As Sharaman said in the post you quoted, that Fade was a trial version for SH.

Ah yes, i should have read that a bit more carefully! Apologies

Shaidar Haran first appears in LoC. Demandred meets him at SG and then the two Gars have a pleasant chat with him.

An earlier beta version has a conversation with Carridin in TGH.

Lots of discussion of him, and his strange powers, and his rather unusual sense of humour.

Hey all i am new to these forums so please be gentle

I thought that Shaidar Haran was first introduced in TGH somewhere near the begining of the book. Although he was not mentioned by name there was an odd fade that was all smiley and all with a kind of messed up sense of humour.

Am i wrong or am i feeling the effects or saidin pre cleansing in that i am making things up?