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DaoineSidhe

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  1. While holding the original foxhead medallion, one could still channel and it would not melt weaves directed into it. It is only when it is touching the skin of someone, and weaves originating from someone else that the weaves are "melted"
  2. I don't necessarily know if Osan'gar was insane, but he was under immense pressures. Rand uncovered and trapped or caused the death of every other Forsaken to try and stay hidden near him. When you think of how Rand chose Dashiva right after Dumai's Wells, it would be enough to make anyone become a little paranoid and start muttering to themselves. Once you start looking for it, RJ left little hints in almost every scene where Dashiva is present as to who he really was. For me, his death at the Cleansing of the Taint was one of the saddest moments in the book, because I had grown to really like his character during re-reads. Although, to be fair, he had already rebelled against Rand, so future little comic hints as to his true personality wouldn't have been very feasible, so I guess I'm OK with it.
  3. Dashiva is probably one of my favorite characters because of the re-reads. The first time though, you're just confused by why this seemingly half-mad Asha'Man is acting like he knows more about the One Power than Rand. Could you imagine how he must have felt when Rand randomly chose him to be a part of the group that stays with Rand after Dumai's Wells. He gets me laughing during every re-read haha.
  4. I think Verin was somewhat playing both sides with the gift of the ring to Egwene. Pro-Light: She's a "coerced" Black Ajah, and has few options with which to fight against her sister's without being discovered. She come's across a ter'angreal that no one else knows exists. This is a tool that can enable Egwene to foil so many plot's by the Shadow. Think of what would have happened if Verin HADN'T given it to her... Pro-Shadow: By keeping back some of the notes, and Egwene ends up getting caught, and used per the original plan, then Verin can say she gave it to Egwene without the notes to help make her an easy target for the Shadow. Also a possibility is that she was instructed by Bel'al to give the ring to Egwene as part of the plan to capture the Wondergirls to use against Rand.
  5. Could also refer to Moridin picking up the blade when Rand's drops it in the heart of Shayol Ghul. And Moridin's body is what now "follows after" Rand's original body's death.
  6. Mat's nadir: Being carried into Tar Valon unconscious and hours/days from death, and having to be healed by Aes Sedai Mat's zenith: His rescue of Moraine from the ToG, and more specifically his giving up his eye to get her back. Not just rescuing an Aes Sedai (which he does more so than anybody else in the entire series, ironically), but actually sacrificing a part of himself to accomplish a goal for the greater good. Everything else he does after that is his post-zenith pinnacle, doing what we always knew he could Perrin's nadir: 1a: Finding out that his whole family was dead. 1b. almost freezing to death in the cold when Faile was kidnapped, and having to be saved by Berelain Perrin's zenith: Forging the Hammer. No question. It is his own epiphany similar to Rand's on Dragonmount Rand's nadir: 1a: Being locked in the box by Elaida's Aes Sedai. 1b: Almost killing Tam 1c: almost falling to the Shadow again following Egwene's death. There wasn't enough time given to it, but I could have seen it being a better nadir if there was enough time to really dwell on it Rand's zenith: Dragonmount epiphany Egwene's nadir: damane time in tGH. It haunted her for the rest of her life Egwene's zenith: 1a: Seanchan raid on the White Tower. 1b: Her defeat of Mesaana in TAR 1c: Discover of the "anti-balefire" weave, followed by her blaze of glory death Nynaeve's nadir: Difficult to determine. While she has many low points, none ever really seem rock bottom. Except possibly how she felt when Moraine told her she could channel, but not sure... Nynaeve's zenith: The testing for the shawl. She finally discovered what she was made of, and who she was and what her purpose was. It was hard on her, true, but her resolve following the test in her conversation with Egwene really showed how far she's come Thom's nadir: Discovering Dena's body in their rooms in tGH. Could also possibly be the only nadir that is before the series, with Owyn's death Thom's zenith: 1a: Seizing Moraine out of her prison in the ToG. 1b: Composing the Last Battle Ballad on the slopes of Shayol Ghul. While I'm not sure how much I liked his self discussion on vocabulary, it is a scene where you get to see all his skills at work. He's composing a Ballad, the most epic ballad ever, not 20 feet away from the most important battle, using his Game of Houses skills to notice that the Black Ajah sister's are not who they appear, and his slight of hand to kill them. Moraine's nadir: So difficult. It most definitely NOT her plunging through the gateway with Lanfear, or what followed. She understood that situation, and made her choice, the RIGHT choice. Possibly her battle with Aginor in tEotW, where she is trounced. Otherwise Rand's running away in the beginning of tDR maybe? Moraine zenith: Her arrival on the Fields of Merrilor. She basically shows up, and makes sure there is the Dragon's Peace, and that Egwene will break the seals. Lan's nadir: Moraine plunging through the gateway with Lanfear. Very VERY VERY few warders survive those after-effects. Granted he might not have without the bond passing to Myrelle, but then again, Lan's force of will and sense of duty are maybe the strongest of all the characters. Lan's zenith: "Sheathing the sword" to kill Demandred
  7. Numbness..... I don't know how to feel.... It is over... There won't be any new journeys to the Wheel of Time. It may keep on turning, but it will do so without me getting to look in on its turnings to see what happens... The constant tension of continuous battle throughout the book was fairly good, although I do feel like we didn't get to see any of the main characters resolve or deal with any of the consequences of what happened throughout the last book because of its frenetic pace. The plot of turning the "great Captains" against the Light was without a doubt the most brilliant move the Shadow made throughout the entire series. I just wish it didn't require so much build up in description of battle tactics to pull off. I don't dislike the way it was handled, or really think that plot could have been shortened and still be effective, but now that I'm done with the series, I feel like I didn't get to see any of the main characters deal with the end of the Last Battle, or the consequences resulting from it. I almost felt like I was reading a history of the Last Battle by Loial, son of Arent, son of Halan. I'm glad I got to see how it ended, but I never felt like I was in the characters heads and experiencing what the were as I felt in the rest of the series. Numbness... That's really the best word to describe how I feel. tWoT is over as a literary series, and i will need weeks if not months to truly come to grips with that. For all the growing pains, faults, and problems resulting from having a different author finish the series than Robert Jordan, I am still very thankful that Team Jordan found a way to bring this ending to us, warts and all. Was it everything I hoped for? No. Were there things that I think should have, and reasonably could have, been done better? Gods yes! But for all that, the Wheel continues to turn, and I am extremely thankful and joyous that I got to see how those three farm boys from the Two Rivers played out their final moments as ta'veren. I may not get to see new stories of the Wheel, but I can always return there by opening up these books, and Rand, Matt & Perrin will continue to be important people in my life forever more, no matter how the Wheel Turns.
  8. Dain Bornhald is one of the more interesting minor characters in WoT for sure. I think he shows the overall trajectory of the Children of the Light better than any other character in the series. From his intimidating beginning, to his drunken almost complete self-destruction, to his self-realizations about the contradictions in his life, and finally his redemption, his life is a microcosm of that of the entire Children of the Light. He is one of the characters that have caused me in recent weeks to wonder what a book series would be like that took place during the same time as WoT, but only followed minor characters, and none of the grand ones (at least no main character PoVs). In my final re-read of the series, including aMoL, I found myself quite often wondering what it must have been like for the rest of the people of Randland while this entire series has been going on, and that it would have been quite interesting to see this story told through their eyes and minds, not through those of the ta'veren boys and Wondergirls (at least told primarily through them).
  9. Such true thoughts you have stated B-Honcho. This is the first WoT book that I did not read within days of release. I finished my original "pre-aMoL" re-read about a month and a half prior to its release. However, as its release came closer and closer, I just couldn't come to grips that this epic series was ending. So what did I do? On release day, I started a slow re-read of the entire series (in the past I've read the WoT series 2-3 times a year), and have only finished aMoL last night. I am glad that I took the time to re-read the series one more time, although I am saddened that now when I've made my way back to Dragonmount it appears that the activity has fallen sharply (to be expected, I suppose, after the end of such an epic series). Many of the people I enjoyed discussing issues with on Dragonmount right before aMoL's release seem to be absent from it these days, either from conflicts over writing quality drama, or because the series is over. That being said, do prepare yourself for an epic journey when you do finally dive into this final installment of the most epic series ever. I can't say that I loved the writing of the book, or how it all played out, but there are some truly gem moments, and for better or worse, gives a (mostly) fitting end to the series. The series is over, and I don't know how to feel except numb. I know I will continue to re-read the series in the upcoming years, and that I am truly glad that I received an ending to the story. Was it everything I hoped it would be? No. But it did give me the answers I NEEDED to know to have an adequate end to the series, and the suspense throughout the book was good enough that I enjoyed the ride. My only regret is that because of my delay I didn't get to enjoy the reactions of this final book with the online WoT fan community as none of my RL friends have any interest in reading WoT. Oh well, such is life.
  10. It boggles my mind why some publishers act so anti-e-book. I understand some of their fears, but I mean, the writing is on the wall, and if they don't do something to try and use e-books to their advantage, they will end up sharing similar fate as Newspapers. Personally, I like to read my first time through on a paper copy, but for subsequent re-reads I usually use an e-reader on my phone. It also doesn't bother me as much about when the e-book goes on sale because, if I own a paper copy, I can have a digital copy as well, and will download from an outside source. The formatting isn't as clean, but hey.
  11. @Logoth: I'm fairly certain that Leigh Butler got authorization from Tor, or Team Jordan, etc. to do her pre-release review. That is why its one of the the few pre-release reviews out there.. I don't think Luckers has that same authorization to do so here. Some ideas on the hint: -I wonder about opening fireworks, etc., and exposing the contents to air rumor that has so far seemed to be a mistake to the characters (Mat opens a couple in tDR) could turn out to actually happen in aMoL. I believe the BWB mentions this rumor about fireworks as well, but can't seem to find my copy at the moment for confirmation..
  12. Personally I found Mat in tGS, especially his first chapter in tGS, to be quite "off". For the most part I have enjoyed BS's writing of WoT, and been pleased with the results. But that first chapter of his in tGS is the reason I am back on DM after I had taken a many year break from the site. Mat's always been a bit of a complainer, and vehemently denies publicly what the reader knows to be true, but I think BS took those aspects of Mat's personality and magnified them to the point where his Mat sounded like a caricature of himself. BS certainly improved on Mat in ToM, although I cringe hard-core anytime I re-read his "letter" to Egwene, because I'm almost insulted by the way Mat's intelligence is written in that passage (yes, yes, it has since been shown that this letter was "sarcastic", but it the whole thing just seemed off to me). Back to the OP topic though: A couple I haven't seen posted on here: -When Mat wakes up in the White Tower in tDR after being healed of the Shadar Logath Dagger. He wakes up, and in comes Suian and Leane, and Mat immediately tries to say that he'll be on his way, and thanks for the healing, etc., and he is barely able to stand up. Then later when Suian asks him if he remembers the Horn, he's like "what Horn?". That entire sequence makes me laugh. -Matt getting ambushed by the Aiel on the rooftop of Tear in tDR. "What are you doing here?" "Oh, I don't know, I'm just out for a stroll.." -Mat's removal of his throwing knives before the Wise Ones before entering Rhuidean
  13. So, suttree, are you going to be doing an early review once you've read the book?
  14. I tend to agree, but when I re-read that section, it seemed really strange how Moiraine spends all this time talking about Perrin and channeling together. If I were going to bet on one of the bigger characters starting to channel all of a sudden, I'd definitely go with Thom.
  15. Moiraine dieing again would give me little feeling toward her character. She was suppose to be dead for the last 7 books we already accepted that she died, even tho it was heavily foreshadowed otherwise. Why would you want moiraine to come back and then just die again? seems pointless. Its like getting gandalf killed at the battle helms deep we already thought he died why kill him again? it feels odd to me that so many people want her character to die. I hate that Gandalf came back, and continued to live and be such a pivital character in LotR. One of JRR Tolkien's biggest mistakes in writing LotR IMO. So yes, I would have LOVED to see him bit it at the battle of Helms Deep, or at some other point in the story. The problem with saying "Moiraine was dead and gone for 7 books" is that we were given hints almost immediately that she'd be back. Did anyone really think she was gone for good? She has some important final bits to give to Rand before the end, but in the end, her time is past, and its time for her to go, IMO.
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