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The Fallen One

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  1. So it has been a couple days since I finished, but I think I am ready to put my two cents in. I LOVED it! So, I will go ahead and make a couple praises and complaints regarding plot. I think Eg and Taims parallel was awesome. I loved Dems need to make himself in to the messiah for Shara. On the other hand, Fain was wasted buildup. The other complaint is that Moridin could have done more. That being said, the let down of Moridin fit well.
  2. I actually think Taim played out just like he should. It was cool to see that he became chosen since he had a huge impact on the amount of channelers that the shadow has. At the same time, he was just another petty villain at heart. He is envious of everyone who is put in a position "above" him. That fits in with other forsaken. The only one of them who is not petty is Moridin. It is fitting that Eg takes him out because she came to the top of her respective hierarchy as quickly as he did. They actually have a pretty huge parallel throughout the series. Sorry for the fragmented chain of
  3. Moridin - It would have the most impact if he turned. He is only fighting for the shadow because he believes that it is logical. All the other forsaken have petty reasons for being the Dark One's servants. Plus, we have already seen one forsaken join Rand's side because he thought it was the best choice that he had left, so why do something like that again? (Which is what would happen with any of the other forsaken because actually switching for a noble reason is not in their character.) Graendal - Runner up. I would not like to see it, but her commitment to the shadow seems a little weak.
  4. I think he is the opposite of inhuman. He was shown doing some very human things in ToM. Here is a small list: saving the apples, hugging his father, fixing problems that he helped cause in Arad Doman, apologizing to Hurin, and just expressing emotion in gener to those around him (other then anger). How is showing mercy monstrous? No, it is not the right thing to do, but it does fit with the whole saviour thing. His responsibility to the world is to face the Dark One, not to kill every human Darkfriend. In fact, them reporting back to other Dark Friends about what they saw could reduce mor
  5. I actually really like Elayne as a character because she makes bad decisions like any other 18 year old would. Also, I like that she has real faults that fit her upbringing. She was raised her whole life being told that one day people will have to give there life for her and that she should be prepared for that. What she did not get is that people should not have to die because she does something reckless, like she does in KoD and ToM. She is a good person who has the faults of being arrogant and reckless. Her arc in the story seems to be taking her towards getting past her recklessness.
  6. Well, there is an awesome excuse for him not doing anything about the Black Tower... He is crazy and completely paranoid, even more so around other male channelers, so he invents excuses not to deal with it. You cannot make the argument that his craziness has not kept him from understanding other problems and dealing with, because it has. You could really go as far to say that the only reason Rand has succeed in any aspect is that chance is on his side. Good first example of Rand doing something dumb would be all of TDR. It may have ended well for him, but really only because everything came t
  7. I think he is the opposite of inhuman. He was shown doing some very human things in ToM. Here is a small list: saving the apples, hugging his father, fixing problems that he helped cause in Arad Doman, apologizing to Hurin, and just expressing emotion in gener to those around him (other then anger). How is showing mercy monstrous? No, it is not the right thing to do, but it does fit with the whole saviour thing. His responsibility to the world is to face the Dark One, not to kill every human Darkfriend. In fact, them reporting back to other Dark Friends about what they saw could reduce mor
  8. I think it was an important task for Rand to apologize to Hurin. Rand is being human and making amends to people he cares about. Hurin was a friend and Rand felt he needed to let him know that he was sorry. I think "Zen" Rand is kind of a poor term for him.
  9. Brandon indicated that they have to get food from elsewhere. Sharans probably make good food. I have been wondering about this lately, too. Even if they feed on Sharans - they can not possibly feed several millions by feeding from humans. Each trolloc would need more than one human in his life too grow up, more like 20 or even a hundred. For 1 million trollocs we would need something between 20 and 100 million eaten humans. If we talk about 10 million in reserve - up to 1 billion humans eaten in a time of maybe twenty years. That number just doesn't make sense at all. Especially as w
  10. Brandon indicated that they have to get food from elsewhere. Sharans probably make good food. I have been wondering about this lately, too. Even if they feed on Sharans - they can not possibly feed several millions by feeding from humans. Each trolloc would need more than one human in his life too grow up, more like 20 or even a hundred. For 1 million trollocs we would need something between 20 and 100 million eaten humans. If we talk about 10 million in reserve - up to 1 billion humans eaten in a time of maybe twenty years. That number just doesn't make sense at all. Especially as w
  11. I think it was completely intentional and purposefully abrupt to show the huge contrast between Dark Rand and Zen Rand. As far as Rand sharing to much with people, it is about damn time. The theme of people not communicating leading to bad things has been ongoing and it only makes sense for the central character to be one of the characters to start trusting people. I think that it makes since that he is starting to trust, considering that Lews Therin lived a good portion of his life in the AoL before the Bore was drilled. That culture probably was a lot more trusting then the end of the AoL an
  12. First off! Heja Sverige. Ett steg närmare världsdominans! =P Second: I dk if that was Jordan´s intention but maybe he portrayed the women as interacting with the men as he did, to make a statement how the men in our world act with women. Subversive writing... although if some of the men irl were as pigheaded as some of the women in WoT I would smack them. And rape of women is still considered as something... like meh. Mean crime, rape is bad, but hey girl? What were you wearing and maybe you liked it rough? And nobody cares. I agree with you on this. I think RJ used gender reversal
  13. The band Nightwish is badass! <3 The title is not a reference to WoT. The song is about the Columbine massacre. I said the song is not about the WoT. It does, however, seem likely that the title is a reference to WoT, especially considering Tuomas is a fantasy fan and many of their songs have literature or movie references. I have no proof that the title is a reference to WoT, it just seems likely. It does not seem likely at all. I know Toumas is a fan of fantasy,the song Wishmaster is one such example. But why would the title be a reference to WoT when the song is about th
  14. I think the True power does have a counterpart: The One Power. Think about it, true power has negative effects on the pattern, while the one power is the force that drives the wheel. One power has two halves that promote working together, true power promotes selfishness. Also, in a world where most things have a counterpart, it would not make sense for there to be three powers rather then two opposing ones, Lastly, there is only one last book to bring this Light Power into the picture. It would be hard to do and not make it feel clunky and cheaply thrown in just to save the day.
  15. I am not sure Rand got new memories in VoG. That is something we will hopefully see in AMoL. I think what happened was more of Rand accepting his memories of Lews Therin and dropping the filter he created in his head to seperate LT from himself. No proof on this, but I think that Rand had all of the memories by the Cleansing and he just did not have use of them because he filtered them through the voice of LT in his head.
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