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Ferdawoon

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  1. I was under the impression that Elan was the most "dangerous" Forsaken, and the most trusted, because he did not really do it for profit or gain. He think he had concluded that as time pass, the number of times the Dark One try to break free reach infinity and thus the odds that one of the times the Dragon (or whoever is fighting) will fail also reach infinity. It was basicly just a matter of time until the Dark One won. Why prolong the fighting, the suffering and the agony? Checking this against the WoT-wiki I find this almost word for word: wot.wikia.com/wiki/Ishamael "He was un
  2. Honestly, I have seen much worse dancing around in these forums with ideas that seem to be taken seriously.. Where words and quotes are really picked apart to its smallest threads to try to get ideas across. Especially so when it comes to the prophecy-discussions.. You linked a quote where Jordan say the Creator is completly off the chart as far as influencing events goes. I linked one where it was hinted that maybe the Creator is not completly abascent. Then you link a few qoutes about how the Creator will not help Randland win the Last Battle in an attempt by RJ to show that he wont just be
  3. The question is: Why is the Creator ignoring Randland? RJ reply with "Who say the creator takes little interest in the activities of mankind?" So, there is no reason to believe that the creator is not in the equation at all. Completly abscent or just on vacation. RJ have said that they can expect no help from the Creator, that Rand cannot tap into the powers of the Creator in (my ears similar to how the Forsaken tap into the True Power) and things like that..However, To me that sound like the Creator have left the fight to mankind: If you want to persist, you need to fight for it. You
  4. The question is: Why is the Creator ignoring Randland? RJ reply with "Who say the creator takes little interest in the activities of mankind?" So, there is no reason to believe that the creator is not in the equation at all. Completly abscent or just on vacation. RJ have said that they can expect no help from the Creator, that Rand cannot tap into the powers of the Creator in (my ears similar to how the Forsaken tap into the True Power) and things like that..However, To me that sound like the Creator have left the fight to mankind: If you want to persist, you need to fight for it. You
  5. As you quote yourself, and as people love to mention that the Big White Book is seen as from the PoV of a Randland person, he do say "That is, that is the belief of the world that I've set up, that it's the same soul.". The key words being "It is the belief of the world". Just as everyone knew that stilling / gentling could not be healed. We also get a hint from Berelain that think being burned out should also be possible to heal somehow.. Notice how he do not actually say "this is how it works". He say "This is how people in my world think it works." Also, the last quote with the name
  6. (my highlighting) Well, we know what happened to the boat Nynaeve was in when she gave up on life and her block regarding channeling vanished. Someone Balefired. The oarsmen were balefired, meaning Nynaeve found herself back out on the water again. Also, the boat was already sinking. I admit to not remembering details enough to say something definitive. However I also remember this question to Brandon, which towards the end mention my example with Nynaeve. Basicly, the balefire through the boat made it so that the hole had been in the boat for a while, meaning that instead of starting to
  7. This is his early work, before he turn to the Shadow!
  8. I knew I had seen it somewhere: There is also this, to a lesser extent I remember seeing somewhere that he say that each age is similar to the same age the previous turning, in the same way that two tapestries can look the same at a glance, and at a distance, but once you get closer you see differences. Not sure if this mean that something as significant as which side of the One Power that is tainted is too great of a change or not. Remember that men cannot link without women, for example, which could cause issues. There is also this to explain why it was that the
  9. I was reviewing the scene of Rand exploring his ancestor's memories of the breaking and the scene where Callandor is observed the Aes Sedai are speaking of two men who will come to them the next day, it is obvious that these are two "Who are newly raised and thus less prone to the madness than the others" are all a part of the party that created the Eye as LTT's banner was also spread across and falling off the table while Callandor lay atop it. I am wondering if it wasn't just concentrated Saidin, but Saidin intertwined with Saidar. The women Aes Sedai all died from the taint as they used t
  10. Part of me want to say: Successful troll is successful.. Anyway, to the topic. As have been said, the Pattern, nor the Wheel, are not sentient. RJ have said that the Ages are not complete copies each time. That the tapestries of the same age over many cycles might look the same from afar but if you get closer you see a lot of differences. Maybe the next time around it will be the women who go mad and not the men? The general idea is there, the painting is made with a very crude brush. It's a bit like those childrens coloring books. The pattern have a basic outline of how the tapestr
  11. Well, seeing this quote: Rand channel Power and Light during the Eye of the World event, and he do the same during Maradon after his epiphany. When he return after Maradon he say that he was exhausted and that he was too close to an actual confrontation. Basicly, he was fighting as the Champion of Light against the forces of evil. if he fought with Light during the Eye event as well, he was fighting as the champion of Light as well. he was just not aware of it. This lead me to two scenarios: 1) Could we assume that the Dark One don't really get involved personally but ra
  12. I'm sorry, but this is inane. If a certain age is called The Third Age, and the subsequent age is called the Fourth Age, then guess what - they are numbered. That's what the numerals 3 and 4 stand for. Numbering. As to whether or not the numbering is relative or absolute... who cares? That's not the point. Except the naming scheme is arbitrary. That was my point. There is no beginning nor ending to the turnings of the Wheel of Time. The First Age didn't start with the creation of the universe. The Seventh Age doesn't end with the end of the universe. It's simply what some people in the univ
  13. We don't know enough about the Warder Rage when the warder has four bond holders. I think it would be interesting to see wha happens if she is killed. Since his other three bond holders were done in secret (was it made public?), I would like to see Alanna killed and the killer expect the warder rage only to have calm Rand there. Well, in a way we do. Moiraine made arrangements to transfer her bond with Lan to (Was it Myrelle?). Lan is still a bit edgy if I recall correctly (ages since I read it so can get this wrong) but he is not on a Warder-rampage. Is this because the bond was no
  14. "Father of lies", as they call him.. ishy / Moridin is the only real brainiac here. He argued (think this was from the BWB, but might have been from the wiki or another fansite) that sooner or later the Dark One would win. As time goes towards infinity, the chance / risk that the Dark One will win also go towards infinity. It was only really a matter of time. So he reason, why not let it end now, why go through all the struggle? He had the kind of thoughts that Rand had before Veins of Gold.
  15. Also, Aginor (as an example) was a brilliant scientist, working with advanced gene modifications and works on the very foundation of the genetic level. That don't mean that he knew how a shocklance worked, or even how to make ter'angreals or heal difficult ailments of the body. Semirhage is the healer of the Forsaken, not Aginor, even though his knowledge of genetics, anatomy and how the body work would indicate that he know a fair bit about biology and anatomy. It is just not the right kind of knowledge to be a good healer. Something that happen a lot ijn the Real WOrld is when someone wh
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