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Solmyr

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  1. #1 - Androl's lava-gateway. *I only wish he'd done it at Shayol Ghul, when it would've mattered even more. I didn't really care about Elayne, the only reason I wasn't rooting for the trollocs was the poor Ogier. #2 - Mat considering in his mind a staring match between Lan and Karede. *If we're ever allowed so see/know a single thing from the WoT universe, I'd vote on that ;) #3 - Ituralde proving the most badass of the great captains. This actually includes 2 moments: - When he was holding the trollocs at the mouth of the canyon with his masterful defenses - When he was resisting Graendal's compulsion and refusing to give the false order, realizing immediately that something is wrong.
  2. When I realized with shock that my favourite protagonist is about to kill my favourite antagonist. Naturally, I was rooting full-heartedly for Fain to reach Rand and the DO and spice things up. Once he was out of the picture I paused the audiobook, took a long breath and told myself "OK, there's still Lanfear, she might be up to something interesting" ... 3 mins later she dies with a snapped neck after the most anticlimactic display of shallowness*. Oh ye and neither Lanfear nor Moridin got their redemption. At least one of them should have (I was rooting for Moridin). Tho, come to think of it, he walked away in the end, while Rand burned :). * seriously BS & Team Jordan, how does it remotely make sense to you for Lanfear to lose in TAR to Perrin, by making the mistake to Compel him and have the weave dispelled/suppressed due to the laws of TAR that she should know (and has proven time and time again to know) better than ANYONE else. And please don't come forward with the "Oh no, Perrin just invented this and no one has ever known about this and it probably won't work for anyone else because <made-up reasons>.
  3. R.I.P. Padan Fain. You could have been so, so much more...
  4. Au contraire, memory #24 was the first one that told us anything we didn't know and now know almost for certain - whoever is doing the musing, we can assume he has lived then and there. So far in the books the AoL was always described as the pinnacle of civilization, a paradise on earth. It was the mankind's thirst for progress and knowledge, for "equality" between the genders, that led to accidental drilling of the Bore and Heaven's fall. Now we're suddenly being told that there were imperfections in this paradise and moreover, they were ignored. Mankind had, in fact, failed to created an actual paradise, rather they had created one in their minds and were determined to prolong it as much as possible. If this musing turns out to be an accurate description of the AoL it will make me reconsider everything I thought I knew of that age.
  5. I would stake my right to read AMoL on it not being Moiraine. Moiraine would never call Perrin by his full name (incl. family name).
  6. No, Rand has definitely not been holding onto Saidin since Dragonmount in TGS. He is shielded in TV. He visits Far Madding to meet with the borderlanders.
  7. We don't know for sure that she changed the purpose of the pillars. For thousands of years the Aiel have gone among the pillars only once. It is implied that anyone who goes more than once never comes out. The latter can mean that the few who actually dared venture a second time simply could not face the visions of the Aiel future. Or it could be something more technical, like the ter'angreal actually requiring something from the recipient of the visions, say that he has at least an X number of generations in the past/future to show. With the past that's hardly a problem, but as so many Aiel dead or about to die, it is not unreasonable to believe that many lines will end quite soon. In any case we'll likely know the answer to that mystery in the beginning of AMoL, when Bair returns (or doesn't).
  8. Started a re-listen in september, halfway through Winter's Heart atm. But I won't be able to listen as much in the next 30-40 days so I fear I will need to push the last books around Xmas to make it in time.
  9. Logain and all the BT men who have not gone over to the Shadow can link with the AS who have not been 13x13'd yet. The linking could be done in several ways, one enormous circle if they need to strike really hard and/or overwhelm another large circle; several large circles to overwhelm any individuals or small circles; small circles fighting guerrilla warfare, especially if they are outnumbered (they seem to be). The main advantage the Resistance within the BT has is that Taim will have to send Asha'man and 13x13'd AS to the front lines sooner or later and weaken his stronghold. As far as I know he hasn't managed to 13x13 enough AS yet and he will probably want to send as many as he can to help form circles, since the Shadow seems to have more male channelers than female (given how much the Black Ajah was weakened in the latest books). This would leave the BT with perhaps enough men, but very few, if any, women, who are Shadowsworn. Then the Resistance can strike with well organized circles and capture/sever/kill most of the dreadlords inside the BT and reclaim it.
  10. Interesting, thanks for info BBM. Cuendillar being displaced raises some interesting side-questions - like what would happen if the Cuendillar to be displaced is, for example, the chain on Tar Valon's harbour? Or if two Gateways were opened at the same time in such a way that they would have to displace a single piece of Cuendillar in opposite directions?
  11. I'm probably not the first person to wonder about that, and perhaps it has been answered somewhere, but I couldn't dig it out. So if it has been discussed before, could anyone brief me on what the board thinks about what would happen if a Gateway is opened on top of Cuendillar. The edges of a Gateway slice through anything and it makes sense, otherwise the Gateway would either be displaced or the something in the way would stick through the Gateway. I remember it was discussed in the books that if two Gateways were opened on the same spot at the exact same time, they would displace only enough to allow each to open equally close, without any space in between. Would the same happen with Cuendillar in the way? Would it actually displace a Gateway? Or would it try to cut through the Cuendillar and possibly fail?
  12. The Ogier will definitely play their role in the LB. ToM starts very memorably - with a quote from Loyal's book-to-be. I think there is no doubt that the Ogier will be convinced not to open the book of Translation, because of Loyal's speech. And because the Tinkers need a suitable ending as well, my theory is that Ogier and Tinker will find the song together and fight in the LB by driving away the Blight and the evil of the DO, making things grow and preserving Life in general.
  13. My money's definitely on Elan. Got nothing against ol' Mierin, I just think she has another role to play. Furthermore, her redemption, if it occurs, will feel kinda hollow - if she does turn against the DO she'll do it because there's no other choice. She's being tortured, crushed, she has lost everything including her body, she's about to lose her very soul. It's not much of a choice to change camps at this point. Now look at Elan. He's not evil, per say, he just believes the Shadow will eventually win and he prefers to side with the winners and rule for a time (his exact words). Lately, he's been feeling so very tired, the conflict has scarred him as well, he is now linked to Rand and feels Rand's exhaustion. He desperately wants the cycle to end - at this point I don't think he really cares how the cycle ends. As long as it's not another reset. Rand also wants the cycle to end for good. So does the DO, naturally. But it's safe to assume that AMoL will not end with the DO destroying the pattern and everything, so the only way for the cycle to end is Rand's way - kill the DO. It is important to know that killing the DO might not be the only way to end the cycle, it's merely the only way Rand considers. But now with Zen Rand around fresh ideas may come up in AMoL. Elan himself, having studied the cycle for so long, may provide clues. Finally there's Fain - a volatile addition to the already-unstable concoction that is brewing up near Shayol Ghul. I say there's a good chance for the cycle ending with the good guys winning. And in such a case there's no reason for Elan not to come on board and help secure this victory. He may even die in the process, maybe he'll even strive for it.
  14. That would be really interesting. and incredibly bad. I am not certain they have the power to grant such a wish. They are not gods after all. Certain things are not within their power, else why would they even make treaties with the Aes Sedai, create doorways between their world and Randland and make rules for visitors? The way I see it, the Finns only have power over things/people in their world and to a lesser extent, things/people that have visited their world. Rand has visited them, true, but he hasn't made any bargains. He only got questions answered and left. The Aelfinns even showed him hostility and he had to use a flaming sword to keep them at bay - it implied they didn't want anything to do with him, they wanted him gone. Mat's memories imply that the Finns can somehow access the memories of people who have visited the tower and since some of these memories show death, it means that they can access memories of said people after they have been to the tower. Mat is worried that they may have strings attached to him, but we have no evicence for that. In conclusion I believe it unlikely the Finns can influence anyone in Randland, let alone powerfully enough to make him fall in love with someone else. Quietly collecting memories is one thing, super-powerful compulsion aimed at the Dragon Reborn through time, space and worlds quite another. ETA: The 13th depository confirms my speculation on the Eelfin. http://13depository.blogspot.com/2009/03/tor-questions-of-week.html#eelfin
  15. As I was drawing near to the end of the audiobook yesterday evening, I was becomming more and more concerned there wouldn't be enough time for Mat to 'properly' save Moiraine. Then it happened and it was epic. And then the epilogue came and it blew all this away. The only things of interest to me there were the red-veiled men ('Aiel') and Rand's dream. Starting with the lesser - we have absolutely no evidence to believe those men were Aiel, besides the ramblings of a nearly-dead caravan-fellow. As I was listening to this part at ~4am and drifting to sleep already, my only connection was to un-Tarna - somehow they seemed brainwashed in the same manner. Let me say tho, I had not reached the 13x13 conclusion then and even now, when everyone seems to believe Tarna was 13x13 I am not certain it's that simple, especially given those men. Now that I think about it, how has nobody mentioned Fain yet? You forgot him already, just because he was in the Prologue only? Shame. He is in the blight, moving to SG on foot ... killing everything in his way and raising it to serve him. He could've stumbled upon some Aiel and converted them. That discounts the Tarna/red-veiled men connection tho, since Fain couldn't have zombied her. Another thing we have no evidence to believe is that those red-veiled cannibals can channel. People are just jumping to conclusions: "Oh that caravan guy says they look like Aiel, so they must be Aiel. Aiel in the blight? Only possibility is they are those men who went north. There, we figured it!". On the contrary we have sufficient evidence to believe they cannot channel. Why kill with their weapons/teeth? Why wander the blight alone? Why bother with a nearly-dead caravan driver? Surely in the eve of TLB the Shadow's channelers have more important things to do than cannibalizing corpses. With that I conclude that we simply do not have enough information for anything, but speculation. And there are probably more possibilities than where D is. Moving to #5 or as I see it, the grandest thing in the entire book. Again people seem quick at jumping to conclusions: "Obviously a trap, Moridin mentioned 1 page ago that 'this chance has been given to another', Rand is a sucker, etc". I don't wanna go into "how Rand got the dream" topic, as this might have to do with Rand-Moridin's connection and thats a vast ocean of possibilities and speculations (one that even Mat's dice might not get right). What interests me more is Mierin's motives/sincerety. Maybe I'm as big a sucker as Rand is, but I think Mierin is honest. When Rand initially sees her he doesn't recognize her (new body). Only when he looks deep into her eyes and sees her soul he knows. With his new powers to see through darkfriends' lies and his ability to recognize souls, I don't think he can be fooled by a simple act. Now as for Mierin's motives - she drilled the bore and was the first(?) of the Forsaken to declare for the Shadow. Yet, from what we've seen of her agenda, we can conclude it is a bit off from the DO's. 10/13 of the Chosen want to become NB. Demandred wants to kill LTT. Ishamael wants to end all things. Lanfear wants LTT to love her and to have THE power. Back in TSR-TFH when she often visited Rand we saw her fascination with the CK - she wanted to find the access keys more than anything, she suggested that she and Rand can use them to overthrow the GL and the Creator. When she learns that Rand is 'cheating' on her, she is mad enough to kill him (literally, one of Moiraine's 3 possible outcomes was that she killed him), which is directly against the DO's plans at that time. Mierin strikes me as the kind of person who puts her desires above and beyond anything else, even common sense and self-preservation. She is aware what tortures the DO is capable of, but she doesn't shy from speaking of overthrowing him. None of the other Chosen even think about that. We haven't really seen a PoV of hers, but if she dares say such things aloud, what might she be thinking? After ToM I believe the lack of a Lanfear PoV is intentional for other reasons as well. Now imagine this kind of person back in the corner, with one last chance (Cyndane), humbled and tortured by the Shadow and nearly robbed of free will. Do you really believe her final act will be to act as bait for Rand? Can you even consider Mierin allowing to be used for such a lowly plot? Oh, I am not saying such a plot doesn't exist. Moridin might believe he can use her as bait. But he doesn't really understand her and this is why he doesn't see his leverage over her is not as big as it would be over anyone else in the same situation. Last argument before I close my case: it has long been speculated by Ishamael that the DO's true goal is not to 'win', but simply do destroy everything. Shatter reality, break the wheel of time, slay the serpent, tear the pattern. And Ishamael is OK with that, his philosophical views are on the same track, he wants the same thing. Nobody else knows this. But if anyone else were to deduce this, it would be Mierin. She obviously knows more about the Shadow and the DO than anyone but Ishamael. She might have the missing piece on how to seal the Bore, but it is as likely that she helps Rand in figuring out how to slay the DO. It would be the perfect redemption. I've always perceived her as having no choice in joining the Shadow. She isn't evil like Demandred and Semirhage, fond of torture and other atrocities. She isn't without alternatives, like some of the weaker forsaken (Asmodean, Mesaana), who also turned to the Shadow for petty reasons. But most of all, she lacks the most important Chosen attribute - selfishness. With regards to LTT she is as selfless as any woman in love can be. In TSR-TFH when Rand barely had a handful of shared memories with LTT, she was willing to risk everything in helping him. And she did - she ended up mindtrapped for 7+ books, because she cares for Rand. None of the other Chosen are capable of such emotions. The DO made a critical error in his recruitment. Until 11 hours ago I was willing to bet against Mat that Fain will be the DO's undoing. But if Mierin lives until the final battle, I think it might as well be her.
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