Thank you. I try not to take it too serious because there are so many other things in the world to be worried over that are not fiction. And there truly are such great moments. And some of these actors seem like they could be absolute super stars with better writing. And then such awful confusing for lack of the better nonsense comes along. I can watch 20 minutes of an episode and be like what is this for! Every minute is precious and I just don't get the feel that it is always taken that way. That is what really gets me down. If it was just bad all the time it would be fine. Not really fine but like it would keep me at the same level. But the back and forth whiplash just gnaws at me. I feel like I am at a particular disadvantage as well. Like Perrin is my favorite character first read through and like 7 or 8 rereads later. I have found that to be a minority group over the years. I hate that his wolfbrother powers are basically yellow eyes. I get a lot of it is hard to translate to TV because its smells and hearing inside his head and communications with wolves. But he doesn't even really communicate with wolves. Like we see the wolf heads in the whitecloak camp and book readers know Luc/Slayer, but he should be taking about the lack of wolves as a plot set up for Slayer. And he should of interacted with Eg shortly in TAR in that dream to at least set the foreshadowing that he is also a dreamer. But others like Nyn with no fire. I would go so far as to call her timid most of the time in the show. And just not as strong and sure as she is in the books. Looking to heal/help Lin cause of her own relationship with her dead parents and Lin's son. Just no. Eg lying to the Wise Ones and just moving on. That was an important growth moment for her. Getting to running laps. Making Dreaming the easiest thing in the world for her to learn when it has such a complex ruled structure and important part of her and other's story about learning control. Her getting the ring and telling Siuan that she is leaving. They needed to get her to the Waste, but they separated her so much from the Tower that she is supposed to come back and run. Setting her up as a scorned lover when that is not at all what the confrontational relationship between her and Rand is based upon. And Siuan. From the low dirt hut fisherwoman to the highest peak one can reach to a new level of low. A different group could have got her out of the Tower and started the Salidar journey. Where we get to see her true strength that she does not need The Seat to move the world. The teaching moments of the Great Game played at the highest level. The secrets of the Tower law and history. Can Verin and Leane do this. Sure. I don't really expect a whole lot of politicking to go on in the show just cause they haven't so far and it is time consuming. So I can live with her dying, but she was so much more complex than Mo's love story which is only canon to some people to begin with. The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills and will continue turning regardless of my thoughts.

I have to agree. I'm glad that some people can find that they are happy with the show. I get to a content to sometimes a slight happy feeling good phase and then pops up an episode that I cannot get out of my head for how much I hated it. Like I really enjoyed Rand's visions from his ancestors and thought that Josha was great in that episode. I actually think most of the actors are really pretty darn good overall. I just think that the writing is just lacking. And in certain episodes it is so bad that it takes away so much not just from the IP but severely drops the quality of the show alone. Like you and probably a lot of the people that are still hanging around here I have loved the IP since I first picked the books up. Literally half my lifetime ago while I was still a teenager. Painfully waiting for the next book to come out. Although I was probably luckier than some of you all as I finished my first read through a few months before The Gathering Storm came out, so I didn't have to spend all that much time waiting. RJ had also passed shortly before I started reading the series, so I didn't live through the age of him and his tricky answers and RAFOs. But I read through so many of those interviews on the internet and was on Theoryland seeing and following along with people's personal predictions and the factions and arguments that everybody was making for why they had to be right. I loved and still love the story that RJ told. And the discussions it has spawned. And because of that I will not be able to stop watching this show until it is canceled or ends how it ends. Another plot hole tied into this hole. Unless I missed something in Mo's visions of her futures that we saw it seems like her deaths are tied to choking, stabbing, or throat cutting. I don't recall a scene in the visions where they are grappling and flying through the air or some kind of boom or explosion from the melting of the doorway as they slam together hard on the floor/ground both appearing dead before going black or cutting to a different possible future. Them not showing it as a possibility is I think another bad writing miss. Like they could have also had a scene of Mo tackling Lanfear off the top of the tower and falling toward the ground and a cut to other tackling scenes and flying through the air into dragonmount lava and/or onto a spear to not just give it away as THE future. Just something to establish that her death did not have to be slicing and dicing and might involve a fall of some sort. I get trying not to lay it on too thick, but they could have avoided outright showing them perfectly falling through the doorway or only shown a shadowy Finn's fancy skin boot in the periphery in the vision as they lay bleeding or unconscious on the ToG floor. I mean they did quite literally grapple and fly through the air in the actual battle scene, so its not like it would just give it away. I don't understand why they wouldn't show even a hint of it and other similar variants of the possible future that the book readers are expecting while at the same time setting up the Finns-Mat-possibly Min-ToG this season and then not even showing that Mo might be tied to it as well except because they moved the doorway from the Waste and were left with just stabby stab gore. And Mo and Rand bonding. Mo and Lanfear hooking up. Oh and Mo and Rand hooking up. Just wasteful seconds flashing by that drive the story absolutely nowhere and show an immaturity of Rafe or the writers needing to beat off more before coming into work. I get them not showing a falling or airborne death scene does not mean it won't happen. But it is bad foreshadowing to not show it for setting it up in the future the book readers are expecting especially now that the Finns have been introduced and they both didn't die. And show watchers now expecting a sword killing showdown. She saw a thousand thousand futures surely one was the scene you are imagining and might get in the future! Maybe but the only ones the show writers thought were important were the slicing and stabbing ones though. Because bad writing left them with only the scene that they gave us. They wrote themselves into a corner because they chose to have a Mo/Lanfear showdown this season and not next season. It was not necessary to have it this season. The wrote it that way. They chose to move the doorway locations because they chose to change Mat's storyline from the Waste and chose to show Elaida coming from a doorway that did not need to be located in the Tower for some new plot that they have made up. And because they chose not let bad horny Rand have a moment (other than making that dry desert wet! and even then Eg has to tell him to let go of the power and finish) He could have had to actually fight Samuel in a real battle after Sam ambushes him worn out from the columns. Show off his strength in Rhuidean similarly to the source material and accidently destroy the mist barrier so the doorframe and/or other Ter'angreal if there were any were revealed. Mo could have even came awake just in time to save the day and get him shielded with the sa'angreal. Rand actually could have had his big drawn out flashy battle and Mo also gets to stay the most important. It could have happened in episode 5 so we could explore the teaching aspect more. Maybe have a couple of disgruntled lessons before Mogy just killing Samuel. Maybe he could have found out how to test others to find out if they could channel so he can get started on the Black Tower plot the second he secures a city across the dragonwall. We could have had that battle and not whatever that was in episode 6. And he could kill a different little girl in Tear and try and heal her with near unlimited power of Callendor as written instead. The big battle at the end of the season could have been unblocked Nyn blasting Lin killing her or just blasting her unconscious. I hear that characters that don't have much plot left in the books are good to go and can just be covered by somebody else, so Lin should certainly make that list as she is just a shielded loser coming up. That blast of power could attract Mogy. Nyn recognizing and going toe to toe with her and learning to truly believe and trust in her strength. Nope part the waters and get on the boat Nyn. The Nyn very famous for just shrugging, giving up, and just walking away when her friends are in danger. Best of luck to you Rand. Avoid being collared! But Pike must star. And all of these choices left them without an "out" for Mo that was not permanent death or a victory and ultimately resulted in neither obviously dying and further in them needing another flashy death for the season and thus Suian (screaming defiance till her last breath to spit in Sightblinder's eye glorious moment as it was-I still hated it because I love her resilient growth arc with Eg) which has set the WoT people at each others throats all over the internet. Even show only people are raging over her death and the deliberately gory way it was done. One of those butterfly flaps its wings.... and a volcano erupts on the other side of the world moment it seems. The source material for Mo and Lanfear showdown was important for setting up the ToG, getting Lan to Nyn, for Rand's growth, and for the last battle. We did not have the doorframe, so I figured the Mo was not going to die. I did think that Lanfear was actually going to die setting up rebirth for her and Ishy at the beginning of next season. Then a further confrontation of revenge next season with a doorframe somehow. Didn't get that. That's fine I'm not being paid by the show. But the show does set it up as a huge moment. Either Mo wins or the last battle is lost here in season 3. Was it flashy? At times, yes. Did either die? Doesn't appear so. All I saw were easy to heal wounds in this age. Is Lan cool yet? Sure as hell no. Do swords have some extra special ability against the one power? The way the warders be dancing around an hanging in there they must. Does Mo still have to kill Lanfear for Rand to ultimately win? Who knows? If its not convenient to bring it up again then we will be expected to just forget about it and welcome her as Cadsuane. Oh wait her death and eventual return is pivotal to the entire storyline of winning the last battle? I guess we have to find out how many doorframes there are. One for every capital city maybe. If not when will Mo be headed back to her confrontation with Lanfear at Elaida's tower? Or will it be in Seachan controlled Tanchico? Or just a good old nonhealing sword wound and Brigette rebirth because why not. Are the Finn just a fun element to give to book readers to say damn here you go or is there still a future plot of ToG? Is Mo too important to be removed and go through the doorframe? Sure seems like it. Maybe Matt can go to the Finn and rescue Oliver or his sisters. I haven't posted so far this season because I was just letting things play out. And I thought there was some truly great scenes this season and was hoping that things were fully on the upswing. Also in seasons past I ended up typing up a rant like this and didn't really want to be doing that. I truly don't want to bring others down on their good feelings. But these writers just do not seem capable of telling the story of the EF5. Hell they do not seem to even begin to understand them. Except for goofy Mat. The more serious aspect of the rest of them are as lost as Perrin displaying even a hint of having any cool abilities.