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  1. Except I never said that. BZZZT! Try again.
  2. Sounds pretty standard compared to how Warders have generally been expected to act by their Aes Sedai. If anything it seems fairly generous, given his extremely questionable history. No matter how many times people repeat this in thread after thread' date=' it doesn't stop being stupid. Here's an analogy to illustrate the ridiculousness of that argument: Mentally unbalanced CEO of a corporation suspects corporate espionage. Decides the solution is to plant pipe bombs throughout the organization's campus and blow them up, since that will certainly "deal with" the disloyal employee in question. Except that in this case, Rand's chosen course of action -- and he's a guy who's shown himself repeatedly to be pretty well on the way to insanity in the past -- is, as far as Egwene or just about anyone else in the series knows, likely to [i']destroy the world[/i]. Something that, incidentally, he was in fact considering doing a couple hours earlier. Demanding an alternate plan from Egwene is like yelling at the vice president who tries to stop the CEO, "YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A PLAN TO DEAL WITH CORPORATE ESPIONAGE YOURSELF." Maybe not, but that doesn't mean stopping the CEO from blowing up corporate headquarters isn't a good first step.
  3. I was never quite sure what to make of that, because the "Blood" encompasses several different ranks. The Low Blood and the High Blood are hardly even the same class of people, and even within the High Blood it's clear that not everyone is equal. Do the High Blood actually treat the Empress's so'jhin as equals? If so, that would imply that the Low Blood might have to treat them as superiors. Or if they're equal to the Low Blood, than someone of high rank probably doesn't.
  4. Funny, I just reread the book and this stuck out to me as well. I figured the same as you.
  5. Not necessarily, to be sure, but that doesn't mean it's not applicable sometimes. A certain degree of sexism on the part of the author is hard to ignore, though, and readers who fail to recognize that earn my ire. Duh, it means she went against Rand. It's not exactly that I'm surprised to see someone say this' date=' but viewing the WoT universe as sexist against men, given what we've seen, is just really nutty. No one believes him. Fuck, Birgitte didn't even initially believe that Elayne was the daughter-heir. This is stupid.
  6. Yes. That has been firmly established of Callandor. And all the Aes Sedai who've ever given descriptions of it state that the Choedan Kal are just too powerful for anyone to use. That it's inherent and unavoidable due to how powerful they are. There is just literally zero textual support for your hypothesis here, and you're presenting it as though it's fact.
  7. Seriously? The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe, on its own, has sold far more books than the entire Wheel of Time series, as has the first Harry Potter novel. The Lord of the Rings (debatable if you want to call that a "series") vastly outpaces the Wheel of Time. Figures I've found suggest Discworld is more popular as well, but numbers I've found for some of these are out of date. Of course, be careful if you choose to judge a book by its popularity. Twilight has also outsold the Wheel of Time.
  8. Magnets do not work that way.
  9. There is no contradiction there because there's nothing -- seriously, nothing -- in the text, at least so far, that hints that the fact that the Choedan Kal are too powerful to be used on their own has any relationship to the manufacturing flaw in Callandor. There's nothing in the text that supports the idea that the (very vague) similarity you point out has the same cause or can be dealt with in the same way. This assertion cannot be supported in the case of the Choedan Kal. Everywhere in the text it's said that the danger of Choedan Kal is inherent in their immense power, not that they were manufactured imperfectly like Callandor.
  10. Plus, she may well have done MORE training of damane than most sul'dam. When Renna first collars Egwene, she mentions that many sul'dam will train her, and that sul'dam rarely get the pleasure of being "complete", because they outnumber damane so much. The Daughter of the Nine Moons probably gets to spend as much time training damane as she wants, which, since she seems to enjoy it may mean it's a lot. Plus, her skill at it may bespeak having had a lot of practice.
  11. This all relies on the absolutely unsupportable assertion that there's some kind of similarity between the Choedan Kal and Callandor. Nothing in the text suggests that anywhere. What's said over and over is that the Choedan Kal are just too powerful to be used on their own -- there's obviously some upper limit to how powerful a sa'angreal can be (gotten around, in the case of the Choedan Kal, with the access keys.) Callandor won't burn you out instantly, it just fails to contain the fail-safe that normal sa'angreal have. Nothing suggests that those two phenomena are related.
  12. Nigh impossible? Have you actually read the books? Because most of the ordinary Andorans we've met seem to be middle class merchants and entrepreneurs. I can't see how you could possibly claim that they can't "forward" themselves. Except, of course, that there's no evidence that it's common to rise in life in Seanchan outside of the military. Much like, say, Fascist Italy. And don't forget that Spain's Generalísimo Franco's plan for succession after his death was the restoration of the monarchy under Juan Carlos I. Except that apparently it can be. If you can't get basic facts right, you can't really argue this point. A wealthy trading nation that, judging by the comments about Murandians calling themselves by their cities, was apparently governed by small local governments, and stable enough that people there were perfectly able to make their living. If you call it "anarchy" because the central government is weak, you might as well say the same for Switzerland. Your fetish for a single authoritarian centralized power is showing. Illian wasn't in famine before the events surrounding the Dragon's rebirth. The fair comparison to the famine of Illian would be living in the midst of the empire-encompassing civil war that is Seanchan. Nope, I already said I wouldn't want to live there. Wouldn't be my first choice, but then, if I were a regular person I probably wouldn't be worried too much about the political machinations of the royal houses, either. Nope. It's true, a very small percentage of the Westlands is living in societies that are arguably worse than Seanchan. Crime haven? It was said that part of the city was pretty rough but since that's true of most big cities in the world today, I'm not seeing it as a dealbreaker. Commit a crime, see your children and their descendents enslaved permanently, or fail to bow at the wrong time when a member of the High Blood is being carried by on their sedan chair. Yep, sounds safe to me. It's a pretty weird one, dude.
  13. The fixation isn't on my part. It's just clear that over and over a certain segment of the fan-base is comically and excessively outraged by any character who doesn't defer to Rand in everything he does. Look at all the people saying things like "He's LEWS THERIN and he's a TA'VEREN and HOW DARE YOU TRY TO INTERFERE WITH HIM." It's ridiculous.
  14. You're right, that's fair. However, it's not surprising that the Rand fanboys tend to like her so much, given her servile attitude. I'm not saying I don't like her, mind, and she DID treat him and the other boys badly at times -- and I do think it was the only thing that would have worked in her circumstance. I just think it's telling that all of his favorite characters are people who aren't likely to challenge Rand.
  15. Oh, this should be good, I can't wait. So, then, by your own admission, Rand's accomplishments are telling a couple guys to move their armies to Saldaea, even though logically a few thousand soldiers are not going to be much help the next time HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Trollocs come in, and using his magical powers to save one city, one time (although not until it was already overrun and thousands of people died.) That's cool. I'm sure Kandor and Arafel will be fine. And Lan has literally thousands of men at his side, to deal with the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Trollocs who are about to start pouring out of Tarwin's Gap. Yeah, this totally contradicts my point about how the only thing anyone had done for the Borderlands was (mostly) save one city. And hell, given that all it took was him stopping by for a couple hours to kill those HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Trollocs, why didn't he rest up for a night and then head to Shol Arbela and Chachin, which are presumably also under attack by HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Trollocs. Oh, and I like how the monarchs of the Borderlands are "utter idiots" because they did what they had to to fulfill a prophecy. And your comical outrage that MAN-GOD RAND AL'THOR had to show some humility in the face of four major world leaders. You, sir, are retarded if you think your post shows that. Let's see. Rand's best friend who hasn't challenged him in any way since about the second book in the series, the formerly strong woman who finally humbled herself before Rand, someone who's barely met Rand, Rand, and the woman who gives Rand unequivocal support in everything he does. Yeah, you have no problem with people who stand up to Rand at all, do you?
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