Also, did she lie to that king that shows up out of no where at the begining of the meeting at Merrilor? She congratulates him on solidifying his rule and then says "You're welcome," implying that she helped some way, when she didn't. She then tells Gawyn that maybe she will set up a few false trails for him to find when he gets back home. I have been trying to think of a way for this to be skirting the three oaths, but anything I come up with sounds flimsy.

How would that possibly be a problem with the oath against lying?

 

Also not sure how wanting to see the world equates to not liking yourself or where you are from. You also seem to imply a drive and a will to learn is negative which I find odd.

I know they get around lying all the time in the books, that was just to close or me.

and it isn't that there is something wrong with wanting to learn something or see the world, it just that you shouldn't be surprised that she doesn't think back fondly of her time there when she so obviously wanted out.  If this was the real world, she would be the person that packs up her things and moves to LA or New York the moment high school graduation is done.  She wasn't happy being the mayors daughter, she had to move away and become a Wisdom somewhere and them later AS, she wanted to be important.  She was a grade a bitch in the first book, berating Rand, Mat and Perrin for going on an adventure with Moiraine and she can go on one to, not believing they could actually be important, or that Rand could actually have met Elayne the list goes on and on (a lot of which people have been listing).

Point number (2): I find it telling and extremely disappointing that she did not return to the Two Rivers for a wedding ceremony. From a literary standpoint, revisiting Emond's Field via a joyful celebration would have provided counter-point to the bleak, fearful flight in tEotW. Start and finish, ya know? Alas: when she left the Two Rivers, she LEFT the Two Rivers in her dust . Really, Egwene? Not even a single visit via Gateway? A summons to her parents for a meal in Tar Valon? Nothing? You gotta wonder what happened back in the day to make her so completely reject her people and traditions. Rand and Perrin and Nyaneave and Mat all, to some degree, laud their upbringing: Egwene never once pointed at her childhood and said: "I am strong because of Emond's Field.".... Instead, we are deprived of a joyous celebration in the face of the Last Battle, and learn that she herself had to sign the paperwork for her TarValon/Las Vegas wedding. I wonder if she had a reception? Cake? Champagne? or do you thjnk they signed the papers, said the vows, did the humpry-dance and now a core character is wedded.... Delightful....,

Back in the first book Egwene hints to Rand that she doesn't want to marry him because Wisdoms don't marry and don't stay in the same town that they were born in.  From the very begining we see her not liking who she is and where she is from.  She is utterly devoted to becoming a Wisdom so she can get out of town, then ooh! an Aes Sedai!  I can use her to get out of here!  Hmm, I'm now surrounded by Aiel and Wise Ones, they are pretty powerful, I'm going to do all I can to be like them for the next couple books.  (This is partly so we can get to know the Aiel better through her eyes, but it still made me hate her)

Also, did she lie to that king that shows up out of no where at the begining of the meeting at Merrilor?  She congratulates him on solidifying his rule and then says "You're welcome," implying that she helped some way, when she didn't.  She then tells Gawyn that maybe she will set up a few false trails for him to find when he gets back home.  I have been trying to think of a way for this to be skirting the three oaths, but anything I come up with sounds flimsy.

Finally finished Paolini's Ineritance. Took a long time to complete due to the birth of my second child and recovery from a recent surgery. Funny thing is I thought I would get a ton of reading done during my down time but the meds I was on made me nauseous whenever I read more than a page or so.

Just finished Alloy of Law so I'm finally caught up on Mistborn and after Inheritence I got the Night Angel Trilogy from the library to read.

Dan Abnet

Gaunt's Ghosts

First and Only

Ghostmaker

Necropolis

Honor Guard

The Guns of Tanith

Straight Silver

Sabbat Martyr

Traitor General

His Last Command

The Armor of Contempt

Only in Death

The Iron Star

Blood Pact

Savation's Reach

Adult

I have never seen a grown man whinge and moan as much as perrin. 'Oh i dont want to be a leader waah, my beautiful faile, she's gone, the shaido took her waaah etc etc.

 

It was frankly nauseating to read

In fantasy, the main character's lust for power is pretty common place, so for Robert Jordan to write a character that is supposed to be so integral to the survival of the world to shy away from power is actually rather refreshing.

What? The reluctant hero/leader is one of the most overused tropes in fantasy, and Perrin's case is one of those in which this reluctance makes the least sense. He's basically beaten over the head that the Pattern itself has chosen him for it and it will be necessary for him to act in those capacities, everybody keeps telling him he's doing a great job, yet he still whines and whines and whines...

 

I'd say characters like Egwene and Elayne, who are openly ambitious and like to be leaders, yet are on the side of the Good and are presented (mostly) in positive light, are more refreshing.

 

cwbys21's assertion here blew my mind. I hunt through books to find a good story of an ambitious or at least capable/responsible heroes. They are incredibly rare in the fantasy genre. Though they make be becoming more common as we FINALLY get away from the Tolkien-esk stereotypical fantasy and branch out. I agree with Selig for the most part.

 

What may have made it a little more interesting, is if he had tested the pattern's limits. It's interesting that in the 2Rs he does almost nothing except reiterate the answers people bring to him, and they leave saying, "oh you're such a great leader!". In response, Perrin mopes around complaining. What would have been interested is if he tried doing something else. "Well, if I have to lead then I'll do it on my own terms" type thing. Maybe get frustrated at one point and purposely demand a bad decision and have the pattern fix it for him and still end up giving him the credit. Then he'd have a real reason to be fatalistically depressed. But the crybaby attitude is infuriating.

 

I have never seen a grown man whinge and moan as much as perrin. 'Oh i dont want to be a leader waah, my beautiful faile, she's gone, the shaido took her waaah etc etc.

 

It was frankly nauseating to read

One thing that has actually pissed me off is the names. Why do authors thinking throwing a bunch of random consonants and vowels together will give you an interesting or fun name? Please just use James, Elisabeth, Ryan, and Patrick, or minor variations of it. And the same goes for country names, etc.

And I am currently reading Gotrek and Felix by William King.

Markus Heitz

The Dwarves(?)

The Dwarves

War of the Dwarves

Revenge of the Dwarves

Fate of the Dwarves (Aug 7, 2012)

Adult

One thing someone mentioned a long time ago that I never noticed until it was brought up is that Egwene doesn't have much of her own personality. In EF she is constantly mimicking Nyneave, then she is mimicking Moiraine/whatever AS is close, then she is mimicking Wise Ones etc etc. I think this was intentional, that we would come to understand these cultures through her, but from a pure story perspective, she comes off as a brown noser trying to constantly latch herself onto people with power and join their ranks.