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maryemi'jigede

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  1. Lan, definitely! Followed closely by Gareth Bryne and Perrin.
  2. Original post was WAY nasty because I got kind of annoyed at having to read the same annoying/immature word over and over again. What are we 12? So here's the edit: I see a big elephant in the room here. Good balances evil. Light vs. Dark. Creator vs. Dark One via Dragon & Ishy, and it's been that way since...Forever. The idea that Morishy could dole out the TP just seems off to me. The All Powerfuls are the Creator and the Dark One. From that interview quoted above about Rand accessing the TP: OK - Moridin. How/when did we all jump to the conclusion that suddenly he's not only a TP addict but also a dealer??? I don't like that idea at all. Unless RJ and BS have confirmed, I can't accept it. He's just not THAT powerful. He IS powerful, but if he's powerful enough to grant access to the TP, then what does he need the DO for? If the question is, "who ELSE can grant access to the TP?" Then I think the answer has to be: the Creator. Rand's getting the TP from the Creator. I think Rand talked about "Him" while filling himself with the stuff. I took "Him" to mean the Creator, not the DO.
  3. I don't think Slayer/Isam is leading the darkhounds, or ever will, but I am also wondering where the darkhounds are, and who they were hunting when that massive pack circled Perrin's camp in CoT.
  4. You were perfectly clear. Toveine's reaction was not to something Logain set out to do (with the power, at least), it was either a side effect of the bond or Logain was just that good a kisser. It was not compulsion nor any Semirhage-like usage of the power that caused the reaction. There are multiple references throughout the books to what is only appropriate with your wife or betrothed. "You're hardly a wife" points to the sexual response of the bonding. I've read and listened to this scene dozens of times and never taken it as anything but that. Extra Bit is capitalised when iirc it was a spoken quote. Goes to show how a meaning can be misconstrued when the reporter takes emphasis into their own hands. All you're saying is that you've misread that scene dozens of times. Why is the extra bit necessary? Well, if it's compulsion, it's necessary because it's needed to control the AS. If it's the "sexual response" then why does Logain think it's necessary to... stimulate his new Warder like that? Any explanation other than compulsion is full of holes and ignores both what RJ said and what was actually written in the books. Oh, and if the bond with the wives is different, then the compulsion is not present in the wife bonds but was an added extra in the AS bond - so you've practically admitted already that the extra bit is compulsion. Agree with Mr Ares, once again. It's more and more unlikely that a thing like this could be the extra bit, though I think RJ was being a tad cheeky here! But no man can kiss THAT well - none in this Age anyway (more's the pity) - sorry RJ, not buying it! There would have to be a whole lot more going on to bring on that kind of a reaction. Which is why I began this whole thread. It stood out for me, since RJ tends to skip around the whole concept of bedding in WOT. He prefers to allude rather than go into even semi- vase-shattering detail. And I just wondered, why on earth would RJ include a climax, on horseback, in the snow, in the middle of a mass Aes-Sedai-napping? Odd!
  5. I am so only saying this because I've just spent hours and hours trying to find out what I can about what everyone else has found out about Rand's mean uncle Luc - erm, if you follow me - but I wonder if Moiraine's disappearance had anything to do with finding out just what happened to Tigraine's brother? He went missing in the Borderlands, yes? But then, I'm assuming Moiraine figured out very quickly who Rand's real mummy was at the beginning of TGH, which even Moiraine in all her reigning amazingness could not have figured out so quickly. UNLESS she suddenly recognized him!! NOT so crazy, considering she is Cairhien royalty!!! Eh, eh? Not so far-fetched! But I don't know, I have probably had one too many glasses of red tonight so y'know...ahem. More likely the Adeleas/Vandene theory. And Moiraine, a dark friend? Bring me a cake of soap and a basin of water, your mouth needs washing out! LOL! Seriously though, RJ does not tend to break hearts into smithereens like GRRM does, so I would be stunned if she is a DF. And angry. Like, tear up all my WOT books kind of angry! And the ghollum in all of this, has GOT to be Fain. HAS to be. He is perfect ghollum material - the creature that once was a naughty human hobbit and became a far nastier something else! That's my 2 cents :)
  6. In trying to be PG-13 I did not make myself very clear - when Toveine had a very strong physical reaction at the time of the bonding (the vase shattering experience) I wondered if Logain had purposefully stimulated that, using something similar to what Semirhage had done to Cabriana's Warder... or if the big O was a part of the bonding method, or if it was a part of the compulsion method, or if he was just trying to pretend he could kiss THAT well
  7. Aaah, ok, thanks again Mr Ares. So....was Toveine's reaction a side-effect of the bonding, or part of the Compulsion...or did Logain do something Semirhage-y?
  8. OK, so in TPOD when Logain bonded Toveine, am I the only reader who thought the "extra bit" was bringing Toveine to um, certain, emotional/physical "heights"? Trying to be PG-13 here. If so, this seems suspiciously like what Semirhage did to Cabriana Mecandes' Warder, when she stimulated his pleasure receptors as well as the pain receptors. Could Logain have used a form of Compulsion on Toveine when he set the Bond? If so, do you think this makes him a bad guy?
  9. I also felt a little like an ant when I joined last week, but have really enjoyed building on my own knowledge of WOT and taking my WOT stalkerness to a whole new level, lol. Look for Leigh Butler's re-reads on tor.com -- that really makes you feel like 'you know nothing Jon Snow'! As for re-reads, I have not kept count. Books 1-10 I have read more than 6 times, less than 10 times, I think. NS, books 11-13 I have read twice. I must say, I'm in awe of the WOT fans who can remember so much, I always have to go looking to remember anything in detail, which inevitably leads to reading the whole chapter, which inevitably leads to me closing that book, picking up EOTW, and reading it all again!
  10. Yes, Aviendha's residue reading Talent is very rare, apparently some of the Forsaken can do it. Rand can also read residues I think (has he used it once or twice to follow Forsaken?). With the unravelling, that's seen as a basic skill to learn by the Wise Ones, but Aviendha has a Talent for it (like Nynaeve has a Talent for healing) so I guess she's like a level 99 at unravelling whereas a Wise One would be a level 10??? Lol, just to put it in perspective. Moridin's eyes nearly fell out of his head when he saw her unravelling - his thoughts indicated he had not seen the like even in the AOL. Or maybe I just read it that way?
  11. Yeah, I must say I just can't see past the twice marked rather than twice dying and twice living. Only because the whole first part of the prophecy is talking about the marks. But if I read the line on it's own and out of context, I would definitely think it meant he would die twice and live twice.
  12. OK, so I think I am pretty much convinced that: a) AM darkfriends are being trained as Dreadlords b) Taim is Moridin's man (so, in answer to my question, Ishy is the teacher) I also think that: c) More than one male Forsaken have been/are training AM Dreadlords (Osan'gar, Be'lal, Sammael, Demandred, Ishy are all candidates - some pre-balefiring) and so must have had contact with Taim when Ishy was switching bods (we know Osan'gar is one for certain. This would explain why Taim was reluctant to let him go - not so much as a teacher, but as a Dreadlord trainer). d) Taim is the Dreadlord of all Dreadlords who aspires to be a new Forsaken, in fact, I am about 70% certain that Taim is already a new Forsaken!
  13. Me too! And that's why I thought of Verin and Moiraine as well, except Mat didn't read Verin's letter so he didn't get to weigh the choice. So I'm fence-sitting on that one. Good point - I read it as him weighing them both. Following from that interpretation, the nature of weighing is not to assess each 'weight' individually but to compare one to the other, so... ...that means it probably isn't Teslyn and Joline, because he's not comparing their 'weights' he's weighing up their rescue and his safe escape. RJ probably had a good laugh knowing that we'd all wonder about those two after Egwene's dream. I initially thought the dream was about Mat returning to encounter Tuon, but there are things that make me think the two AS are not Teslyn & Joline. One is that Mat's marriage to Tuon has been prophecied AND viewed by Min, and the latter makes me think that Mat was always going to meet Tuon no matter what. So if he didn't go back for J & T, then he would've bumped into Tuon some other way. So I think the fate of the world wasn't hanging in the balance with that decision. I thought of Moiraine and Cadsuane too, since there has to be a powerplay between them as Rand's advisor... but then that doesn't quite fit either, because Mat is doing the weighing, not Rand. I think I am also leaning towards your theory ESM! I forgot about the Horn. Mat has to get back in to the Tower and out again, unscathed, with his Horn, which means planting himself between his She-Mantis (not a Tuon fan, can you tell??) and the AS. Now THAT is going to be interesting! I can just picture him forcing Egwene and Tuon to shake hands and hug, lol. Hurry up NOV12!!!
  14. Fantastic, so many questions answered in a couple of hours! Thanks guys :)
  15. I am re-reading the series and am on TPOD. Can anyone shed any light on this vision from one of Egwene's dreams:
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