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moratcorlm

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  1. No, I was saying the opposite: that The Dragon would get the credit no matter what happens, even if his only role is to stand in Shayol Ghul being The Dragon while others perform whatever ritual is required to close the Bore until he keels over and bleeds on the rocks. I'm not advancing that theory, by the way; I honestly don't know what the resolution to that particular plot will be. I'm just saying that yoniy0's statement that "since Rand can't lead a Circle of three, it makes no sense for the climax of the series" is not necessarily ironclad.
  2. Well, certainly sound legal reasoning you have there. This does not follow. (Is this a version of divine right to you, since Rand is Jesus?)
  3. The entire shtick of WOT being "legend fades to myth", it wouldn't be too odd if the hero turned out not to be the hero after all, that Rand's role (while crucial) was a purely passive one.
  4. That seems unlikely. Remember that at the end of TGS Rand felt the barriers to his past lives breaking apart so that he had access to their memories, which sounds very like what happens to Heroes of the Horn in TAR. Either "the Wheel did it" a la the sky-fight at Falme or Rand having entered TAR unconsciously while awake seems the best explanation to me.
  5. ...which are both quite sexist. Just ask Egwene and Mat. Nor are any of the so-called 'anti-sexist' societies ever particularly internally consistent or well-explained, economically. Actually, I take that back: Far Madding is, as are the Sea Folk. Jordan always combined his sort of 19th, early 20th-century feminism (mixed with sexual-revolution ethics and the idea that every woman was in some way his wife) with a sizable wink at the reader. "Yeah, this is a ham-fisted allegory about real life injustices. But seriously, look what happens when you put broads into power." Which hardly goes unno
  6. I do not believe Moiraine knew she would marry Thom until after Baerlon; Min sees images, not names. Thom probably tagged along for the same reason he helps Rand later in the book; he's extremely bitter about Aes Sedai and wants to offer what protection he can for the boys.
  7. This is untrue. While there are only a few fleeting references to male homosexuality in WOT, there are a number of lesbians, situationally or otherwise, particularly in the White Tower (though not all by any means; e.g. the relationship between Shalon and Ailil). I'm also unsure what you mean when you say "the Shaido camp was aloof with homosexual debauchery", leaving aside precisely what you intend by 'debauchery' and 'aloof'. Was there more than the one Maiden who slept with Arrela, and Therava? Quite so.
  8. How do you explain Min's viewings of Logain's great glory to come, then?
  9. I'm just saying that "Who other than the Sea Folk could build a ship to cross the Aryth Ocean?" is a more persuasive argument if it weren't immediately followed by an example of just that. Could the red-sailed ships in Seanchan have been made on the southern continent by male Sea Folk channelers? I suppose, but when we already have two non-Sea Folk examples of civilizations with modern levels of technology building trans-Aryth capable ships (i.e., Artur Hawkwing's empire and the Seanchan) it's hardly the inescapable conclusion. Perhaps – though I don't really think it's likely – they're Sharan
  10. But they haven't. There have been plenty of deaths on the side of the light. What you want is death of heavily characterized heroes, which is a completely different matter. You want shaggy dog stories, not drama but tragedy and very extensively built-up tragedy at that. What are you reading that hasn't had a single death? Just among Light-side characters who have had a known impact on the plot, we have Geofram Bornhald, Aram, Ingtar, Verin, Masema, Pedron Niall, Eamon Valda, Carlinya, Anaiya, Adeleas, Vandene, Turak, Renna, Asmodean, Meilan, Couladin, Nalesean, Colavaere, Nicola, Eben, Asuna
  11. More likely: Now that would have been an entertaining twist. WOT is more a character-driven story than a thematic one or a quest-based epic, and killing characters is kind of an insult to those who have invested time in watching them develop. That's why I'm not really a fan of ASOIAF despite the quality of writing; the first major death was excellent, and I assumed it was in the development of theme, but as the orgy of violence goes on the only real theme that's left is 'look how horrible it is that all these people are dying.' That doesn't really present many opportunities for escapism
  12. Like or dislike as you wish, but Elayne, Egwene, Perrin, Mat, and Nynaeve aren't secondary characters like Siuan is.
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