I've recently been thinking about this. In the Legends version of New Spring, it says that Kari al'Thor from Andor, married to Tamlin al'Thor, was on Moiraine's list. And RJ said that Moiraine lost her list sometime between New Spring and Eye of the World. But she would still recognize the name.

And it doesn't explain why she gave the Tracking/Compulsion Coins to Mat and Perrin. She didn't know the Dark One was hunting them until after Winternight, when only their houses were burned. She would have known that anyone born in the Two Rivers could not be the Dragon Reborn, and Mat and Perrin, with the look of the Two Rivers, and plenty of siblings, clearly were not born on the slopes of Dragonmount. Even if she didn't know what an Aiel looked like (which is unlikely, as we see Gawyn comment on Rand's Aiel-like appearance), RJ makes a point of emphasizing that he doesn't look like the rest of them. At the VERY least, that would give Moiraine reason to keep an eye on him, even if there were other reasons why he might have looked different. And being an only child to a man who had left the Two Rivers as a youth and come back with an Outlander Wife makes it much more likely that he could have been born Outside, even if people lied to her. Which, btw, seems odd, because if they were willing to tell her their birthdates, why would they hide other information? Birthdates seem like a pretty personal information, moreso than whether or not someone has travelled outside the Two Rivers.

My only real thought is that she she that Rand was the Dragon Reborn, and the Pattern made her take the other two.

On 1/31/2018 at 3:10 PM, Maedelin said:

Rand trusted Alivia, who was basically ignored in the entire last book except at the end where she "helps Rand die".  The whole thing didn't make sense.  Alivia's great job was to...acquire some clothes, money, and a horse.  If she had gone in with Rand, would that greater power have helped?  Wouldn't that make more sense?

 

I love Moirraine.  I just don't understand the thought process behind who went in with Rand.  Hell, even Aviendha could have.

Moiraine was the logical choice.

Alivia's "job" was to "help Rand die", not to help him fight the DO. By fighting the DO, she wouldn't have been helping him die. By getting him provisions to escape during the funeral, she was helping him "die" (everyone thought that the funeral was for him, and if he had been around and awake when people came back, it would have gotten out pretty quickly that he was Rand and not dead; with him disappeared, all it left was a mystery about who it was).

Aviendha had to lead the Aiel channelers.

Elayne couldn't do it, she was in charge of the armies.

Egwene couldn't do it, she lead the Aes Sedai. Plus, Rand didn't trust her implicitly; he felt she was more Aes Sedai than childhood friend, and would put Aes Sedai interests above his.

Wielding callandor put him in a position of vulnerability that allowed the two female channelers to take control of him. That's why he needed the only two people who he trusted implicitly, Moiraine and Nynaeve. (Just hazarding a guess here, but that's probably the reason he wrote in Moiraine receiving Lanfear's angreal - so she'd have enough power to make it worthwhile).

I don't know how this plays into it, but remember that the pattern used Rand to counterbalance the DO. As the seals on the DO's prison weakened and it was able to touch the world more directly, causing drought, famine, food spoilage, etc, the stronger its influence, the stronger Rand's positive influence was, as well. Food became unspoiled and sweet in his presence. Grass grew. A whole grove of apples grew and ripened. A grove of great trees grew. To me, that indicates that Rand is still within the Pattern, being used BY the Pattern. The DO is outside the Pattern, but can influence it itself.

Thank you so much! I can't believe I forgot about that! I was so focused on trying to remember if anything like that happened when Rand was shielded at Dumail's Wells.

I apologize in advance if this is the wrong place to ask this question or if it's already been asked. I searched the forums for it, but found nothing.

I'm writing a piece of fanfic that I plan to adapt to a short film, and I'd like to remain true to the WoT laws of physics.

If an AS ties off a weave and then dies (while the weave is tied off), does the tied off weave dissipate? Or does it stay around until another AS comes and unties it?