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  1. Okay, so I have a little (VERY little) bit of information to add. This is unofficial, and maybe it is already known by many, as it's been a while since I've followed "what is known and not known" about the Wheel of Time TV series. What I can confirm comes from a personal connection that I cannot divulge, which I know makes this post reek of tinfoil-hat smell. I have a VERY tenuous and indirect connection to... someone at Sony Pictures Television Studios (more of a "I know someone who knows someone"), and that person is bringing this monster of a show to television. Acknowledging that, you can choose to believe me or not. This probably isn't even really news. The series is being developed by Sony Pictures TV (we knew that, right?). There's no cast yet, and to be honest I do not even know how far along they are, but I know they're still early enough in development that no one at Sony is even discussing casting yet, but the feeling is that the show will star mostly unknowns with one or two somewhat recognizable names, but probably not huge stars, unless the show ends up being wildly successful. But it is absolutely going forward, enough so that some folks at Sony (and people connected to them) are all reading the Wheel of Time, many of them for the first time. There is at least one extremely high-level executive at Sony who is directly involved in the show's development. I can't name the person without breaking a confidence, but I do know who the person is and what their position within Sony is, and when I found out who it was, and I saw their track record on other TV shows, I was happily surprised. I can say with some degree of certainty that the folks in charge of the TV show are taking it VERY seriously. They are all keenly aware of what the series means to its fans. They might not be able to accomplish everything that fans want to see (some corners are going to have to be cut, considering the medium of television), but they're really trying. They're moving carefully, and thoughtfully, and the last thing they want is to release the show and have it reviled and denounced by the WoT fan community. They do feel the pressure to make it something people want to see. I couldn't begin to guess about when it might be ready for broadcast, but barring some kind of catastrophe, it seems inevitable to my untrained eye that this will be on your TV eventually, and not necessarily as a low-budget affair. They are also aware of the Red Eagle "Dragonmount" pilot debacle. They are keeping that in mind as a cautionary tale, to remind them that they can't just release a crap show, slap a WoT sticker on it and call it good. They do want this to be something special. They have ambitions for multiple seasons, but at present all their efforts are being directed towards making season 1 something they they can be proud of. I hope this helps. And I apologize if it does not.
  2. Though I know it won't ever happen, there's a part of me that would love to find out how each of the major characters lived out the rest of their lives, what they accomplished, how they interacted with one another, etc. Even if it's only a few paragraphs. Did Rand get his normal life? Or did the Wheel tap him again to be a hero? Did Perrin end up King of Saldea? What was his reign like? How did history remember him? Who was the Lord of the Two Rivers while he was in Saldea, and was Caemlyn ever rebuilt? Was Mat able to get the Seanchan to cool their jets a little? Did he and Fortuona ever actually fall in love? Did she have a long reign? Did Moggy ever escape? Did the White and Black Towers ever start to work together? I think it would be generations yet before they re-formed as a single organization, but what was that relationship like after the Last Battle? Did Androl and Pevara get married? Did Logain ever earn the respect of the Aes Sedai? Did Aviendha prevent the future that she saw? Did Nynaeve and Lan rebuild Malkier? Were the Ways cleansed? Did Galad end up with Berelain? Where did Morgase and Tallanvor settle? And my biggest question: Did Rand ever go back to the Two Rivers and reveal himself to Tam? Or anyone else, anywhere else, for that matter? Did any of his ladies ever follow him? I hope some of these get answered in the encyclopedia, when it comes out.
  3. Is there some reason that I cannot see the complete pic on this posting? Nor can I click on it to open it in a new window. All the pics posted on this article (and at least some of the others) are so big that they're getting cut off right down the middle, and I can see only the left side of it.
  4. I was more of the impression that Elan Morin died, but not the way that he wanted. He wanted a FINAL death, one where he would never come back. He considered his current life as Moridin a punishment from the DO for coming to believe that he WAS the DO back when he was Ishamael. The way I understood it, Rand's body was bleeding out from the wound in his side, and after the body swap, Moridin was then trapped in Rand's fading body, and died from loss of blood, assuring that he would indeed be reborn again at some point. His punishment is that he'll NEVER get a final death. That's more about the contrast between Rand and Moridin: Rand sees rebirth as a good thing (a chance to love again and fix your own mistakes) but Moridin sees rebirth as a cosmic joke and seeks only to end his own existence once and for all. Rand got what he wanted: a chance at a normal life. Moridin did NOT get what he wanted: a chance at a final death. No? The more I think about Elan Morin, the more I come to realize what a fascinating character he really is, from a literary perspective. Very complex bad guy. Now my favorite character after reading AMoL. I shall never knock RJ, but think Sanderson really brought something special to Ishy's character.
  5. I am proud to say that I did okay with my predictions. Got some WAY wrong, but got a few right. I refer you to my comments from the previous Theory Blog from Jan 1: "Body swap ftw Mat will kill Padan Fain. Fair to say he has unfinished business with Mordeth. All Forsaken will die, none of them willingly. Perrin will not be the one to kill Slayer. Wolves are pack hunters, and Perrin is done fighting with his inner wolf. Perrin will serve as bait because he knows Slayer won't expect that. Faile will kill Luc, or Elyas will kill Isam, or both. which Slayer will not see coming. I'm dropping theory bombs up in here! Somebody stop me!! And my final Looniest of the Looney Bin Theory, which I found written on the inside collar of my straight-jacket: Egwene gets collared again, facing her last biggest fear. I make no predictions about whether or not she gets free before the end." Okay, first off, I TOTALLY nailed Padan Fain's killer. HAD to be Mat. This one was a no-brainer for me. Also the body swap. This one was also predicted by many, so it's not MY theory, but I did subscribe to it almost immediately after hearing about it. I said that all Forsaken will die, which was obviously wrong, but they were all defeated quite soundly, and in some cases, suffered fates far worse than death (such as slavery). But I was correct that none of them would turn to the Light. Perrin WAS the one who killed Slayer, so I was WRONG WRONG WRONG! Embarrassingly wrong. Like, "what-the-heck-was-I-thinkin'" wrong. And my big final looney theory about Egwene being collared again was also completely wrong, but I was right that something really big and really bad was going to happen to Egwene. But in the end, she stood as tall as any character in the entire series. We can only dream that one day our deaths will mean as much. Tai'Shar, Tar Valon. The one that caught me completely off-guard (though some had it right) was Demandred being in Shara all this time. Almost everyone thought he was in Murandy, and indeed, even Rand thought so. Remember that scene where Rand looks Roedram in the eye and says "You're really not him, are you?" I think that was Brandon Sanderson telling all of us "GOTCHA!" And rightly so. Most of us were completely fooled. I gave absolutely NO credence to the theories that he was in Shara, and I was TOTALLY fooled. Well played, Team Jordan. Well played. And Mashiara, I am also glad that you kept thinking outside the box. It made this Theory Blog better. Somebody had to be the one to talk out all of the possibilities, and that was you!
  6. First of all, JACK!! Thank you, dude! Tai'shar [insert your home city here]! Metal Head's Final Predictions (and you know that's important because I capitalized every word AND referred to myself in the third person): Body swap ftw Mat will kill Padan Fain. Fair to say he has unfinished business with Mordeth. All Forsaken will die, none of them willingly. Perrin will not be the one to kill Slayer. Wolves are pack hunters, and Perrin is done fighting with his inner wolf. Perrin will serve as bait because he knows Slayer won't expect that. Faile will kill Luc, or Elyas will kill Isam, or both. which Slayer will not see coming. I'm dropping theory bombs up in here! Somebody stop me!! And my final Looniest of the Looney Bin Theory, which I found written on the inside collar of my straight-jacket: Egwene gets collared again, facing her last biggest fear. I make no predictions about whether or not she gets free before the end. Well, that's it ladies and germs. Those are the last theories I'll ever get to make. It sorta brings a tear to 'me eye. If jack is right, and the blog comments are going to be locked down soon, I'd like to send shouts to mark, snowball, jack, gwenifer, and all the other people I'm forgetting right now because that's what wine does to a person. Best shout saved for last: MASHIARA!!! Thanks for writing all of these wonderful theories, and for engaging with us in the comments. I rate you 5 stars, and place you in my Cool Book. Happy Wot Weekend, all. We'll all be back on these blog comments before you know it, and all of us bragging about what we got right, and laughing at each other for what we got wrong. Looking forward to it!! ---MetalHead
  7. Totally unrelated to the original post, but I'm saying it here because the Theory Blog Comment Regulars (and btw, we TOTALLY need a new name) are sort-of "my people" on DM. I got chosen as a Memory Keeper (SF). I'm so completely excited I could flip, but I will find a way to keep it together! I don't know if any of our usual regulars is going to be at the Frisco signing other than me, but if so, say hi to the late 30-something male Keeper with the pony tail. Hope to see some of you there!
  8. Then again, Alivia's role in "helping Rand die" still ties in nicely with the Moridin/Rand Body-Swap theory. What if it's only Rand's BODY that she kills, while Rand's mind lives on in Moridin's body? What if, what if...! There is a point to be made about Alivia not really having run into Rand since his epiphany. But one would assume that she'll be at the fields of Merrilor with the rest of the Light Armies. I get this feeling that there is some shared secret between her and Rand, something we haven't been privy to, that even Min hasn't puzzled out yet. It might explain why Rand is the only one who trusts her so completely, and why she never speaks of it to anyone else. Even Cadsuane has basically left her alone. Then again, Rand's plan to have her "help him die" might have changed since Veins of Gold. Since he hasn't had any interaction with Alivia since then, we don't really know yet. It's a good point that Rand wanted her to help him die while he was descending into madness, but now that he's more or less recovered, perhaps his plan has changed about that. Between Nicola's Foretelling and Aviendha's vision, we know that there is at least a strong possibility that Rand ultimately survives the Last Battle. Only 2.5 more weeks until we find out! It's getting exciting now, isn't it?
  9. I've had a similar thought about Callandor. Recall the first place Callandor is seen CHRONOLOGICALLY. In the history of Randlad, the first place Callandor appears is shortly after the Bore, right at the beginning of the Breaking. Rand sees this scene in the glass columns in TSR. He sees that Aes Sedai preparing to create the Eye of the World, and Callandor is sitting on the table as that meeting commences. Meaning it was made BEFORE the Eye was. And it appears to have been made for a specific purpose: To fight the Last Battle. Remember, there were two competing plans about the Strike at Shayol Ghul: Lews Therin's place to use seals, and the female Aes Sedai plan to use the Choedan Kal (sp?). Rand has admitted that his (LTT's) plan failed. The seals were imperfect and temporary. And he shattered the Choeden Kal ter'angreal in Veins of Gold. So NEITHER of those was the correct plan. Which leads me to believe that the surviving Aes Sedai at the time must have figured out what WOULD HAVE worked. Their plan needed the Dragon, so it was no help to the Age of Legends, because by that time, LTT had already killed himself, but they knew he'd be reborn in the next age. So they prepare the Eye to give him a clean source for when he starts channeling, and they make Callandor, which they believe is what he'll need to finally re-build the DO's prison from scratch, and then they wait for the next age. My point is that Callandor was created at the end of the AoL, so even then, they must have figured out what the Dragon needed to do, REALLY do, in order to REALLY WIN. All Rand has to do is figure out what they knew. TOTALLY UNRELATED SIDEBAR Noticed something in my re-read yesterday. The sad braclet/mail a'dam plan probably never would have worked, at least not the way Semirhage wanted it to. She didn't seem to know what Moghedien did, to her own demise. Modhedien explains to Nynaeve during their duel that the male a'dam can be used by one woman, but he will still go mad and the backflow will eventually give him control. Or TWO women can use the bracelets, but that lessens control. "Lessens control?" Could that be another reason why Rand was able to break free? There were two women using it, which lessened their control over Rand, allowing him to touch the TP and break free. Perhaps if only Semirhage had used it, it might have worked. She only need to control him long enough to get him to Shayol Ghul. There was no more taint by that point, so theoretically there would have been no backflow. But she didn't know what Moghedien knew, so she used them incorrectly, hence... one very angry Dragon and some balefire.
  10. Has anyone at all gotten a notification yet? I'm hopeful, but if I haven't gotten an email by now, I'm thinking I did not get chosen, right? No pressure. Just curious.
  11. That's an interesting thought. Has Rand figured out some way to actually slay the Dark One? He's mentioned it before. Moridin think's it impossible. They thought healing stilling/gentling and cleansing the taint was impossible as well. Gwen makes me realize that's the only way Moridin could possibly turn: If Rand is able to convince Moridin that it's not only possible, but that the world would be better off with the Dark One gone. That last part is problematic. Moridin WANTS the world to end. He sees the endless repetition of the Wheel as something worthy only of destruction. Unless Rand can convince him the Wheel is worth preserving, I don't seem him turning. No one loves Elan Morin. No one ever has, that we know of. No love = no epiphany. Probably.
  12. Oh, man. The 3 previous posts from Mashiara and Tsukibana are EXACTLY why I love this blog. Mashiara, that's actually an incredibly astute observation (which just means that I have never thought of it, but I wish I had). I like the idea that Moridin has become aware that everything he's done to try to obstruct or damage the Light has only made them stronger by forcing them to overcome. I'm not sure if I agree that Moridin is now attacking the light because he's intentionally trying to make them stronger in the hopes that they'll win, though that would be satisfying to me if it turned out to be true. Seems more to me like he is trying to make things easy for Rand in order to make him become more complacent, but is now realizing that has also failed. And Tsukibana's idea ties in quite nicely to that basic idea. Moridin has finally realized that every time he tries to kill the Dragon, all it does is make him stronger and MORE likely to win. Sooo, new plan. I think he's trying to lure Rand right into the Pit of Doom, where the Dark One can take direct action against Rand. Maybe if the DO kills the Dragon (or turns him), he won't be reborn...? The only place I would disagree with you, Tsukibana, is in the statement that "The Light never wins, it only achieves stalemate." They HAD to have won at some point, because the Dark One's prison was WHOLE during the Age of Legends. I guess it depends on the definition of victory. If you mean the Light has never "killed" the Dark One, then I agree with you. But at some point in the past turnings of the wheel, the Dark One's prison was rebuilt so perfectly that people in the Age of Legends barely knew the Dark One was even real. And there was certainly no way for the Dark One to touch the world without getting some inadvertent aid from Mierin's experiments. I think that's about as close to a total victory condition as the LIght could ever get. Then again, it seems that Rand may have something else in mind entirely for his fight.
  13. @Tsukibana - Regarding where Moridin is drawing his belief about past lives and eternal battles... and this is ALL opinion. We're theorists here right? Facts are for wussies. :) I would argue that Elan Morin reasoned it out for himself, much in the same way (I think) Harid Fel did, and eventually Rand. If time is a wheel, and there are only 7 unique ages, then all of this MUST have happened before in some capacity. Including the imprisonment of the Dark One, the Bore, the War of Power, the imperfect sealing of the DO's prison, the DO breaking free, and even Tarmon Gaidon. If the Dark One's prison was once whole and unblemished, and time is a wheel, then at some point IN THE FUTURE, the Dark One's prison will be again whole and unblemished. His prison doesn't need to be just "re-sealed." It needs to be completely "re-built." We see Rand more or less reason this out in Veins of Gold, but Rand's question was "Why do I keep doing this?" When Elan Morin came to these same conclusions, the question he asked himself was "What shall I do about it?" Elan Morin never concerned himself with WHY time was a wheel, or if he did, he never found his answer. So to him, it seemed like a big fat waste, and only worthy of destruction. Rand nearly went down that same train of thought, but unlike Elan Morin, Rand figured out his reason for why: love. I don't think Elan Morin knew love. The Wheel of Time is all about unity and groups coming together to become stronger than they are apart. Love is the ultimate form of unity. Ishamael worked for thousands of years to PREVENT unity and sow chaos/disorder wherever he could. Definitely NOT interested in love over on the Dark Side. Just a thought.
  14. I doubt that Moridin is a double-agent because he has been chosen as Nae'blis. I don't believe that ANY Forsaken, especially not the one chosen as Nae'blis, could hide anything from the Dark One. If you swear your soul to him, he OWNS you. When you stand in the Pit of Doom, you cannot hide anything from him. If Moridin were secretly planning to help Rand win, the Dark One would know. At least, I THINK he would. There was a very telling moment in Towers of Midnight where Rand and Moridin met in a dream and just chatted. I don't recall the chapter specifically, but Moridin was clearly annoyed at the intrusion. But they didn't fight, they just... talked. I thought that was a VERY cool scene, and I wanted it to go on far longer than it did. Rand addressed Moridin as "Elan" and spoke to him as he would speak to an old friend who had simply lost his way. At one point he said something like "You always had so many questions in your mind, Elan." We know very little about the relationship Lews Therin had with Elan Morin prior to the Bore. But obviously they knew one another. The body swap theory is still foremost in my mind, but I begin to wonder if they will not "swap" bodies, but actually MERGE into one person. Balance has been a theme of WoT since the beginning. Saidin & saidar, White and Black Towers, One Power & True Power, men & women... it seems a possibility that "Light & Dark" also need to be balanced. This leads me to the idea that Rand and Moridin might represent this merging of light and dark. It started with the inadvertent link during ACoS. But I did learn something new from this week's blog that I hadn't considered before, I'm ashamed to say. By the time Rand fought Sammael at Shadar Logoth, Moridin already had a desire to keep Rand alive, or else he never would have gone to Shadar Logoth to help Rand beat Sammael in the first place. But Moridin's link with Rand at Shadar Logoth definitely raised the stakes. I think there is something to this idea that if Rand dies, so does Moridin. It might explain why he's delaying Rand's death. He's trying to figure out a way to not die again himself, because with his link to Rand, he's not sure if the DO can bring him back again. That would make a whole new ballgame out of the Last Battle, at least for Moridin. Perhaps he needs Rand to die in the Pit of Doom, while Moridin and Rand are BOTH in the presence of the Dark One. Might be the only way the DO can bring Moridin back. I dunno. But I grow more anxious for the last book with each new Theory Blog. Thanks for the great ideas, Mashiara!
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