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bustycops1987

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  1. The complex world and characters is definitely WoT biggest strength. There's so much depth, descriptions, and attention to detail it almost feels like non-fiction. The flaw I think is that by the middle of the series there was so many characters and subplots it bogged the series down. Books 1-5 you might get a Darkfriend or an Aes Sedai POV to flesh things out and then back to the main plot. By book 8+, many readers actually cared what happened to Gawyn, Siun, Berelain, Elayne etc to the point that it killed the pacing where every time Perrin got a POV you also had to include Faile, the Ai
  2. Please see what the mod posted in his Op of this thread. As for the Black Tower, I believe that I would have preferred for the events inside the Black Tower to have been included in either TGS, or TOM. Another small gripe which I have about the Black Tower is that even when RJ was still writing the books, we did not get many scenes actually inside the Black Tower causing me to care very much, one way or the other, about the asha'man who were living and training there. The vast majority of scenes involving asha'man were outside of the Black Tower and were with those whom were
  3. Don't forget that time distorts in Shayol Ghul, the entire last battle happened over days and weeks, but to Rand it had been barely and hour. Mixed with the fact that Rand had the ter'angreal dagger that hid him from the shadow until the last moment (and thus disrupting even Lanfears' ability to find ta'veren) you sort of end up with a paradoxical situation where Rand was already fighting the DO days possibly weeks before Demandred even had lead his army to attack Randland. Add in Demandreds' irrational hatred and obsession with Rand and his suspicion that Rand was secretly hiding/leading the
  4. It just struck me when I reread Winters Heart that the entire book lowballed the hell out of A'dam in order to let the Sea Folk escape. In the end of The Great Hunt, for example, Nynaeve comments about how Eqwene didn't try to escape, Eqwene explains how even after she figured out how to unclasp it yet touching the clasp with the intention of opening it forced her hand to knot up. Fast forward to chapter 31 of Winter's Heart and that apparently doesn't exist anymore. The Seanchan always felt way too perfect and indomitable in the first books anyways, but books 8-11 really do seem to un
  5. Without Gawyn that whole big Forsaken tower plot falls on it's face. Now you can of course get into the explanations about how coincidences and tiny unrelated actions are a driving force behind the narrative for any part of the series. The fact Gawyn helped kidnap Rand, kept Siuan from being rescued, and acts like a spoiled child makes him incredibly unpopular to the reader already, but then Egwene ignores all of that on top of falling in love with him sort of necessitates at least a little bit of an 'Whaa- why how?' reaction.
  6. I picture Trollocs as just generic Tolkien orcs, I know they have the insane super-height and bulk plus varied animal parts but just in all the battle scenes with thousands of them running about that description fails me and I just picture generic humany orc bad guys. I screwed up a lot of my Seanchan/Aiel images too. Since the Aiel not having dark hair/complexion is just so at odds with how I would picture any nomadic type arid people, and some of the first descriptions of Seanchans I really remember were off that Mor guy and stuff who had blonde hair so I just immediately tagged that ent
  7. It stands to reason that if Semirhage was able to wipe out the Seanchan court in Seandar, that basically any random Asha'man could be doing with the same thing with more success. Even if they weren't as strong as Semirhage I'm not even entirely sure any Damane could ward against Asha'man gateways or block their channeling so that any random towns, garrisons, etc weren't immediately being leveled by fireballs and lightning bolts. Although besides Semirhage no one else in the series has really shown that kind of ingenuity into realizing how incredibly deadly a weapon traveling is, and no one
  8. By the time Perrin was even in a position to deal with Masema properly there were so many other armies in the field even if Perrin or Rand hadn't been busy with other things it wouldn't much have mattered. Even if you ignore Forsaken/Dark One plots and issues dealing with the power, Masemas' ragtag band of 10-20,000 was still less dangerous and influnetial than basically every other army on the field (i.e. Shaido, Seanchan, Tear Rebellion, etc) Now a lot could be said for gateways since Perrin and company could have conceivably solved both the Faile and Masema issues with a few quick gatew
  9. I think in general it sort of just depends on how you picture the stuff. In general though I think quivers were more then mentioned often enough for it not to be oversight when they weren't. I always pictured them with bow and quiver, even if every Two Rivers / Aiel mention didn't have a laundry list description of all their specific gear. It still happened often enough with quivers being mentioned that you know it wasn't some huge oversight if all that stuff wasn't listed every single time.
  10. I can actually respect the Mat-Tuon matchup since rather come out of the blue, the whole daughter of the nine moons thing was shadowed well in advance and was a major part of Mats character development. Tallanvor and Gawyn might get my vote since their characters are so one-dimensional but I think their Romances were more just fan service than anything else (The chivalrous knight always get their women, a predominantly young male readerbase almost guarantees it is so). Perrin and Faile for sure though. That whole relationship would have been way better without Failes' jealousy, and if
  11. The White Tower as an institution has always sort of reminded me of the Imperial France from the mid 1800s. It's entire reputation merely pulled from predecessors. Their military, for example, was supposedly unrivaled in terms of innovation with their military leaders having a reputation as brilliant tacticians with a tendency for daring tactics. The reality was it was outdated with stuffy unremarkable nobles who took risk avoidance to a fault. But in the same way the second empires' reputation wasn't trashed until they got whipped in the Franco-Prussian war, the White Tower is seen as all-kno
  12. Well Rand is steadfastly against harming women, more than he has to anyways, which more than accounts for why he wouldn't just go crazy with violence after Alanna's bonding. Also bonding didn't exist in the Age of Legends so even Lews Therin was shocked and surprised by it, which is sort of important since the Lews Therin voice in Rands head was while crazy pretty much a driving force for all of Rands channeling violence. There are plenty of times Rand ignores his inane requests for violence/murder, but I don't remember Rand ever being angry or upset unless the Lews Therin voice was too.
  13. I just write the romance issue off as being a consequence of the absurdly large cast of characters, and stick to filling in the blanks with my own imagination. Which is actually not a bad solution since for stuff like Gawyn/Eqwene it is implied throughout the series that they knew each other from off-page events. In some of the earlier books it's implied Gawyn was around his sister and Eqwene quite often during their training in the White Tower. Also RJ was sort of really bad at writing female characters. Better than most fantasy writers by far but still pretty shallow and unrealistic if
  14. I've recently reread the entire series, and one thing really jumped out me this time is that at times the characters or series itself doesn't factor in the ramifications of how long people are living. Like if Elayne goes through Eqwenes process of receding her oaths and 'retires' as Aes Sedai she'll live to be well over 500-800+ years long with her strength in the power., yet half her POVs as queen have her making quips about what would be good for the succession when by all accounts with her strength in the power that won't matter for centuries (since even if her kids can channel her own
  15. I have, much of the 'theory' seems to be based on distorting things Bashere has said or thought. As far back as page 3 it boiled down to back and forth about Bashere being a darkfriend because of the fierceness of Rands' gaze. The fact many of Rands' companions are at times frightened or concerned by his looks or use of the power isn't in the same vein as the way darkfriends are seemingly flushed out and harmed. Besides with regards to most of the viewings and dreams throughout the series it's been painstakingly obvious of their meanings. At least to the point that the reader knows th
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