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Oh I don't believe that he tried to paint her in a negative light just so he could kill her off in the slightest.
Just pointing out that Brandon wrote more parts than what you seem to think in the epilogue. Sleeping is absolutely correct. You may want to dig a bit deeper into the interviews. Important to note we have seen stories on who did what consistently evolve/change throughout this whole process. AS answers indeed. Even in your post you seem to to not be sure as you say "no ambiguity" and then "almost all". That leaves an opening for other pieces to be done by Brandon. Further if you are "sure" about the Tam portion where he mentions Egwene perhaps you could back it up with the author quote saying that is the case?
Of course I don't know any of them personally and I took Brandon and Team Jordan's word on it. I read the twitter answers and there didn't seem to be any ambiguity in what they said with regards to the Epilogue. This is what I found from theory land where they compiled few of the question answer sessions -
Robert Jordan wrote the entire epilogue.
Almost all. There were a few small inserts by me. Perrin was mine in the epilogue.
I would like to know, how much of the last chapter was written by RJ and how much did you do?
I did Perrin and some of the in-between writing with Loial. RJ did Mat, Rand, scene exiting the mountain, and others.
There are places where I tweaked bits, per editing, and places where I slipped in things he'd written to my sequences.
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I gather from the above that Tam's funeral scene was not edited by Brandon and therefore Egwene's death was intended by RJ. Of course I can't know anything for certain but this is what I inferred.
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She can see other people's future but not her own. She hardly did anything throughout the series...
Uhmm what? You mean aside from giving Rand the crucial piece of information needed to defeat the DO?
Killing Egwene off was pointless and may have been decided by RJ based on negative feedback from fans. He clearly wrote the end with egwene's funeral being mentioned in the epilogue and did intend her to die. I just think it was sad and pointless and I'm really disappointed.
RJ wouldn't have made that decision based on negative feedback from the fans. Further as stated Brandon added a number pieces beyond those you mention to the epilogue as well, so your point above is moot.
Yes Min did help Rand with the info. Like I said, she is likable but from a character development point of view there was hardly any time spent on her. Faile had more character development with her time at the Shaido camp. Min has always been in the background and pretty much constant. This obviously doesn't make her expendable but if he had to kill someone Min would have been less of a waste compared to someone like Egwene who went through a lot of hardship in the last 3 books at least.
As for the Epilogue, Brandon and Team Jordan have specifically said with no ambiguity that almost all of the epilogue was written by RJ except perrin and Loial's POV that Brandon wrote. I am sure RJ would have at least written Tam's POV at Rand's funeral and in there Tam mentions Egwene. I refuse to believe that RJ tried to paint Egwene in a negative light all along just so that he could kill her off in the end. If this was the case, he definitely failed since she doesn't come off as that negative at all especially with all her achievements in the last few books.
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I know they made statements suggesting RJ wrote everything but the Cadsuane POV, but Brandon later admitted to writing other parts as well. As I said before...they're very good at giving Aes Sedai answers.
RJ definitely intended Egwene's death since Tam mention's Egwene as well. - "The Aes Sedai were planning an elaborate memorial for Egwene; Tam preferred a quiet affair for his son."
There are too many references to Egwene's death in the Epilogue which everyone said that RJ wrote except for perrin's and Loial's POV.
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Egwene was designed to be killed from day one. Hence RJ's intentional insertion of qualities that are not exactly loveable.
If that was true, it clearly didn't work on me. She is my favourite female character throughout the series. Yes, she was annoying at times but so were Nynaeve, Elayne and Aviendha. Min was likable but she was pretty much a non entity throughout the whole series, mostly arm candy for Rand. Egwene was strong and she struggled through so much. All that hard work just to be killed in the last battle. Yes, you could say that this is the last battle and people die suddenly in war. But this is a fantasy story. I don't want a character that was developed so well throughout the series to be discarded at the end, especially one with so much potential for good. I really expected Min to die. She can see other people's future but not her own. She hardly did anything throughout the series and would have been okay dying. Killing Egwene off was pointless and may have been decided by RJ based on negative feedback from fans. He clearly wrote the end with egwene's funeral being mentioned in the epilogue and did intend her to die. I just think it was sad and pointless and I'm really disappointed.
Egwene's Arc (Full Spoilers)
in Wheel of Time Books
Posted · Edited by Koham
I don't think Brandon hated Egwene. He has been on record stating that Egwene's death was the hardest on him. I hated that Egwene died but what was worse for me was the fact that she didn't get the same send off that Rand did (even though he didn't actually die). There wasn't anything with Elayne, Aviendha or Min mourning Egwene. But the thing is that I don't think Brandon did this out of any dislike for Egwene but simply because he ran out of time and pages. There were too many things left unsaid. Although, I really enjoyed Androl and Pevara's side plot, I don't understand why they were given so many pages when some of it could have been spent on closure for the main characters given that this was the last book in the series.