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Jnai

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  1. I think the fundamental problem with Moiraine is that because she has to be near Rand, and because of the Inception-Style time flow that characterizes Rand's position relative to the rest of the characters, there's nothing really that she could do. I mean, there's no long sequence she could possibly be involved in, because it wouldn't make temporal sense. But - do we ever find out what she asked for aside from her angreal? Do we know what knowledge she gained or gifts she received?
  2. I missed that entirely. Where was that? Was it just an oddity of the Pattern fraying? Hinderstap was the village that the Band of the Red Hand encounters in TGS Chapter 27/28.
  3. I believe I can answer that without even reading the book. Did anyone other than Rand (and perhaps Nynaeve and Moraine), Forsaken and other DF's actually saw Moridin and knew he was one of the Forsaken other than one of multiple young men running around at the time? Yes. For example, Flinn knows ("We don't know why the Lord Dragon would save one of the Forsaken, but it doesn't matter", p. 895). Nynaeve is seen complaining that Moridin will live while Rand dies to Loial. Presumably, Lan knows (he's present during the Loial Scene).
  4. I just wish someone could explain the ending to me. Why are they all so unconcerned when Rand's biggest enemy suddenly reanimates and walks away during his funeral? How could he possibly think that he would be left alone to wander the world? Wouldn't he be the most wanted man ever in existence?
  5. The only thing that really felt like clear Brandon to me was Androl's use of Gateways - using them as weapons, to cut rope, to redirect weaves, to make tea, to throw lava on enemies, etc. If you've read his other work, you know he has a thing for pushing the boundaries of his magic systems - "If a character could really do this thing and do it well and do it creatively, what would he do with the power?" That felt like Sanderson to me.
  6. Why? The Seanchan are very different than the culture we've spent the most time with in Randland, but fundamentally the Seanchan aren't much better or worse. In Randland, women with power are, once discovered by the White Tower, essentially taken from their families and trained in this Illuminati-like society that attempts to control the entire world. Aes Sedai are more powerful than Kings and Queens. The power structure in the tower is what'd you expect from third grade bullies - more powerful is better. And, there's an entire section of them that scours the land for any male channelers, removing their power. Of course, we know some of them, like Moiraine and Siuan, and we know some of their intentions, which happen to be good, so we sympathize with them. And, we happen to stumble upon the White Tower in a period where, because of Rand and internal divisions, their influence is muted. But imagine Elaida as Amyrlin unchecked by the greater problems in society and you'd have the White Tower that almost all of the inhabitants of Randland hate. Few people in the culture trust the "Witches of Tar Valon". They're seen by much of Randland (rightly or wrongly) as a menacing force that controls and manipulates in order to satisfy mysterious ends. Contrast that with the Seanchan: Women who can channel in their culture are leashed to be used as military weapons or industrial tools. The societal power structure is undamaged by channeling. There is no mysterious tower that controls the land. It seems horrific to us, because we've seen free characters like Egwene get leashed and because we've learned about channeling through Moiraine as a wonderful mystery of awesome power that can be used as a force of good. But, let's face it, the people of Seanchan certainly don't seem to want any different (there's Seanchan ex-Damane who still beg to be re-leashed). I think the reason the Seanchan seem so vile is because they have exactly the opposite cultural values with respect to the One Power as does the White Tower, and we've learned to love the White Tower (at least the good version!) as portrayed by Moiraine and Egwene. But I don't really know that the White Tower solution, which is controlling all kingdoms and being mysterious manipulators, is really any better in the end. I mean, my heart did break reading those Aviendha chapters, but when you think about it really, if you were to read those chapters chronologically rather than in the emotionally draining way they were presented: The Aiel picked a fight with the Seanchan, who are a much more powerful, ruthless, and organized military force. Then, the Aiel decided to escalate the situation, dragging the rest of the peaceful world into the fight by deception and lies. Then, the Aiel, completely broken, decided to continue fighting. And then, they were beaten soundly into the ground. If this happens to the Aiel, it sounds like it will be the fault of one obsessively militaristic and stupid society: the Aiel. I'm hoping it doesn't happen, but it's hard to blame the Seanchan for this one.
  7. Least we can enjoy reality, though instead of worrying about sins and stuff. I haven't worried about sinning in the Biblical sense for a long long time. It actually sort of makes me angry when I find out that someone is religious; Brandon has lost even more cool points, there. I mean, you know, to each their own and all, but if he tries turning WoT into some big Mormon allegory I'm going to be really pissed, In the Biblical sense. There were actually a couple of lines in ToM that made me wonder if BS was a god person. I don't know if RJ was or not. So, Sanderson has written two books (Elantris and Warbreaker) that both dealt heavily with themes of religion, godhood, and what it means to be divine. The Mistborn series (especially the last two books and the beautiful ending to the series) dealt heavily with these things as well. But, none of these were "big Mormon allegory". I would say that Sanderson is a god person, in the sense that he struggles with questions of faith and religion. His novels often question what it means to be worship, what it means to read a holy text, or what it means to practice a religious ritual. He deals with the power of religion to act as both a manipulator and savior of men. But he's pretty clearly not a blind-faith Jesus-freak, if that's what you mean by a "god person".
  8. So, is there any hope for a Lanfear redemption? Of all the Forsaken apart from Ishmael, Lanfear has played probably the largest role in the series. Her motivations have always been dubious; she's always seemed more power-hungry and LTT-hungry than obviously working for the Dark One. While some forsaken seem simply too far gone to ever turn (can anyone really imagine a "good" version of Graendal?), we've known Lanfear's pre-forsaken name and story for quite some time. Given the Epilogue, is there any chance that she makes one final good act against the shadow in the name of Lews Therin? When push comes to shove, when she has to choose between the Dark One and LT, do you think there's any hope?
  9. Maybe this should go in "Moiraine's Arc", but of course then the thread title would be a spoiler, so... What do we think that Moiraine would have asked for? Why would one of the things have been an Angreal?
  10. This was personally the most powerful and heart-rending chapter in the entire series that I can recall. All of the other stories and plotlines in the book had such intricate lead-ins and development, this was just sort of dumped on the reader in a very forceful and twisted way. I was completely unprepared. What a great passage.
  11. Hi all. First post. =) TGH: Ba'alzamon stared at him. "Why are you grinning like an idiot, fool? Do you not know I can destroy you utterly?" Rand felt a calmness beyond that of the void. "I will never serve you, Father of Lies. In a thousand lives, I never have. I know that. I'm sure of it. Come. It is time to die."
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