GASP! If they really were plant people, it would also explain why Avendesora was trusted to them! Maybe the original Aiel were the fruits of chora trees??? and why they respect and hold Ogier in such high regard! AND WHY THEY ARE SO GOOD AT BLENDING INTO FOLIAGE! Guys, #AielArePlants

The Aiel could not have been genetically modified. Genetic experimentation on humans and animals was forbidden by the Hall of Servants, and it was for this reason that Aginor turned to the shadow. Only plants were allowed to be experimented so, leading to choral trees and the nym. On the other hand, a case could be made that the Aiel are super advanced pod people. It would explain why seem to need little food (they get nourishment from soil), why they thrive in a desert (yummy sunlight) and why they hold water precious. Maybe the Daishan Aiel were grown pod people to act as servant to the AS. 

But, if it comes to understanding the Third Age a using it to great advantage, Demandred takes the cake. His manipulation/fulfilment of Saharan prophecy? Flawless. He beats Graendal in that aspect. His major flaw was his ego. 

I agree that the Forsaken were too sure that they were superior because of their Age they come from and that it led them to underestimate discoveries from the current age. But the only thing that was truly unique in the field of channeling was Warder Bonds ( the viewing gateways were great, but it comes too late to the series). Let's look at it from an AoL perspective. 

Here we have a bunch of channelers who are willingly shortening their lifespan, who do npt credit the existence of  dreamworld, who have to ride horses to get anywhere, and are not even that good in battle (in their opinion, since the War of Power was the greatest war ever fought). Would you really respect them? Particularly if you are as arrogant, as self-centered and vain as the Forsaken?

Also, the Warder bond would require TRUST, something the Forsaken see as a welcome mat to death. Even black sisters chafe under the warder bond when they bonded light aligned warders. Only Verin and one other Black sister had a Dark friend warder, IIRC. No wonder a lot Black Ajah are Red, it removes thatc complication. 

Do you really see the Forsaken bonding anyone as Warders? They will never bond anyone from the Third age, that's just demeaning. Besides, even if that DF warder is too intimidated to backstab a Forsaken, when they die, its a massive blow to the Forsaken. If you Compel the poor fool, who's to say how that will affect you? The sister Semirhage was torturing certainly regretted it. 

Finally, THEY WiLL NEVER BOND ONE ANOTHER. The Forsaken are cagey enough just talking to one another, and get paranoid when FORMING CIRCLES. A warder bond is just too much trust and power to give another person. 

I think that if they had used saidin and saidar without the True Power, both halves could have been tainted. I remember reading in AMoL that the coating of True Power that rand drew from Ishy through callandor was instrumental in preventing the DO from tainting. Sine LTT and co had no inclination or way to draw True Power, it would never have occurred to them to shield the source from the DO with his own essence. The breaking would have been the End as we know it.

Armour made out of the stuff would be light (cuendillar is as light as porcelain IIRC). Problem is you can't make it all in one go, as steel armour made of the stuff would fuse, like the Tar Valon chain. So maybe plate armour? With the links between each piece made of regular steel. The cuendillar pieces of the armour would be nigh invincible from all attacks.

While interesting, we know channeling is tied to the soul, wouldn't your theory mean that all of them should be channelers? Besides, if anyone should end up with Perrin, its Min, since they share a close bond after spending winter together after the events of Falme. But Min was pretty darn sure what she felt for Perrin was more like sibling love. Also, Min does not interact with Mat again after book 6 (coorect me if I'm wrong) until she is appointed Doomseer by Tuon. Besides, Mat and Tuon are the best couple. Why break em up hahaha?

I know! And every time someone sees its profile from a distance they say its a slim spire or a nail or some other adjective of slender. Who do I believe??

Oh my God, thank you. This issue is one of those things that drag me out of enjoying fiction. Like how the on the world are seasons years long in Westeros and whether or not this weird weather affects Essos. 

True, that's why she and Nyneave apologized to him. Under the stern approval of Aviendha, I might add. Which just goes to show you how much more important the bonds between the three women are to their character development than their relationship with rand. Look how the other two women affected Elayne as a character. Min's viewing made her a reckless fool, that much EVERYONE tells her, but Min herself was angry at Elayne treating her life as secured because of it. It shows how much she trusted Min with her life. min, who in most fiction she would have hated as a romantic rival. Aviendha on the other hand grounds her and shows her to value other cultures and humbles her. On a final note, go easy on Elayne. She is reckless, true, and uppity but she grows out of those later on. She even trusts mat with the armies of her nations. After all, Elayne is no Mary Sue. She has flaws too. Like all the other people in the books. That being said, I love how human her thinking processes were when Aviendha confessed she had slept with Rand. She wanted to knife Aviendha, hahahaha. But in the end, her love for her future sister won out petty jealousy.

I think the point of the three women was not for Rand to choose one of them, but for the the three women to choose each other over a man. In most fiction, if this happened, the would sabotage one another and squabble but I think it was very progressive of RJ to have the three sit down and agree that their sisterhood was just as important to them as their love for Rand. Its just icing on the cake that Rand loved all three of them as well. 

  On 3/5/2018 at 8:02 PM, Sabio said:

 

 

Well first the 200 feet per Aes Sedai is an assumption.  Also how do you know each Aes Sedai had space for three rooms?  The novices and accepted are in a palace out back and the most the staff probably lived in the city.  No mention of where the warders or trainees stayed. The picture in the BWB shows the WT with at least 18 floors (possibly 26).   

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IIRC, the three rooms thing was from New Spring, when Moiraine first saw her new rooms. And yeah, maybe two hundred feet is a bit big, but I would assume that AS rooms are like pricey hotel rooms, at least a hundred feet of floor space. Bathrooms would not be needed, since either they have tubs brought up and chamber pots would do for waste. 

As for the ten thousand number, yeah that's an exaggeration, sorry. I would assume tho a permanent staff of at least a thousand. So maybe three thousand permanent residents, staff AS and novices and accepted included. 

I think the room sharing thing might be the best answer. Assuming the pricey hotel room space and the fact that your. AS roommate would prefer to be outside and adventuring, this would work out. I have no trouble believing the Tower can hold 1500 rooms for AS.

This has been bugging me for a while now and since I am neither an architect nor an engineer, I can't answer it by myself. Hopefully, either someone has already posited this question or a suitable answer can be given to me. My question involves this: how the heck can the White Tower, a six hundred foot building, fit in close to ten thousands people? 

Let me begin by saying that I imagined the WT roughly as a Pringles can on a shoebox. The rectangular bottom part would be about 100 feet tall, but, since these were the function rooms, meeting halls, and other public spaces, no one lives there. The bottom half may have also housed the staff, at least those that need to live in the tower and not go home to their Tar valon residences. The novices and accepted also populate this area sine this area is big, there is enough room for the one thousand novices and accepted that the place was built for, since novices sleep two to a room that I imagine was only about 20 to 25 feet square. 

I have no problems with the bottom part of the tower. it is the Aes Sedai quarters that tick me off.

Now, Versailles at the height of if use housed up to ten thousand people, but note that these numbers were fluctuating and perhaps only 3000 stayed there full time. So far so good, because the WT was built to house just that many AS. But the three thousand of Versailles were mainly staff that were packed even more tightly than the novices. 

EACH AES SEDAI HAS ENOUGH SPACE FOR AT LEAST THREE ROOMS. A sitting room, a dressing room and a bedroom. And that is being stingy with space, cause I assume AS have at least 200 feet of floor space. Even assuming that these are built like modern apartments for single people, there is, at least to me, no way that three thousand such apartments could be fitted into a 500 foot tube and still have room for hallways and ramps. Some may point out that there are only ever one thousand AS in residence at the WT, but it still has apartments for three thousand.

Can someone please theorise a way that this is possible with the White Tower?