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  1. Debunking Superstitions by Tuon Paendrag
  2. It would've been more believable if Rand manages to make the three woman in love with him, but the three women hate each other's guts. I have known friends who had mistresses, never have I met a mistress and wife who did not try to tear each other's hair out.
  3. It's a white lie, a necessary one that Egwene couldn't get out of. You must remember she is young and to be honest I can empathize with her a bit on this. She did finally admit the truth to the Wise Ones when it was time for her to go so she never really wanted the deception to be viewed as the reality imo.
  4. I used to think that those criticizing the new "Mat" were just a vocal minority trying to nitpick Sanderson's writing, but on one family gathering where all my relatives are present we got to discussing WOT. I got an Uncle, an Aunt, one brother and three sisters that read WOT the same as I do. Turns out, all of them thought Mat was off for one reason or another. My uncle thought Mat tries too hard to be funny since TGS. My Aunt says Mat has lost his introspection, it used to be funny to see that what he thinks is very different from what he does. The rest of the brood basically agreed with her. I personally think Mat's alright, but I guess alot more people believe otherwise.
  5. LOL reading comprehension FTL. that's it the we've jumped the shark. let's just move on.
  6. so mat is called the leader of the band by some and the raven prince by others. he's both. just because chet says he's the leader of the band means all commoners think the same? wow that's fantastic logical leap right there. just because a noble does not know does not mean the commoners don't know? I don't understand your logic that nobles should know things first when in fact the band's people are telling their stories in Inns and with fellow mercenaries, logic follows that the commoners would know first before nobles. Guybon knows a lot of stories concerning mat from the commoners, he asks mat about those stories, don't you think he'd get that they call him raven prince as well? in the chapter of a Cup of Kaf in KOD: Loune told Karede that their armies bloodied by mat were composed mostly of amadicians and taraboners. it's the nobles that hate the seanchan not the commoners. you really need to start being less arrogant thinking your opinions are facts and not subject to debate. You just dont seem to get it. You are the one presenting opinions. Guybon never mentions the title to Mat yet you said he does. You said why dont they call him "Leader of the Band" and I provided a quote showing they do. You claim they all treat the title with "awe" and I proved the Birgitte has no idea what it means. If you think Nobles in this world do not know far more about invading forces than commoners you are totally delusional. All of this is proved with quotes from the book. Now who is presenting opinions here? does all = birgitte? did you study logic 101? did anybody spit or curse when they mention the title the Prince of the Raven? give me quote where do the AS get their news? from nobles? are their eyes and ears nobles or commoners? where did the news of falme come from? from merchants, traders. what is the way shown to us that people get their news, is it not via wagon merchants? show me a quote where it is said that news come from nobles. Nobles and AS have the best information networks period. They are the ones that the merchants report to as they are the ones with the money. Usurp just please stop with all the belligerence. Every time something you have claimed is proven wrong you jump to another subject and totally ignore what has come before. The point wasn't if "people spit or curse" when they hear the title your initial claim was that "everyone treats the title with awe and respect", that they know all about the Seanchan and how they are such good rulers, that is plainly not the case and it is on you to prove that it is. If most commoners in Andor knew what the title means the General of the country most certainly would. It is common sense that Nobles know more about the royalty and titles of other nations. To claim otherwise is totally ridiculous. if the merchants are the ones who report, then that means that they know the news first. get a grip, you claim NOBLES know the news first. I have proven with the 2 chapters I cited that the Seanchan are accepted by the commoners, even some of the nobles. Try to read you fail at logic, this is my last post on this matter, I don't want to continue talking to you about it.
  7. oh really lets see: Thom was saying that very few people resent the seanchan rule. commoners that do resent it are mostly those who's had relatives collared and even Nathin a noble would not fight them, so not even all nobles are against the Seanchan. Thom has no proof that others would resent the seanchan, he is hoping they do, he cites Amadicia and Tarabon and yet we see alot of the seanchan armies are composed of Amadicians and Taraboners. Follow your own advice and start reading the book without blinders and stop taking things out of context maybe. As many have pointed out that only refers to Ebou Dar and their are distinct reasons why that is the case. Thom's opinion that they wont find the same reception is backed up in the books with the guerilla war happening against the Seanchan. Are you totally forgetting the scenes with Ituralde leading the revolt across Tarabon and all the commoners raising up and switching sides? did you even read the quotes I gave to contradict what you just said about thom's opinion on the matter? Ituralde and all his nobles, was backed up and about to die because the Seanchan has him surrounded. If those farmers behind the Seanchan army really wanted to fight, don't you think Ituralde would've armed them and gotten 200k more troops out of them? it is clear those farmers were told they would just be used as decoys so they obliged their lords and nobles. The farmers trailing the seanchan was a ruse, they were not meant to fight. If those farmers wanted to fight they could've and would've joined Ituralde's main army like the farmers flocking to Perrin's army. Any man willing to fight will do so. The farmers behind would have marched if their nobles ordered them to, that does not mean that they wanted to die for them.
  8. so mat is called the leader of the band by some and the raven prince by others. he's both. just because chet says he's the leader of the band means all commoners think the same? wow that's fantastic logical leap right there. just because a noble does not know does not mean the commoners don't know? I don't understand your logic that nobles should know things first when in fact the band's people are telling their stories in Inns and with fellow mercenaries, logic follows that the commoners would know first before nobles. Guybon knows a lot of stories concerning mat from the commoners, he asks mat about those stories, don't you think he'd get that they call him raven prince as well? in the chapter of a Cup of Kaf in KOD: Loune told Karede that their armies bloodied by mat were composed mostly of amadicians and taraboners. it's the nobles that hate the seanchan not the commoners. you really need to start being less arrogant thinking your opinions are facts and not subject to debate. You just dont seem to get it. You are the one presenting opinions. Guybon never mentions the title to Mat yet you said he does. You said why dont they call him "Leader of the Band" and I provided a quote showing they do. You claim they all treat the title with "awe" and I proved the Birgitte has no idea what it means. If you think Nobles in this world do not know far more about invading forces than commoners you are totally delusional. All of this is proved with quotes from the book. Now who is presenting opinions here? does all = birgitte? did you study logic 101? did anybody spit or curse when they mention the title the Prince of the Raven? give me quote where do the AS get their news? from nobles? are their eyes and ears nobles or commoners? where did the news of falme come from? from merchants, traders. what is the way shown to us that people get their news, is it not via wagon merchants? show me a quote where it is said that news come from nobles.
  9. oh really lets see: Thom was saying that very few people resent the seanchan rule. commoners that do resent it are mostly those who's had relatives collared and even Nathin a noble would not fight them, so not even all nobles are against the Seanchan. Thom has no proof that others would resent the seanchan, he is hoping they do, he cites Amadicia and Tarabon and yet we see alot of the seanchan armies are composed of Amadicians and Taraboners. Follow your own advice and start reading the book without blinders and stop taking things out of context maybe.
  10. so mat is called the leader of the band by some and the raven prince by others. he's both. just because chet says he's the leader of the band means all commoners think the same? wow that's fantastic logical leap right there. just because a noble does not know does not mean the commoners don't know? I don't understand your logic that nobles should know things first when in fact the band's people are telling their stories in Inns and with fellow mercenaries, logic follows that the commoners would know first before nobles. Guybon knows a lot of stories concerning mat from the commoners, he asks mat about those stories, don't you think he'd get that they call him raven prince as well? in the chapter of a Cup of Kaf in KOD: Loune told Karede that their armies bloodied by mat were composed mostly of amadicians and taraboners. it's the nobles that hate the seanchan not the commoners. you really need to start being less arrogant thinking your opinions are facts and not subject to debate.
  11. I certainly hope not, perhaps this is the scenario that would cause Egwene to realize her flaws and grow. The AS and the whole of Randland needs a strong and able Amyrlin and nobody is better than Egwene at the moment. Hopefully she and Elayne can have an understanding regarding the influence the WT has on Andor and Cairhien.
  12. I see, so why don't they call Mat, the Leader of the Band then? The whole of Randland knows who the Seanchan are. Actually was rereading ToM and the very first person we see discuss the rumors... ToM "The End of a Legend" and then later... ToM The gaurdsmen got it wrong, while Birgitte doesn't know what it means and makes no connection to the Seanchan. If the General of Andor doesn't know the title then commoners most certainly do not. It is just another fantastical name to go along with the other rumors. I don't understand how those quotes equate to the people not knowing what the Raven Prince mean. The captain knows who the Raven Prince is, Guybon certainly knows. Mat's army are the ones spreading their stories and exploits. why is that? because the readers hate the seanchan? I don't see non seanchan commoners hating them, in fact the books emphasize that tinkers, invaded folks and even Rand feel the seanchan are good rulers. Thom has told Perrin about Mat's marriage, I'll assume Faile knows but she did not "imprison or kill him". Moiraine was told about Mat's marriage to the Empress, she's Aes Sedai but I did not see her expressing even a flash of anger, gratitude aside. Not even a flicker of distaste. Elayne told Mat she wants to know who she is married to in their upcoming dinner, and I don't see Mat, Thom and Talmanes lying about Tuon. We see Elayne helping mat with the Gholam afterwards as well.
  13. wikipedia has a list of each book and a summary. also try http://www.tor.com/blogs/2009/02/wheel-of-time-re-read-index#EOTW
  14. Actually, I doubt that most of the da'covale resent their station. That's what they're used to and what they expect. Doesn't make it OK. When your lot in life is to serve the Blood in skimpy outfits and do whatever you're told with no freedom, and then be expected to commit suicide if your master dies, that's a sucky life. Whether you (meaning the da'covale) realize it or not. I agree. I certainly wouldn't want to be one.
  15. Death is lighter than a feather, Duty heavier than a mountain. It would seem this saying does not apply only to Malkieri. Perhaps they were loyal to the death? that is how I perceived it. High Lord Turak was a great man, second in line after Tuon. We see how much Selucia and Karede value their loyalty to Tuon, I am sure if Tuon dies, Selucia and all her property would commit suicide. When a shogun dies, all his samurai commit sepuku by tradition as a mark of great loyalty, maybe this is where RJ got the inspiration. We look at da'covale and property and think they MUST resent their station. The book in fact makes it a point to say most property of the High Blood consider it a great honor. Perhaps we should look at them not in the lens of reality but how RJ wanted them seen and how he presented it.
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