last battle happened and then it ends. A new age begins. The characters that live on undoubtedly start new stories - that is a given. Any tidy wrapping up of each story line to me would be a disappointment. I personally thought it was well written - and my own curiosity about the characters is allowed to fill in gaps, as it should be. No final book in a series has ever satisfied me as much - so many authors try to wrap everything in a tidy little bow. It is fitting to me that in a world we never got to fully explore even over the course of 14 books, we would not get a tidy summation. As for issues of writing style/word usage that broke some people out of their immersion - I didn't experience it to be honest. I can certainly look back and say wow this was said too much or that was said too much - but I was looking to enjoy this book and so I did. RJ had his own favorite words and phrases, but I managed to look past those too. It would be very hard for me to read anyone if I let the overuse of a few words bother me...
  2. I disagree. On Love: There were plenty of moments where love played a major role on screen Perrin searching for Faile.... Berelain and Annoura and Galad.... Mat and Tuon's relationship (honestly, its a different kind of love but that's how real love is between people - its not always weeping and golden streams of light and all that junk), the growing relationship between Pevara and Androl which was fantastic, the moments between Rand and Aviendha etc etc. There were plenty of heartwrenching moments and they all had to do with Love ... but yes the focus of this book was Sacrifice (which is part of Love) and that to me was the powerful message in the book. Life without sacrifice, without suffering, is life without real love, without real choice - empty and lifeless like Rand's world without the Dark One - that was this book's message for me - that love is not all roses and happiness and a raging sea of emotion but is more about duty and sacrifice and making the difficult choices and noble sacrifices - Love IS about doing. Rand tried to take that away from everyone, wanted to take it all on himself, because of his love. But so did everyone else in the story. As for Egwene's death - she died taking out Taim and one of the most powerful sa'angreal ever, and saving the world from annihilation by Balefire. I would say that's a pretty big foe and accomplishment. I cried during this book more than any other that I've read in a long time. I had tons of emotional fulfillment in it, and am sorry you didn't have the same experience.
  3. Just finished, truly loved it. Laughed, cried (multiple times, have headache - and I don't often cry) and felt truly satisfied about how it all wrapped up. All questions were not answered - as it should be for a world as large as this one. It is not for one man to know all things about a world, not even Robert Jordan, and certainly not me the reader.
  4. I thought it was great. Truly great. Enjoyed every minute of the last 20 hours I spent reading the book. Hope everyone else at least got a small measure of the enjoyment I did! Most satisfied I've been with the end of a series ever, and I've read a lot of series.
  5. Ah well, can't please everyone: My take on this is simply that Luckers and others saw this as a chance for them to put their own stamp on the Wheel of Time - they had been reading this series closely, imagining the ending, looking for foreshadowing and closely watching characters for decades and this was the chance to have their vision of the series fulfilled. When BS and the rest of Team Jordan didn't allow them the access that had hoped for and expected, it was a huge disappointment. I would feel the same, if I were in their shoes. However, I have greatly enjoyed BS's take on the WoT. While his take on the characters is at times different than mine, at times the same, I find it a refreshing and welcome breath of air to a series that had, under Jordan's watch, been stale for me at times. Even writers that finished their own series are greatly denigrated for not following the visions we had created, If one looks to the ends of any epic series it is easy to see that it is simply not possible to please everyone. So perhaps BS's end of the WoT would not have been Jordan's - or mine - or Luckers'... but it is AN ending. And for that, I am thankful.
  6. I picked up the Eye of the World at the age of 10 to try to be more like my cool older brother. Now I'm 32, and my 12 year old nephew is looking forward to the next book as eagerly as I.... Except he hasn't had to wait a ridiculous amount of time: lucky little bastard.
  7. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Mat could be convinced that collaring Marath'damane is better than having channelers wandering loose. As much as he sees himself as a protector of people, including Aes Sedai or channelers, he could easily be convinced that people need protection from channelers. If he spent time with damane and sees them as happy and content in their positions, I could believe that he may be convinced that long term the Seanchan way is for the best. Of course, that would be a slow transition, so I don't expect it over the course of this book. If there were going to be outrigger novels I would fully expect it. This particular quote is almost definitely Mat saying he will deal with them in the same way he has dealt with Aes Sedai in the past: perhaps he will spank their bottoms? Also, I expect it is Mat talking to a Karede or Musenge or someone of similiar rank in a command spot of the Seanchan armies.
  8. My first thought is Bashere and a ter'angreal that protects him from Zen Rand's presence, including the light that blinded Torkumen and drove him insane. I never bought into the Bashere is a darkfriend theory because he was around Rand so much, but this could make it possible. Second thought was a mundane, Rand has an angreal or Sa'angreal.
  9. Stormlight for me. Really loved Way of Kings.
  10. Well, if you were immortal but spent 99% of all time locked in a box... wouldn't you want to stop the cycle? The wheel itself is his enemy, in times past when he has 'won' the wheel just spins out some new hero and a new set of circumstances and he is eventually back in his prison. Such is the nature of the wheel of time. Which reminds me of something I've thought before... Mat is often referred to as having the Dark One's own luck. The Dark One seems to have pretty terrible luck as far as I can tell, I mean the entire world is out to get him and his followers are all relatively incompetent. I mean, a man who is several thousand years old and much stronger than Rand can't find a better way to convert him or kill him than he does in the first 3 books? Clearly Mat's luck is the Creators own luck, as far as I can tell.
  11. Elayne did give him the court bardship and forgave him for crimes 'known and unknown' in Andor. He wondered to himself who told her. I assumed that was referencing the Taringail thing. Though you would think it would merit more discussion and perhaps not such a warm welcome.
  12. Robert Jordan did confirm that a myth from the age before the Age of Legends about 'Lenn, who travelled to the moon in the belly of a fiery eagle' was a reference to John Glenn.
  13. I assumed this was in the first moments while it was still forming, when the link can still fail. I thought the Aviendiah scene was fine - perhaps a little over the top but nothing too jarring for me. And even RJ had them really over the top in one scene and then pretty normal in the next sometimes. The Androl/Pevara scene felt very RJ to me and was overall pretty well done. Though frankly the entire chapter feels weird to me just because I've only listened to maybe one audiobook ever... don't like the format much.
  14. Indeed it does, no doubt about that - I've already referred to the seanchan several times in my posts. But how do the guardians 'balance' the servants, things are balanced when they are on opposite sides. If the guardians strengthened the servants or doubled or emboldened or whatever then the interpretation would be clear. Also, if it was But instead of And, it would be clear that the balance was seanchan vs aes sedai/ashaman... instead it seems to imply an opposition to me. And yes, Tommy, I happen to think this prophecy supports the idea that Avi's vision comes true. I like the concept of internal balance, but I think the 'and' in the prophecy gives a sense that the second half of the sentence echoes the sentiments of the first. So the land is divided by the return, and the guardians and servants are divided - but balance each other. This could come true by them fighting after the last battle, or by most aes sedai being captured while Egwene is at the FoM as you mentioned. Anyway, it's just an option, I like to have multiple ways of reading things.
  15. First off it's "guardians balance the servants" there is no out. The most likely scenario is they join together. Not sure why you would get fighting out if that. Oh strange, my bad... I swear when I looked it up I read balance out. Well then... oops. I still think there is an implication of fighting, simply because the prophecy is about the world being 'not yet done with battle.' If they joined they wouldn't Balance each other, they would double each other or strengthen each other. 'The future teeters on the edge of a blade' - invoking the balance metaphor again, this time in a clear negative 'it could go one way, Or the other' kind of way.
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