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  1. Let's see here... Obviously, you've read Jordan and GRRM. I can't recommend Tolkein's works enough. The Hobbit is by far his best actual story in my opinion. Christopher Paolini is very simple, but I've talked to people who like him. He's very hit or miss. Goodkind is alright. Personally, I don't really like anything of his past the third book in the Sword of Truth, and I almost think it's best to only read Wizard's First Rule. I don't think I see it enough, but Madeleine L'Engle is fantastic. If you're into manga at all, One Piece, Rave Master, Shaman King are all pretty fun. The Last Apprentice by Joseph Delaney and Ranger's Apprentice by John Flanagan are good young adult books. The Symphony of Ages by Elizabeth Haydon is good if for nothing else than the amazingness that is Achmed. Phillip Pullman and C.S. Lewis are both fantastic, and it could be very fun to look at the two as opposite sides of a coin. If you want legends, THe Epic of Gilgamesh is cool (if short), and Beowulf and Homer's epics are great. Terry Pratchett is delightful and extremely humorous. Shakespeare is great, I personally love Hamlet and A Midsummer Night's Dream. Neil Gaiman is good, American Gods and Stardust both. Oh, and how could we forget Harry Potter, what a great story. Hope this helps
  2. Just finished game of Thrones. Next up is the Dragonbone Chair by Tad Williams
  3. So I'd like to pose an... I dunno, I guess it's a question. Say we want to educate someone on Fantasy Literature. This person is interested in fantasy, but has never been exposed to a vacuum. He has one hundred dollars to spend solely on fantasy media (we can include the adjoining genres in this too. Horror, Sci-Fi, Mystery and whatever else). So I'd like to discuss what we'd take this person's hundred dollars and spend it on. A couple of rules. First, link to your product. Shop around if you like. You can find a used copy if that'll save money. Second, Time doesn't matter. This person can absorb the media immediately. Third, in your posts, let's keep a running total of how much we're spending. I'll also try and total it in order to keep a second log. Also, for simplicity's sake, you just have to keep the subtotal under one hundred. The tax doesn't matter for our purpose. Lastly, it doesn't matter what media we're using. videogames, cd's, movies, literature, art, it's all in play. So let's get started. Who's got a suggestion?
  4. I'm taking Martin's Jon Snow and Pratchett's Librarian over Granny and Natsu. The Librarian takes the ring now.
  5. Currently Reading A Game of Thrones by GRRM (Finally) THe Shadow Rising (re-read) The Extra 2% by Jonah Keri (<3 Baseball) The Truth by Terry Pratchett
  6. Tolkein created something special in his development of the fellowship of the ring. To this day, authors use his model to develop groups to fulfill quests, their adventures which we love so much. Let's say, however, that we're drafting a new fellowship. Which nine characters throughout fantasy would you use? No limitations. Just please designate a ring bearer in your post. (And for fairness' sake, let's stay away from characters like Aslan. Evil just doesn't stand a chance when you're legitimately got God traveling with you). 1) Natsu Dragneel (Fairy Tail by Hiro Mashima) 2) Sirius Black (Harry Potter by J.K. Rowling) 3) The Vampirate Captain (Vampirates by Justin Somper) 4) Granny Weatherwax (Discworld by Terry Pratchett) 5) Hector of Ostia (Fire Emblem videogame series) 6) Iorek Byrnison (His Dark Materials by Phillip Pullman) 7) John Gregory (The Last Apprentice by Joseph Delaney) 8) Mat Cauthon (The Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan) 9) Achmed the Snake (Symphony of Ages by Elizabeth Haydon) I'm giving the ring to Natsu. It's not that he's particularly qualified, just that the others all walk a little close to the line between protecting the ring and using it to defeat Sauron. Who would you choose for your group?
  7. So what would you, as the teacher remove to make room? The easy part was to brainstorm stories and books. The picking and choosing what to use and what to leave out.
  8. I've put together a list of finalists based on authors, recommendations and length. This needs slight pruning, but I feel that the bulk of what I want to cover is here. Beowulf Books 9-12 of the Odyssey by Homer (The whole thing's way too long to get through, and I feel you hit the most fantastical stuff in this portion) A Midsummer Night's Dream by William Shakespeare The Sword in the Stone by T.H. White (Haven't read it, but Arthurian myth is pretty important. It's on my list) The Hobbit by J.R.R. Tolkein The Hedge Knight by George R.R. Martin (Haven't read it, but Martin's pretty great. I've got Legends on my list, so I'm getting to it) New Spring by Robert Jordan (On here more for my love of Jordan. Possibly the first thing to be pruned unfortunately. If only he were a bit more concise...) The Burning Man by Tad Williams (Also haven't read this. I've hear too much good about Williams to leave it off though) The Sea and the Little Fishes by Terry Pratchett (Dear God. This story has so much greatness in it. It's perfect to be taught in a high school class. I can't wait to hear a class of teenagers analyze that title) Additionally, Sleep of the Just by Neil Gaiman. It's the first of his Sandman comics. Blurs the line between fantasy and horror nicely. Finally, there are four movies/tv shows I'd like to show Aladdin. It's a cartoon, yes, but it's also great fantasy. The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe. If I don't assign the book, I almost have to show the movie, right? Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. I don't think many people think of it as fantasy, but it is. The Pilot episode of Supernatural. Dear Barbara, there's a whole ton of fantasy in there. It's not just blood and gore. So there's that. Please help me by suggesting what needs to be pruned. Fantasy writers seemingly have the inability to be concise, so I can't include everything I want, but now it's a challenge to you all to delete and modify as you like.
  9. Ideas are starting to come together, but I'm working on getting my hands on some of the suggestions in order to make a more informed decision. One thing I don't recall seeing mentioned but I'd think would be a good addition would be Madeleine L'Engle's A Wrinkle in Time. I've also considered possibly showing an episode of Supernatural (If you haven't seen that, check it out. Very fantasy, very interesting, and tons of stuff to analyze). Movies under consideration are Pirates of the Caribbean, The Princess Bride, Aladdin, The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe and Alice in Wonderland (haven't decided which version of that movie yet). Any other suggestions?
  10. It's not a viable option. How do twenty highschoolers get their hands on twenty individual copies of a movie. And it's not like it's not literature. Most reading will be done outside of class, but it's simply too expensive for a school district to purchase that many movies.
  11. The heir series is a good one I had forgotten about. Good call. The rouch list I've worked out was Neil Gaimain's Sandman in it, Delaney's very interesting. He managed to be YA friendly without being childish. And sorry, but I couldn't get through The Gunslinger. It bored me.
  12. That's why I'm purposely staying away from the big novels. I'd rather stick with shorter books like The Hobbit. There's more time to analyze in depth. It doesn't particularly have to be Hellboy. Maybe Sandman. In fact, when you get right down to it, most superhero stories are fantasy (Technically sci-fi, but sci-fi, fantasy, horror and mystery are so closely intertwined that they may as well all be one genre). It Tolkein weren't such an elegant wordsmith, I'd even consider using a graphic novel version of The Hobbit.
  13. What does everyone think of using a graphic novel like Hellboy? What movies would you use? Harry Potter? TLotR? Narnia? I've gotten one recommendation of a song to use, does anyone think Music could be considered Fantasy Lit? There's so much fantasy out there, and it's impossible to choose the best, especially if it has to be censored for a high school class. Hell, I can think of a Fantasy Video Game I wouldn't mind using. There's just o much media, so much cross genre stories and so little time to carefully examine it all. I wouldn't even think of picking the classics. That's a waste of time for this class. I'm not going to teach this curriculum in AP. I'm going to find media that even the most stubbornly anti-literature students can learn to enjoy. And then my goal is to teach them to dive deep into it, and find the author's message. I don't care how much people say that Dickens and Austen and Bronte and Hemingway are classics and have such great things to offer. It's all useless if none of them are read.
  14. Discussing religion in a class isn't the end of the world with someone like Lewis, because he's viewed as one of the top authors throughout history. If I tried to use someone like Ted Dekker, however I'm sure I'd be met with much more criticism, due to him not being one of 'the greats'. I do enjoy Artemis Fowl, but I feel that the series is a bit young (The same reason I'm steering away from the Lost Journals of Ven Polypheme, as much as I love them). I often wonder to myself how well Joseph Delaney's the Last Apprentice would do in a classroom setting. I'm also curious, anyone think I should try Neil Gaiman or Terry Pratchett? And I've never read the Hunger Games. I'll have to add it to the list of things to read.
  15. Just finished Beddor's Archenemy. Next up is either Pratchett's The Truth, Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 or possibly Dekker's Lunatic.
  16. That first one's not set in stone at all. Those were more examples of the sort of book I'd like to use than a statement that "I'm using these books"
  17. My goal is generally to steer away from using an entire series. Personally, I love the idea of using Beowulf. It's great literature and very short, perfect for a class. I'm also high on using stories from Grimm and Arabian Nights. I also thought I was the only one thinking of using Midsummer's, which is clearly not the case. I'm wary of using RJ or GRRM, if only because the sheer length makes it hard to cover the material in any depth. Probably the only works of Jordan's I'd be able to use would be The Strike at Shayol Ghul or maybe New Spring I currently have two ideas for a curriculum. First, a five book curriculum, using something along the lines of Beowulf, Midsummer's, The Hobbit, The Lion, the Witch and The Wardrobe and finally the first Harry Potter book, along with excerpts from Grimms and perhaps the Legends Anthology. The second curriculum choice would begin with the Hobbit, and then feature three or four books which I would allow students to choose at the beginning of the year. I would then work to pick short stories by other authors to fit in between. But this isn't just about me and my ideas. I want to know what you all think!
  18. I'm loving all the feedback. I particularly like the idea of contrasting Pullman and Lewis. Please, keep the ideas coming.
  19. To be fair, The Sword of Truth is great. If you read only Wizard's First Rule and pretend that it all ends there. Wizard's First Rule is great. But then Goodkind decided to basically just plagiarize Ayn Rand for the REST OF THE SERIES. My most over-rated book is probably Eragon. I disagree with most of you and believe it has some merit, but there's no reason that a movie needs to be made of it. I don't really understand the hate for Catcher. It's not the genius which English teachers make it out to be, but it certainly has literary merit.
  20. The question was regarding how you, the dragonmount users, would teach it. I've got a solid idea, but I'm posing the question because I realize that I'm not an authority on all things fantasy. Remember, we have 90 hours of class time (roughly) in a semester (at least that's how things went down at my high school). I have trouble envisioning anything any more than five books in the class (and that's pushing it, if you ask me). High School students generally don't want to read. My goal is to change that. With fantasy. As for age groups, they're higschool. As young as 14, as old as 18, but it'd probably be limited to upperclassmen, so between 16 and 18.
  21. Glad to meet you both!
  22. Hey y'all, I'm Chief. Nice to meet you?
  23. So I'm in college to be a teacher, and recently I've been contemplating an idea for a English class dedicated to Fantasy Literature. I pose this question to you, denizens of Dragonmount. How would you like that class to be taught? What books would you like used? Would you want fantasy movies, music, tv, poetry, plays, comics and videogames to be used? I'd love to hear opinions on the matter. Please let me know what you think!
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