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Jon Paul

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  1. Not true. Ishy's soul for one is often linked with the Dragon soul in that they are spun out much like Birgitte and Gaidal. Has this been confirmed by Jordon or his collaborators? I know that Ishamael believed that he had forever been involved in the confrontation with the Dragon. But I always read that as being a sign of his madness (which I believe he was driven too by his own dispair and use of the True Power), and arrogance. Rand said that the Dark One would never let his soul go, not him, his favoured champion, but I wonder what control the Dark One can have over souls now that he has been sealed away again. Nor do I think that the Pattern would purposely spin out an anti-Dragon, as it were. The Pattern is all about balance, and that's what Rand provides as a ta'veren. He is not "all Light", thus forcing the Pattern to spin out one that is "all Shadow". Yes, at the end Rand's ta'veren nature began only to spin the Pattern towards the "good" side, but as he explained, that was in response to the Dark One's touching the Pattern. The Dark One was causing enough evil as it was, that Rand became the focal point of the Pattern's re-balancing of Creation. Furthermore, I believe that a purposely spun out Champion of the Shadow would be contradictory to the nature of free will in the universe. As I said above, I believe there's no need for an anti-Dragon to balance Lews Therin/Rand al'Thor because of the Dragon's own nature being a balance of good and bad. But to say that there's always a person purposely spun out to stand in contradiction to the Dragon would be to say that the Pattern purposefully puts a soul in a position of being evil, thus not giving them a choice.
  2. Egwene's death didn't quite make u quits. It's only that she suffered Gawyn's death beforehand that I'll call it even with her after the horrible and disgusting thing she did to Nyn'.
  3. I've never been a fan of the use of the True Power in sealing away the Dark One. It has never made any logical sense to me. I've already dissented from Rand's decision not to kill the Dark One. I'm open to being convinced but I really doubt I will be. But I have been thinking about the True Power and these are my (unstructured) thoughts. I do not believe the Dark One is greater than the Pattern. He can royally screw it up, recreate it in his own vision, etc. But he can't make it simply cease to exisit. The Pattern is inifite. It's weave can vary though. And you don't want the Dark One "varying" it. He cannot break the Wheel nor slay the great serpent. He can only tie it up in funny shapes. The Dragon is the focal point of the Pattern. That's what ta'veren is, it's a mechanism of the Pattern used to correct the weave. Rand was not the Creator's Avatar. He was the Pattern's avatar, he was the ultimate ta'veren. He was in a way the spoke upon which the Wheel spun (don't read too much metaphysics in to this yet, it's all just random thoughts right now). I believe that the necessity of using the True Power to seal the Dark One is that, since he is a being of pure Chaos, to impose Order on him, is his Prison. The very act of weaving with the True Power is imposing order on it. Normally it serves the Dark One's purpose when it is done in the Pattern because it's a foreign energy that's mutilating the pattern. But imposing order to it, outside the Pattern, is bad, bad, bad for the Dark On, with the True Source acting like the glue. The Dark One can't fight what Rand was doing because an inherently superior entity (almost the Pattern given conciousness) was imposing Order, the very antithesis of the Dark One, on him. Like... The True Power is like untied and unlaced shoe-laces. And Rand comes along and threads them through the shoes and ties them. Imposing order on them! Essentially this comes down to: if Mat had been given charge of defeating the Dark One he would have won the Last Battle whilst discussing boots with Settale.
  4. Lews Therin didn't inspire any one to open the Bore. He had nothing to do with Lanfear's project. And nor was he a destroyer. He preserved to the best of his abilities.
  5. I did not find Demandred to be entirely "off". The man once captured two cities-cities of the Age of Legends mind you!-and fed every inhabitant, man, woman and child, to the trollocs. Because he felt they had slighted him... Can you think of the hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, that died? Because some guy probably bumped into him in the street and didn't say sorry? Demandred has always been a stark-mad lunatic. And his personally wanting to crush Lews Therin isn't new. He was always out on the field in the first War and rarely governed because he wanted to beat Lews Therin. Every single thing about Demandred is set to destroy the Dragon. It doesn't matter how crazy it seems. Hell Demandred probably realised how screwed up he was. But he was screwed up. Envy had destroyed him. Regarding his sword-fighting abilities... Why is their surprise? Elan was a philosopher and theologian of the Age of Legends and even he knew his way around a sword. Is it really any surprise that DEMANDRED wouldn't? Elan likely used the sword as a form of exercise. It was a sport in those days. But when they turned that sport to its original ends... Really, you think Demandred would have just sat by? When Lews Therin took it up?
  6. But the Dark One is no longer touching the Pattern. The Wheel still spins, the Pattern still weaves. There is both good and evil in their world. Free will and choice remain. Yet the Dark One does not. Rand's just doomed the world to another cycle and another battle.
  7. I need to agree with Karistina. I didn't really understand this part. The Dark One exists outside of the Pattern. But the Pattern is not inherently good is it? It's neither good nor evil. It just is. Without the Dark One why would everyone become these lifeless "Light-bots"? The Dark One is locked away now and cannot touch the pattern. Evil still exists in their world. Rand blew it. He should be destroyed him utterly.
  8. I'm tempted to re-read. We've only got a month left... I have other time commitments such as college and a girlfriend... but I think I'll give it ago. At least for the early books.
  9. Dude I miss your posts on this subject. Honestly the Egwene-bashing threads just aren't any fun without your participation. I'm not joking when I say that any thread I open here I always press ctrl + f and search for your name.
  10. I'm very upset about the e-book release date. I'm furious actually. That this great series will be translated to electronic format... it's horrible! E-books must be destroyed and purged for mankind's history. They're the worse thing to happen to humanity since the great flood. As far as I'm concerned if you want to read you do it properly!
  11. Well looking at Celtic Football Club in Glasgow as an example the fans sing the Irish song Fields of Athenry. Rather than sing you can say it's more "chanted". But on YouTube you'll easily find the song actually sung, accompanied with instruments, etc. So even though like you I always imagined the soldiers using it as a marching tune, I could just as easily imagine them using this version in the taverns of the land, around their camp-fires after victory in small groups, etc.
  12. WTF? The world ends on the 21st of December! Now we'll never read the last volume!
  13. [reallife]I'm delaying entering a religious monastery until I've read the last book, so hopefully I'll die on a bed of straw [/reallife]
  14. Don't worry guys, Galad's going to get an epic fighting scene in the final book, then we can put it to rest.
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