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AshaShan

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  1. rand appointed Darlin as his steward, Darlin was elected King though Rand just didnt oppose it, thus Darlin is the king of Tairen initiative not by apppointment.

    So by extention of what you said should egwene not get a free pass for anythign elayne might do of her on initiative? elayne is egwenes subordinate

     

    Darlin swore fealty to Rand, was appointed as Steward and then chosen as King. The fealty part still applies, Steward or King. Egwene herself acknowledges this when she references his loyalty to the man he was sworn to.

     

    Elayne, on the other hand, has never sworn any oaths of fealty to the Amyrlin. In fact, Egwene goes on at some length about how wrong it would be of Elaida to have Aes Sedai do just that. Custom might urge Elayne to follow Egwene's lead but there is no legal binding upon her that I'm aware of.

  2. Darlin is King of Tear, but Rand is still in control of Tear and gives him orders, so ultimately it's mostly his responsibility.

     

    Not if Darlin acts on his own. Like by obeying Egwene's summons when he is supposed to be mustering the Tairens, for example.

     

    Darlin was Rand's appointment. Just as Elayne shouldn't get a free pass for anything Gawyn might do on his own initiative, so too should Rand be said to bear the responsibility for his subordinates actions. IMO, at least, and only on a moral basis. I could easily see a swave political customer like LTT expressing shock and dismay if Tear were to be attacked and dissapointment at the betrayal that made it possible, but I think we all know that if Rand had really wanted to stop the Tairens from being at Merrilor he could have.

  3. actually you contradict yourself, rand isnt ruler of either tear, Darlin is, so he cannot be blamed for anythign that happens in tear according to you

     

    No I didn't. Rand is the defualt ruler of Tear, Illian and all four of the Borderland kingdoms, since the rulers of those lands have pledged him service as his vassals. Darlin may be King but Rand's is the final authority in Tear.

     

    He will also bear responsibility for the destruction of the Borderlands if he doesn't provide support from here on out. Though I wouldn't hold him to account for their current state, since they've only been his vassals for half a day per the end of TOM.

  4. I dont like Egwene but Caemlyn's fate is not her fault. Its Elayne's. By definition if you insist on making yourself the final authority over a nation then anything that happens in that nation is your resonsibility. Basically, the buck stops with the Queen. She could have refused to comply with Egwene's desires but she didn't. Similarly, if Tar Valon gets crushed by the Seanchan while its forces are at Merrilor, that will be Egwene's fault alone. And if the same happens to Tear or Illian - Rand's.

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