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  1. I think that they can have glimpses of their past lives--everyone one, not just Heroes of the Horn.  Everyone has been reborn over and over and over.  So, it's possible that sometimes they can remember fragments or memories from their previous lives.


    Mat remembers a big chunk of one of his previous lives (being Aemon, we assume) in The Dragon Reborn, Chapter 19, "Awakening."  This is before he's gone to Finnland, so those memories are all his own.

  2. Steve, the only argument I have against that is that being Ta'veren is extremely rare. So, to me it would seem unlikely for Tam to be one just 20 years before three others would be made. People have also argued that Janduin--Rand's biological father--was also Ta'veren, but I still think it unlikely.


    However, Siuan does know she has the Talent to see Ta'veren, so there must have been one in her lifetime.

  3. Knife of Dreams, Chapter 18, "News for the Dragon" says:


    Ta’veren could be found by their effect on the Pattern, though only the Forsaken knew how. Lews Therin certainly had never mentioned knowing—their “conversations” were always brief, and the man seldom gave information willingly—and nothing had drifted across from him on the subject. At least, Lanfear and Ishamael had known how, but no one had found him that way since they had died.

  4. There are crazier theories than that, jsimpkins.  I've even heard that Nakomi was Egwene who traveled back in time.  I agree with you about time travel, though, and I don't think Robert Jordan would have used those dues ex machina tactics. 


    Also, if it was Aviendha from the future, how was she able to get inside of the Bore when it was being sealed?  Rand and Moridin barely made it out in time.  Any other person would have been killed.

  5. You make an interesting point, Laica!  Sensing Shadowspawn is something the Wondergirls didn't pick up right away.  Rand is able to sense them early on--he mentions it in the beginning of The Dragon Reborn.  Moiraine obviously can sense the Trollocs, so I wonder why Egwene and Nynaeve didn't pick up on it just as quickly.


    Wotfan, I don't think we know for sure all the details about the sensitivity to Shadowspawn.  Perhaps it's a Talent?  Maybe that's why Egwene and Nynaeve--or any other Aes Sedai that I can remember--doesn't talk about being able to "sense" the Trollocs.  I'm trying to remember it being mentioned any other time--Moiraine in The Eye of the World and Rand in The Dragon Reborn.


    Anyone else remember a time sensing Shadowspawn was talked about?

  6. I'm not sure if maybe I missed it or not, but has anyone considered that maybe Tam was ta'veren for a time?  The wheel may have needed him to find Rand and so guided him to where he needed to be?


    That's interesting to think about, however, the point of ta'veren is that they are super rare.  I've also heard theories that say Rand's real father, Janduin, was also ta'veren.  I just find that too hard to believe.


    On the other hand, Suian knows that she has the talent for seeing ta'veren.  So that would imply she at least has seen one before.

  7. Yes, Laica, I think that it's possible that Myrddraal can channel--or at least manipulate--the True Power. (Look here for a blog I wrote on it last October.) 


    I've also touched on the Nym and the One Power several times, but the book does say Someshta "took those threads and wove them into his dance" (The Shadow Rising, Chapter 26, "The Dedicated").  We know that Seed Singing used the Power, and in this section we know the Aiel can't channel, and we know the Ogier can't channel.  Which leaves only the Nym able to control the flows (or the weaves) that are being used.


    Therefore, I think it likely that the Myrddraal could so something similar with the True Power, if they can't actually channel (like Suttree suggested).

  8. As for myrddraal and chaneling, one must have an active connection to the OP in order to access th TP. The DO can not grant it to someone who can not already channel.


    That's a good point, Suttree.  But what about the Nym?  They don't channel, yet they control the weaves when Seed Singing.  Perhaps Myrddraal are the same?  They don't actually reach for and embrace the True Power, but they can use existing weaves to manipulate themselves and the area around them.

  9. Actually, that's a common misconception.  Balefire erases that person's thread, but it doesn't erase it completely.  RJ said:


    If someone is balefired, the Dark One can't reincarnate them. But they CAN be spun back out into the Wheel as normal. Balefire is NOT the eternal death of the soul.


    Which is exactly my point: dying in T'A'R shouldn't kill anyone entirely--like the wolves.  They should still be able to be reborn.  It doesn't make sense for their threads to be erased completely when even balefire doesn't do that.

  10. Do you have any of your own thoughts to add Suttree? Cause I think those statements leave a lot if wiggle room.


    I think it's still likely that Rand was ta'veren very early on. Even if not "from birth," he could be ta'veren an hour after birth--when Tam found him on the slopes of Dragonmount. There were way too many coincidents in his life--a lot if it might be the Pattern (like Laman's Pride)--but some had to be from Rand.


    Also, the True Power is not the same as the One Power. And there are some definite similarities between what Myrddraal do and how the True Power is used. We did a whole blog on it last year; I'll post a link in a bit.

  11. Yes, Naggash, I see what you are saying.  I think we talked about this previously as well.  But when Nynaeve does Heal the insanity in Naeff, she thinks how she didn't use Healing weaves.  So perhaps it is not Healing in the same sense of the word. 


    In "Dragonmount," though, Elan Morin doesn't capitalize the H in heal when he says, "Be healed, Lews Therin."  That also makes me wonder about the healing... Healing is with the Power, healing is not with the Power.

  12. Yes, you are right, Naggash, on the healing part.  I had gotten those mixed up.  I remembered an inteview that mentioned not being able to Heal insanity with the True Power, but the quote says:



    Access to the True Power is a matter of wanting it and the Dark One letting you. NOT black cords. In the Prologue to The Eye of the World we saw True Power used to heal insanity. The One Power cannot be used to heal insanity. True Power used at Shayol Ghul will fry you instantly.


    Of course, this quote makes me wonder how Nynaeve Healed insanity in Towers of Midnight, then.

  13. Laica, I edited your post because The Wheel of Time is copyrighted material and should not be reproduced online.  It is against Dragonmount's Code of Conduct to link to sites that infringe on copyrighted materials.



    Also, the Dark One was most likely sending out ravens to the far corners of the world.  Remember, in New Spring, the Dark One knew the Dragon had been reborn, but didn't know when.  That's why so many "lucky" people were killed off by Darkfriends in that book.  So, the Dark One was probably narrowing his sights, trying to figure out more clues about who the Dragon Reborn could be.


    We'll talk about it later, but it was Padan Fain's information that finally led the Dark One to Rand, Mat, and Perrin.  I doubt the ravens contributed much from this one visit we see.

  14. I don't think you can find "Ravens" online.  But I would suggest trying your local library.  They'd probably have it there.


    Thanks for you input as to where to start the series!  I first read New Spring in the Legends Anthology.  It was a condensed versions--it begins when Moiraine is already out of the Tower on her way to look for the Dragon Reborn.  It left off the opening parts of her in the White Tower, her testing for Aes Sedai, etc.  I was very happy to read the extended version when it came out.


    However, I can't imagine starting the series there.  It doesn't feel like the beginning.  Perhaps it is a beginning, but I felt it would work best this way.

  15. I'm not too sure about that, Mardragon.  The scene you are thinking of is "A Village in Shiota" (Knife of Dreams, Chapter 10).  It's hard to say if they are the normal ghosts or if they are a bubble of evil.  I don't think the peddler--who gets sucked into the ground with the village--we in pain; I think he was screaming out of fear. 


    It might be similar to how the rooms and walls move inside the palace in Caemlyn or the Stone of Tear.  It's a piece of the Pattern that got moved.  The peddler just got stuck in it; the same way Nynaeve said she had to Travel out of a room at the Stone when the door disappeared.


    If the Dark One doesn't have access to souls, as I argue, then I don't think the bubble of evil would bring up dead souls.  It's most likely the Pattern fraying and transplanting another Age into the current one.

  16. Daedelus, you're completely right.  Naturally, I don't want to think of anyone from the Two Rivers as being a Darkfriend, but it is a possibility.  That would be a good reason for the Dark One to have her soul.  However, I still don't think Ishy would have been able to have access to it at that time.

  17. I'm not sure if Amazon will ever get the hard copy, Graendals.  But, they currently have the Kindle version; and you can get it from the DM eBook store as well.


    If you're really anxious to read it, I would suggest getting the digital copy.  And you don't even need a Kindle device--you can read it on your computer or download the Kindle or eBook reader app on your phone.

  18. Interesting idea, Shift.  I never thought of a link between the chora tress and the standing flows.  And as Laica points out, the glass-column ter'angreal in Rhuidean is accessible by those who cannot channel. 


    However, we know there are other ter'angreal that don't require channeling to work.  The twisted doorframe ter'angreal that leads to the Finns, for instance.  Mat's--and Elayne's copies of the--foxhead medallion don't require channeling to make it work, either.  Mat and Birgitte can use them without any problem.


    Naggash, I did speak on that a little.  I stated that they would use the standing flows to "better the lives of the common citizens."  Also, just by contrasting the current Aes Sedai's lack of desire to help shows how different it was in the Age of Legends. 

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