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  1. On 6/27/2022 at 4:01 PM, Andra said:

    Aside from the questions of her support of Tar Valon, she also had a history of taking very public, very foolish actions involving romantic relationships.

    As no one would have had any idea that Compulsion was even a possibility - much less that her newest lover was actually one of the Forsaken - it would have been seen at first as simply being more of her letting her emotions make her crazy.

     

    Well of course the commoners were all distraught when she dumped Thom 😁

  2. 1 hour ago, fra85uk said:

    Stepin had to die in the berserk attack vs. Logain in ep4.

    Then of course the actor is very good and he delivered well in ep5 and all the arc was done properly...but still filler episode.

     

    I find myself thinking if there were a lot more episodes I would love these extras that weren't in the book but since time is short I agree with most here that I'd rather that more time was spent elsewhere. I will hold off final judgement on this season until all the episodes are shown as some choices could make more sense later. One thought is Amazon / Bezos is ultimately responsible for only allowing eight episodes of an hour apiece. Even allowing more than an hour on a few would have made a huge difference.

  3. 12 hours ago, Sabio said:

    This issue is they spent alot of time drawing you into Steph's arc, Logains etc.. just to kill them or have them vanish for a long time.  It feels wasteful considering the limted time they have for the series.  Ok Steph is this interesting guy, going through emotional trauma, ok now he's dead.  They just wasted your time in an episode killing someone they spent alot of the episode building up.

     

    It worked for GOT. Of course the book readers know they aren't big characters (Logain is later) but it does add some of that GOT/SoF&I dread that one of your favorite characters may die at any moment. I almost stopped reading GOT because of that but it slowed way down after the first book. WOT is almost the opposite where all of the favorites live so adding some that may seem favorites that die or are tossed aside makes the others vulnerable (to the non book readers).

  4. I didn't take Nynaeve to be a warrior. They changed when she met up with Moiraine and Lan but other than threatening him which I took to be because she's protective I don't see that much difference. Now if they keep showing her fight with weapons I will change my mind. So far overall I'm mixed. I know Rafe said to think of this as another telling of the wheel, that some characters need to be moved around to attract better actors, and because of time restraints many things will have to be changed and rushed. So right now I'm feeling the rushed part and not understanding the reasoning for some of the changes. However I'm hoping a lot of them will make more sense as this goes along. My main gripe is just how sullen the two rivers kids are but I think that's mostly because we didn't get to see them for any length of time pre-invasion and post invasion in the books they weren't that cheerful either at first. Sure hoping some of their general humor and playfulness together shows top as they learn and accept their new reality - actually Thom was the only one showing that. 

  5. Wasn't there supposedly some sections of the books Sanderson did that Jordan had already finished including a lot of the ending? Did we ever find out explicititly which those were and did that change anyone's mind who thought Sanderson did a poor job only to find out whoops Jordan did that chapter? 

  6. On 12/7/2020 at 12:30 PM, Thrasymachus said:
    On 12/7/2020 at 12:30 PM, Thrasymachus said:

    One of the things that Rafe seems to be changing is leaning much more heavily into Aes Sedai politics much earlier than Jordan did.  And the Aes Sedai politics-heavy arcs have been among the most negatively received parts of the book series.  This could end up being a positive change for the tv show, where it may be easier to play up the mystery and intrigue of that kind of political wrangling.  Or it may drive off those book fans who are already frustrated and bored with those arcs.

     

     

     

    I would dislike any major changes to plots or characters from the books but I'm not at all against adding things that logically might have occurred behind the scenes if it helps the video version move along. These things happened and as long as the fit what we know it actually gives us more. It's sort of like I wish we could get a Mat and Tuon after series but know we never will.

     

     

  7. On 12/27/2020 at 9:28 PM, johnnysd said:

     

    I agree somewhat but it won't last the entire season in my view. Rand will be known to channel by Episode 4 or so (Four Kings) Now I think they will maybe not suggest he is the true dragon until like Episode 9 but really it's not going beyond that without essentially a complete overhaul of the story

    This is why having Thom is so important. His nephew channeling and being brought down by the Red Ajah could be fleshed out more and if Rand is Dragon is delayed showing concern that he might be hunted by the Reds can be a real diversion tactic. BTW, if they do show Logain being hunted do they need to introduce Cadsuane much earlier than the books? Also in reference to characters not being used early for a short snippet and then disappear for a few years I wonder if there will be flashbacks to the prequel to reveal more about Moriane, Lan, Siuan and Elaida. 

  8. I see a lot of discussion about getting rid of Caemlyn altogether and having Elayne, Galad and Gawyn show up at Tar Valon. Rand never goes to Tar Valon so does this change also intend to totally remake the plot with either Rand going there or removing Elayne as a romantic interest? If she is removed as his romantic interest is there a reason to have her at all?

  9. I agree with WB that a bunch of secondary and tertiary characters will be merged. No need to have 200 different Aes Sedai showing up for a few seconds or at most minutes at a time. Unsure about The Forsaken. They are the biggest baddies and Raef said it was hard for hire really good actors to play characters who disappear for several seasons. If they can show up for one or two consecutive seasons before being destroyed then maybe they all get their airtime. BTW, in LOTR they got a few really good actors because they loved the books. Is their any word of any major actors who are angling to get some small parts because they love WOT?

  10. I don't understand why so many want major plot revisions. Sure they can't afford all of the locations but cutting Caemlyn where so much happens? If they do a lot of that it will be so far from the books that I'm not sure I would watch anymore. I just had a hard time watch part of the theatrical version (in error) of LOTR and had to turn it off after they cut so much. But at least they didn't do radical changes all the time. I've never liked when Hollywood buys the rights to any book (say Robin Hood) and changes it so much it's almost unrecognizable. I wonder why they bought it in the first place instead of just coming up with something similar they didn't have to pay a lot of money for only to change.

     

    My suggestions would be to combine a lot of the smaller locations but not actually let us know it's the same location. Change a few things and Baerlon and Whitebridge can double for each other as can several of the even smaller ones. Minor plot lines and characters will have to be trimmed but only so the major plots and characters can stay and certainly not so new major characters or plots are invented.

  11. I'd say in the middle late books like Winter's Heart they could speed up the dreariness of the waiting by just showing montages of the weeks going by and just doing a scene or two from each camp here and there without doing every detail. Visuals can be a big help in moving things along that words struggle with. A lot will depend on ratings. The more popular the more even Amazon will be in no hurry for it to end. If the ratings are middling then a rushed and eventually curtailed product will end with a whimper.

  12. OK, so looking at IMDB at The Wheel of Time I noticed there were some cast members that haven't been mentioned and also some that don't even give the character they are portraying. So let the speculation begin.

     

    Naana Agyei Ampadu - Danya (I can't remember any character with that name in the books)

    Maria Doyle Kennedy - no character given

    Kate Fleetwood - Liandrin (I hadn't heard of this maybe some of you had)

    Priyanka Bose - Alanna Mosvani

    Peter Franzen - no character given

    Stuart Graham - no character given

    Daryl McCormack - no character given

    Taylor Napier - Maksim (I don't remember this character either)

     

  13. Moiraine / Rosamund Pike has the Eddard Stark / Sean Bean role in the first season. She she's a veteran actress who will be the initial center of attraction to get everything started. She doesn't get killed like Stark but the emphasis shifts away. I rememeber the first time I read the book and at first she was the most interesting character through which everything flowed. Lan was next and the kids slowly emerged as it went on.

  14. I agree with Morena Baccarin for Moirraine. She has that ageless look and her former work would be a plus to be added to the new unknowns for the main five (Rand, Nyneave, Perrin, Matt and Egeene). I’m pretty sure casting will get it right though like they did on SOF&I/GOT. 

  15. About Myrelle, she's in the Black Tower with the Rebel embassy that has gone there to bond 47 (?) Ashaman as warders at Rand's invite. Her bond with Lan can't be transferred because she and Nyn have not been in the same place, (apart from any reluctance she may have).

     

    That could lead to Nynaeve being around when the Black Tower is attacked if Myrelle is killed so the bond can be passed.

  16. I believe that Nynaeve had that personality because she needed to be angry to channel and heal people. It just overcame her and she was in a ticked off mood all the time in case she needed to heal someone. Everything could hurt someone and it made her mad especially if they were doing something that she thought might injure them. When she was drowning in Ebou Dar she surrendered for the first time in her life to saidar and gradually that episode and her marriage changed her as she no longer had to be angry to do what needed to be done.

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