I honestly don't know. I didn't follow that much what was said in the interview and stuff like that. As I said, with the show's choice, I understand why some book readers are upset. And there's a lot I disagree with. That being said, I can also appreciate the courage the scenarists have to propose the change they have. The easy solution would have been just to follow the book as much as possible, they chose to bring their own vision. I can respect that. Hmm, I always had some doubts concerning how much the actor's leaving has impacted Mat's story. Oh, I don't doubt there was a negative impact, but with all the problems I have with Rand and Perrin's storyline, I have some doubt I would have liked Mat story, even without the problems the show has met with the actor. But of course, there is no way to know for sure, really. I also have some reservations about the whole dragon mystery. I feel it did bring some interesting elements to Season 1, but at the same time, it came with a heavy price for the whole show. That being said, my main problem with the way they have treated Rand is that some key elements of his story are missing. For example, book 1 ends with Rand canalising with the Eye of the World, saving the Shienar army. We understand why the Dragon Reborn is so important in this world. We learn in quite a spectacular way that, yes, Rand can use the One Power. One of the main points of the story, how fate has been written far in advance and is deeply connected to Rand, is shown when we understand that the Eye of the World was left here, in this place, several thousand years ago, to be used by Rand at this exact moment to help against the Dark One. Now, as I said, it's okay for the show to propose something different. But what did they do instead? We learn that Rand can use the One Power with a flashback while he's shooting some arrows. The notion of fate isn't mentioned, the Dragon Reborn didn't left any impact in the war with the Shienar, and the biggest revelation Rand have is that it's not okay to have a baby with Egwenne if she doesn't want to... *sigh*. That's the main problem I have with Rand story, it really seems to me the scenarist didn't want to present Rabd the same way the book did, which is fine. Except that they didn't have much to propose instead.

Lol, I feel bad always disagreeing with you, but no, I disagree. Or rather, yes, properly developing the wolf dream is indeed difficult. But there was a possibility for the show to introduce Perrin's difficulties controlling himself when he is near a wolf with just a few scenes. Sure, unlike in the book, we can't just know about his state of mind, but it's far from being impossible to show. And really, that's their job. Again, I remember watching Hopper's death a second time back then because I was confused about what happened. The show seems to indicate that the reason behind Perrin's anger is Hopper's death, not the feeling he shares with the other wolves here. Also, there aren't any other wolves present; there's that, too.

It's been some time, but from what I remember, Perrin's reaction comes from the fact that he shares the wolf emotion while fighting with them; basically, he becomes one with the pack. Because the book shows Perrin's state of mind, we understand what he feels, and so we understand his actions. And just in case, if the tv show have the same explanation (it really didn't seem like it), then fine, but their job was to devellop and explain this properly so that we can understand the scene. And they didn't...

Yep, that's exactly my point. Scenarists can write whatever they want, but at the end of the day, there are some expectations they will have to face. It's perfectly fine not to meet them... as long as they accept the risk to have some negative reaction from their spectator. Hmm, the importance for me isn't whether those elements are in the TV show or not. It's about their role in the story and what they are replacing if they aren't there. Let's take the Aelfinn. They are central in the book concerning Mat evolution. - If there aren't there, but the scenarist proposes another element to bring the same result, I'm fine with it. - If they aren't there, but it doesn't matter because Mat evolution is completely different, I'm also fine with that. - If they aren't there, but we got magically the same evolution with Mat, even though that doesn't make any sense, then yes, I have a problem. - If they aren't there, and the scenarist aren't proposing anything with Mat instead, then yes, I have a problem. Of course, I'm exaggerating here, but I feel that Rand, Perrin, and Mat sometimes get pretty close to the last two options. Well, that's where we disagree. My problem isn't that every character is properly developed early on. It's that Rand, Perrin, and Mat's story is negatively impacted, and that wasn't a fatality, it was the writer's choice. Was it easy to properly develop every character? Nope, it wasn't. But it seems to me they made some specific choice concerning the story they wanted to develop correctly and the one they wanted to rush. Again, they have the right to do it. But then, we return to my first point: they have to face the expectation people have, and the negative reaction some will have.

I did try to explain why those scenes didn't land and the problem behind. If you argue that those scenes were better than i thought, we can debate the quality of Rand and Perrin storyline... if you agree that they were bad, then we can, I think, agree that there were some problem with their storyline. But if your answer is just that "it"s your opinion and that's not an absolute truth," yeah, sure, you're right. But it seems to me you can answer any negative criticism like this. As for Egwene and Nynaeve... look I don't want to start another discussion concerning their stories. I feel the scenarist did a great job there. There are some problem, but the most important scene the scenarist wanted to focus on with their character was properly written and developed. If you disagree fine, though I'm a little surprised, I thought I was the one with a negative opinion here 😅 Also, just one correction: I think Perrin and Mat's story are rushed (again, season 1 and 2). Rand's story is a little different; it's more like his story feels empty. I already explained why. And yes, that's just my feeling and my opinion.

Hmm, not really...? My previous point was that Rand and Perrin's stories were rushed and half-developed. And, in my opinion, that was because the scenarists didn't want to focus their screen time too much on them, but instead were more interested in what I consider the Aes Sedai side (basically Moiraine, Egwene, and Nynaeve). Sure, this is just my opinion. I gave a few examples explaining why I thought some scenes concerning Rand and Perrin were missing some essential development and were negatively impacting the show. If those scenes were great in your opinion, well, let's just agree to disagree. Frankly, I fail to see how Perrin losing his mind after losing the wolf he talked with for about five seconds can be defended as a properly developed scene, but if that's your opinion, then fine by me.

I have to disagree with you here. To be more precise, I don't think it justifies the problem I'm talking about. Even if the "holes" I'm talking about are later developed correctly, the general quality of season 2 won't change. To take Perrin's example again, even if they manage to bring a great explanation about his reaction with Hopper, it won't change the fact that when I saw the scene, I was like, "Huh? That was weird." The scenarist's job is to make the whole show coherent and interesting. And that means that individual seasons are also supposed to be coherent and interesting. Don't get me wrong; they are... mostly. But there are still some problems. And even if they are "corrected later," well, a mistake corrected is still a mistake. It's better than nothing, but it's far from perfect. You're completely right that it's challenging to adapt a book correctly. But again, I don't think this is the main problem here. Many of the problems I'm talking about wouldn't have existed had the show focused on a few more scenes on some specific arc (concerning Rand, Perrin, and Mat). Instead, it feels rushed when Moiraine, Nynaeve, and Egwene's arcs are nearly perfectly developed (in season 2, season 1 writing is disastrous). It's not a problem of world-building and how to implement it. For me, it's a matter of priority and what the scenarist wanted to develop. And yes, it was ultimately a valid choice. They focused their screen time on the part they were the most interested in, and that's fair. But I also understand why some people are upset with this choice.

I probably should have specified that I'm still watching season 3, and so I'm reserving my judgment on this one. Still, even if it's doing better, the problem is still present in season 1 and 2, which, in my opinion, has a strong impact on the overall show. Let's take Perrin. In season 2, we have the scene when he finally kills a White Cloak after watching Hopper die. Two problems: The relationship with the wolf is completely rushed, which leaves absolutely no impact and makes Perrin's reaction very exaggerated. Second problem, the screen time that could have been used to flesh out Perrin's power and his relationship with the wolf were used on other stuff. Season 2 writing is far better than Season 1, so it was good stuff, like Moiraine arc with her family, or the focus on Nynaeve trials, doesn't change the fact that, for me, the scenarist clearly put a low priority on Perrin story. Rand is a little different. Yes, after season 1, they understood that they had to focus some screen time on his character. Yet, a lot of his relationships or accomplishments seem to be absent. And I'm not saying this as a fan of the book who wanted to see the scenes exactly as they were in the original material. My complaint is that most elements that were disappearing were replaced by nothing. For example, no relationship between Lan and Rand in season 2 ? Okay, I'm sure we will have something else replacing it. Hey, there's Logain, surely we will see a nice teacher/ student connection between the two of them and... nope, nothing. And from what I have read concerning season 3 final here, the problem is still the same. No arc showing Rand making a trap to have Asmodean as a teacher? Fine, surely, they will replace this by something else in season 3 and... nope. They did focus the final between him and Couladin, but from what a lot of people are saying, Couladin's threat are complelty under develloped in this season. Priority, priority. (Again, I'm still watching season 3, so maybe I'm unfair here, let's just say that my judgement on this last point is still suspended. It's just.... it seems very coherent with previous probem I have seen in season 1 and 2... )

Sure, you're right. The scenarist can have different visions about this show, and all of them are valid. I agree with you on that point. Yet, some of them will naturally upset book readers more than others, and that, too, is perfectly normal. To give an extreme example, let's imagine Amazon focuses much of season 4 on vegetable cultivation. Is that valid? Sure it is. Is that okay for book reader to be angry with that choice. I believe it is... I have to disagree here. From my point of view, their love for the book is very... partial. Or, to say it differently, there are some parts that they obviously love a lot, while some others don't seem to interest them. It's not a bad thing; after all, we are all a little like this, but Amazon scenarist seems to me a little... extreme on some specific points. Early in Season 1, when the show was still diffusing, I remember someone saying that they shouldn't have tried to adapt the books but rather should have made a spin-off focusing on the Aes Sedai and the White Tower. I agree with this. And I'm not saying this as an insult; I genuinely think they would have done a very good job. Unfortunately, from what I have seen, they aren't that interested in telling Rand al Thor's story, as the Dragon Reborn story, or Math and Perrin's story for what it's worth. No, it's not completely true. It's more like telling their story is a low priority for them. Is the show bad because of this? Not necessarily, but it's understandable that many readers have some problem with that choice.