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  1. Welcome back to this special edition of "WoT If?". Why is it special? Because we're allowed to include A Memory of Light spoilers! So, I'd like to take a look at all my past theories and cry over how far off they were from what actually happened. SPOILER WARNING. THIS WILL INCLUDE CONTENT FROM A MEMORY OF LIGHT. PLEASE DON'T READ THIS POST IF YOU HAVEN'T COMPLETED THE BOOK. Let's start backwards and work our way to the beginning. I'll try to organize my thoughts as best I can. 1. The Aiel The Aiel didn't submit to the Seanchan; I was totally wrong on that one. They did give up their hatred, though. They did agree that they would have to let the collared Wise Ones go. In that, I was semi-right. Of course, with the deal Egwene made with Tuon, all the Wise Ones will be released, so the Aiel won't have to suffer the a'dam for much longer. 2. Moridin Moridin didn't turn out to be a double agent. None of the Forsaken returned to the Light. I thought for a moment it would be Lanfear, since Rand opened himself up to her, showing her his true feelings and intentions (A Memory of Light, Chapter 12, "A Shard of a Moment"). Instead, that made her even more bitter. Perhaps it could be argued that Moghedien or Graendal could come back to the Light. The a'dam might reform Moghedien, and Graendal's Compulsion could lead her back if Aviendha wishes it of her. 3. Gawyn and Egwene A few of the deaths I predicted were right: Gawyn, Birgitte, Rhuarc, Tenobia, and Bashere. In all honesty, I never, ever expected Egwene to die. It was the most shocking part of the book for me, possibly even in the whole series. But, looking back, there are some hints that this will come to pass. There are dreams she has where she sees the possibility of her own death: The first might be her trying to get to Gawyn. She ran to him and he ran to her, but neither made it in time. Because of that, the "axe" descends on her. With the loss of Gawyn, Egwene fought harder than she should have, bringing her own downfall. The same could be said about the second dream. With Gawyn closing the door (dying), Egwene also dies. 4. Fain I was wrong about Rand killing Fain. I think every theory I've seen on Fain has been wrong. I made five different predictions that were likely to happen. None of them were fulfilled in A Memory of Light. There was such a build-up for Fain, but he turned out to be a red herring of sorts. His presence—and his death—at the Last Battle were completely pointless. They added nothing, one way or the other, that I saw. I'm on my second read-through of the book, and it's a bit more obvious to pick out the literary logic of Fain. Rand is occupied at Shayol Ghul, and there are two entities trying to kill him: Slayer and Fain. Naturally, Slayer is dealt with by Perrin, so logically Mat should handle the other. Makes sense. I'll admit, my heart lurched when Mashadar touched Mat. I had a moment of panic before I remembered Mat couldn't possibly die (because of the possibility of the outrigger novel). Though this scene felt a bit rushed and anti-climactic, I really enjoyed the irony of it. 5. Cadsuane I was wrong about Cadsuane dying as well. I guess I overanalyzed the foreshadowing on that one. I also enjoyed the irony of that scene. Cadsuane left the White Tower to avoid being raised Amyrlin (according to Robert Jordan's notes), so it's funny that they catch her off guard right after the Last Battle is finished. I believe since the words were spoken, she has no choice but to answer the summons of the Hall. 6. Alivia Alivia: not evil. Wow. This was a complete shock to me. I really thought all the signs were there for her to turn out to be a Darkfriend, at the very least, or some high-up Shadow Official. Not so. She turned out to be what she said she was—as far as we know. And she did "help" Rand die. Of course, there are still some ways we can speculate about Alivia. Someone did theorize that she could be part of the royal family of Seanchan. I'm sure we can continue the discussion of her as the theory blog continues in March. 7. Galad What of Elaida's "The Royal line of Andor would be the key to defeating the Dark One in the Last Battle" (The Shadow Rising, Chapter 1, "Seeds of Shadow")? You could say it was Rand all along, but what about the efforts of Galad? He was given the copied foxhead medallion and went to fight Demandred. He didn't win, but he was responsible for the ter'angreal finding its way into the hands of Lan, who did defeat Demandred, causing the battle at Merrilor to be won. It's arguable. 8. Mat Mat's role in the Last Battle was probably expected of most people, but not me. I really expected him to do no more than sound the Horn. That whole plotline smacked me right in the face! Mat almost single-handedly won the battle at Merrilor. And it was an incredible battle! It was right for Mat to be in charge. Having the Great Captains lead, like I assumed they would, lead to near defeat. I guess the Shadow thinks like I do. Also in regards to Mat, I never expected that he wasn't still bound to the Horn (and I gave some proof as to why). Still, I loved the way it played out, especially Olver's sweetly sad reunion with Jain: This scene is what The Wheel of Time is all about. Touching and emotional and just perfect. One of my favorites in the whole book. 9. Rand So, what did we learn about the voice at the end of The Eye of the World? I guess the answer was it belonged to the Creator. Looking at the return of that voice, Rand seems to think that's who it was. Rand, because of his thanks and his hope, assumes it is the Creator, that the Creator is giving him permission to continue. It makes sense. I don't know if the Dark One would really welcome the Dragon Reborn into his lair. He knows Rand must come, but he probably wouldn't give consent to the timing. However, here, the capital voice isn't italicized too, like it is in The Eye of the World. That's a bit curious. Besides that answer about Rand's encounters at the Eye, no more is revealed. We are still left wondering about the true power of the Eye and what effect it did have on Rand. For the blog I wrote about Nicola's "The Dragon Reborn will do nine impossible things" (Crossroads of Twilight, Chapter 17, "Secrets"), only one prediction was correct! He survived the Last Battle, which most of us knew he would do anyway. I wonder if there are other impossible things he did that would count, rather than the ones I came up with. 10. Logain I will admit to total failure in my prediction about everything related to Logain and the Black Tower. The Asha'man never came to Caemlyn's aid, nor did Logain go off on a secret recruiting mission. I'm so glad that the resolution in the Black Tower was able to be squeezed into this book, and I love Logian's character development and flaws, despite that nothing happened the way I thought it would. 11. Nynaeve And one of my biggest predictions, the one I thought had to be right, Nynaeve Healing death: WRONG. While I really liked the idea of Nynaeve accomplishing this feat, I understand it wouldn't work in the context of this world. If she did it once, she could do it again, and would do it again. A world full of immortals isn't a good thing. Am I embarrassed that I got so much wrong? A bit. But at the same time, I'm glad I tried to think outside the box (and outside of theories that had already been circulating). I think this just shows that Robert Jordan was a genius. Look how much he kept us guessing. Look how much we still got wrong! There's no denying he was a master storyteller and a very skilled writer. A Memory of Light is a fitting end to his legacy. That's all for this special edition. Join us in March for new theories. I kept a notebook beside me and jotted down tons of notes. There are still many topics we can discuss as the Wheel keeps turning. Thanks for reading!
  2. Gawyn stalked around the room, his fury growing with every accusation and excuse. The clues were there... his mind was filled with too much pain and anger... he had to focus, to figure it out. "Elaida, what do you have to say to these accusations? Moiraine Sedai, surely you want to answer my sister's questions. And Cadsuane Sedai, you've been quite for awhile now, don't you have anything to add?" We'll extend this Round because it's important to ask as many questions as possible. Plus, Leala is having internet trouble. We are nearly at the finish line! Keep up the good work!
  3. Not on purpose; it was an accident. Sorry! I added her in there! :P
  4. Gawyn returned to the room, Egwene's dagger clutched in his hands. He walked to Sarene Sedai and handed her the blade. "Where did you find it?" she asked. "The Amyrlin's dagger was on the ground outside, amid the shattered ruins of the decorative window. She must have tried to fight her attacker, but the blade was flung from her hand, striking the window." "And what of the footprints?" "There were two sets of footprints leading away from the gardens. One was small, belonging to a woman. That set headed towards the Tower and the wet prints led to the Hall. The second set was larger, a man's. They headed out into the Tower Grounds towards the city." "I see. Let's count those as evidence. So, we've got a woman coming into the Hall and the Amyrlin's dagger thrown out the window." Sarene rubbed at her chin in thought. Peering at all the suspects, she said, "What do any of you have to say about these new pieces of evidence? "Elaida, you need to confess to what was in your vial. Moiraine, we are all still curious about your knowledge received from the Aelfinn—since you claim you received no boon from the Eelfinn. Laras, you willing admitted to having a hand in two Aes Sedai deaths, and since you took up the tea, you are the last one to see the Amyrlin alive. "Nynaeve, your temper is well known, and you admit to assaulting the Amyrlin; you're deeds must be examined more closely. Siuan, as well as others, have had access to the Amyrlin's food. Egeanin, you claimed to have come for the Bloodknife ter'angreal; can we assume you have it in your possession and could have used it to stealthily enter the Hall? "Matrim and Cadsuane Sedai are immune to flows of saidar, but if the Amyrlin had forkroot in her, that wouldn't have mattered a hair. Logain's plans for a new window are curious, but would he have broken the window with the Amyrlin's dagger instead of the One Power? Galad's been seen twice with the Amyrlin, and both times left angrily; there may be more to your story, Lord Captain Commander. "Elayne, since you were raised on intrigue, working out the details of a murder would be easy. And you've taken the throne of Cairhien as well, showing how skilled you are in the Game of Houses. And the Lord Dragon… how many of the world's problems lay at your feet, just because of who you are?" "We are getting close to our prey," Gawyn said, knowing that soon the killer would be caught in their snare. They had all the necessary clues. All they had to do was piece them together. "And when the killer is revealed, I shall have my revenge." This is the start of Round 4, the final Round. Instructions will be sent to you shortly. This Round will last for 48 hours. After the conclusion, each player will get to say who they think is guilty and why. You'll get more information on that after this Round has ended.
  5. I can't wait for more Mistborn books! I think that magic system is one of the most fascinating I've ever read! Seeing the metals used for FLT would be awesome. With so much to work on, I hope he's able to get them done quickly. It's a bit sad to know that there are plans for these books, but we'll have to wait so long before we get them.
  6. Wow, Aiel Heart! That was very emotionally stirring.
  7. I think New Spring is still worthwhile. It doesn't give you any new info plot-wise, since you've already finished A Memory of Light, but it shows a lot about Moiraine and Lan and their relationship. I enjoyed it, just for that reason. It's still a lot of fun even if you're only listening to it for the character development.
  8. Gawyn glared at Mat as he stepped back into the crowd. Quiet mutters met Mat's words, though he noticed a few kept silent, not joining in the discussion. What did that mean? That they were guilty and didn't need to speculate further? Most likely, it was because they were outsiders from the major groups assembled. "We've heard from everyone again," Sarene said. "Each person gave further evidence to their innocence. However, it appears that Laras, Siuan, and Nynaeve all had access to the Amyrlin's food. On top of that, Nynaeve admitted to using physical force against the Amyrlin. Elayne claims to have come right after the Amyrlin was murdered, but can't seem to offer any more knowledge as to who the killer might have been. Wouldn't she have seen someone if she arrived so quickly? And Rand, he thinks his ta'veren nature is waning, so he would logically need to take matters into his own hands, if he wished the Amyrlin dead. And Elaida's vial seems quite suspicious. Even more suspicious, though I'm not sure who it reflects on, is the appearance of Moiraine's jewel in the room." Sarene cast a glance at Gawyn. "Do you have anything to add?" "Yes, Sarene Sedai. Egeanin claims to have come on a peace mission, but no one here can trust her word. Cauthon is just as untrustworthy. I know my brother well, and I know he would not react calmly to a dismissal, even from the Amyrlin Seat. Logain can claim a Sister is Black Ajah quite freely, but does he do so to cover his own tracks? And Cadsuane Sedai was unable to answer the last accusation by Cauthon, about her ter'angreal and its special abilities." He growled through his teeth in frustration. "We still don't have enough to go on. We must continue this investigation." This concludes Round 2. Please wait for your next Round info to be sent to you.
  9. Does that mean the first few rounds, we all post our answers in the game thread? Is it a contest to see who can post the answer the quickest? Or will we each have a chance to answer all 15 questions?
  10. Gawyn glanced at Matrim Cauthon. A hint of embarrassment still tinged Gawyn's feelings when he looked at the other man. It was hard not to remember how the country lad had beaten him so soundly with a quarterstaff. Still, those emotions were distant. All that remained in focus was his emptiness, the loss of Egwene. "Well, Cauthon," Gawyn said, "what do you have to say about these accusations? Your silence only condemns you further." Let's keep this Round going for awhile longer.
  11. Either or works, just let us know so we can keep it straight in the game thread, and so whoever is playing has all the right information.
  12. Gawyn nodded to Sarene Sedai. "There is something I was wondering. So many of our suspects are channelers. Have you tested for residue? If she were killed by the One Power, wouldn't you be able to tell?" "You are right, Gawyn." Sarene walked over and crouched down beside the Amyrlin's body. The Aes Sedai suspects perked up, inspecting her flows. Finally, Sarene returned to Gawyn's side. "There is no residue, and no resistance. She was not harmed by the One Power. She was killed through other methods." The Aes Sedai and Asha'man looked smug, assuming they had been cleared of all charges. "But," Gawyn said, " just because an Aes Sedai swears to not use the Power as a weapon, there's no restrictions on other ways of murder. And Asha'man have no pledges at all." "Very true logic, Gawyn. Let's ask a few more questions to see if we can find out any more secrets that they want to keep hidden." This is the start of Round 2. You're information will be given to you by PM shortly. This Round will last for 48 hour.
  13. We need one more player for this game. We're just finished Round 1, so you won't be very far behind. Anyone interested?
  14. "Enough," Gawyn bellowed. All talking within the room ceased. "Sarene Sedai, I think they've bickered enough for now. Are you any closer to finding out the truth of who did this?" This is the end of Round 1. Wait patiently as we get a summary posted and get Round 2 information sent to you. Any questions not answered in this round can be asked again, if so desired.
  15. Gawyn grasped the handle of his sword, pulling it a few inches from the scabbard, then forcing it back in. The arguments around the room sickened him. This was not getting anything answered; all they did was squabble. If Sarene would only allow him to take each person aside and question them, things would be resolved a lot sooner. He would rather execute 11 innocents to get the one he wanted than let the murderer go free. Sarene cast a cool glance at him--an Aes Sedai trick of pretending to know his thoughts--and he took his hand away from his sword. They'd play by her rules now, but later... Less that 24 hours left to get all your questions in!
  16. As Galad walked back among the others, Gawyn's face twisted in anger. "So, we have heard from everyone," Sarene Sedai said, but Gawyn cut her off by pulling his sword from the scabbard. "Not a single one of you mentioned having lunch with Egwene," he said, holding the sword out to the gathered people. "Obviously, someone is lying." Sarene nodded. "I guess we will have to delve a bit further into everyone's stories. Gawyn, put that sword away. Now is not the time for such methods. Logic and reason will solve this case. Let's put questions to them, not a blade. Promise me you won't turn this into a fight." "As you say, Sarene Sedai." He put the sword back in its sheath, glad he was not bound by the Oaths to speak no lie. This concludes the Introduction Round. Your Round 1 instructions will come along shortly.
  17. They have the card list on their website. http://taverentees.com/PlayingCards/SITE_CardList2.jpg I got mine in the mail yesterday. They look so cool!
  18. You're in, blank! I'll get the info to you right away so you can join in! THANKS!
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