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Pilz

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  1. I am doing my first re-read and am on Winter's Heart. Rand had just been triple-bonded, and Min and Avi are out walking and they run into Birgitte. Min acts as if this is the first time she has seen her since Falme (when Mat blew the horn). Weren't they were together in Salidar before Min left with the emissary to Rand? I thought I remember Min and Birgitte playing together with Moghedien's 'children'.

  2. I like her OK. But Perrin's personality is not very compatible with the way Saldeans like their men to act.

     

    But mainly, when she was captured, Perrin got obsessive and annoying. Then it took about 3 books to get her rescued, and even then things weren't right until ToM.

  3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungian_archetypes

     

    At the level of generality that you're talking about, most fantasy stories fit that mold. Star Wars, The Lord of the Rings, Sword of Truth, Harry Potter, The Wheel of Time...

     

    E: Though, I think it's inarguable that Terry Goodkind took some of his cues from Robert Jordan.

     

    Yes, I understand that, which is why this wasn't meant to be critical or controversial. Most similarities are common. But I think the similarities with the Aes Sedai and the Sisters of the Light are the most interesting.

  4. In both series, the hero represents a return of a specific magic that hasn't been seen in thousands of years. Both are very powerful, but have trouble knowing how to use magic at times, which can lead to illness.

     

    In both series, an ancient form of long distance Traveling is re-learned in the 3rd-4th book.

     

    Late in both series, the authors seem to get a bit off track, delaying the resolution of the key story lines. (Yes, this is opinion, but widespread of fans of both series)

  5. In both series, the main protagonist discovers that he is a person of much prophesy, who must lead the forces of the light against the forces of the dark in the Final Battle if there is to be any hope for the world.

     

    In both, he is surrounded by powerful women who think that he has no idea what he is doing (because of his background), and spend much effort trying to get him to do something else.

     

    In both series, there is a powerful organization of ageless, magic-wielding women who have an important influence on men who can use magic.

     

    Also, in both, there is a subset of that organization that secretely serves the Dark One. A key plot line is how to root out the 'bad' sisters from the 'good.'

     

    In the second book of both series, we are introduced to a sister of similar names, who accompany the protagonist on the next part of his journey. These exact sisters have an important role in flushing out the 'bad' sisters. (Verin in WOT, and Verna in SOT)

     

    The leaders of these organizations are removed from power early in the series, but they go into hiding and pursue another important missions.

     

    In both series, the main protagonist is captured and tortured. The effects of this lead to important emotional changes (bad for WOT and good for SOT). Both have collars that are made for both pain and teaching of magic-wielding individuals.

     

    Continued...

  6. //Spoilers for both series//

     

    Hello, WOT fans. I made it through ToM about a month ago, and read the Sword of Truth (SOT) series a couple years ago (including a re-read). I have found many cool similarities; although, the two series are very different. This post has nothing to do with accusing either author of copying. It is merely to point out some observations. Of course I inderstand that many similarities are due to common themes in fantasy/fiction literature.

     

    The following are similarities of both series:

     

    The series begins with a young man, living a relatively peaceful life until a (magical) visitor comes to town. The man and some friends end up leaving with the visitor, and thus begins the adventure (yes, very common, I know).

     

    The visitor comes during a village festival/celebration.

     

    After the visitor comes, they are attacked by creatures never before seen by anyone in that region. The visitor helps them escape.

     

    The young man has been raised by his father because his mother died early. Also he finds out that his biological parents aren't who he thought.

     

    In both series, the man was taught something by his father that becomes significant later.

     

     

    Next post continues :)

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