This has always seemed odd to me. I wish someone in the production would speak to why this is the case.

I hope they cast Dobraine. He was a favorite minor character for me in the books. His loyalty to Rand was total and Rand needs those types of characters around him. I was disappointed in how his plot sorta died in the books, after he was stabbed. I hope they do him justice in the show. Hopefully better than Ingtar was in the show, who was another favorite minor character of mine in the books.

They had already depowered Rand even before that confrontation with the 3(?) different times he was shielded easily. The "battle" with Ishy at end of season two wasn't really a battle, Ishy LET Rand stab him. Ishy wanted to die once he knew that Rand wouldn't turn to the Dark. Similarly, the "battle" with Ishy in season one was also not really a battle since no matter what Rand did, Ishy would win. Knowing all that, I think the show is going to have a more difficult time powering UP Rand. I am hopeful season 3 does exactly that.

As an aside the Barthanes DF reveal and his plot played flat/boring for me. I suppose there might be additional scenes on the cutting floor, like Ingtar's scenes.

Anyone one else notice changes to season one episodes ? I'm beginning my reWatch tonight and will let everyone know if I see any noticeable changes.

Besides if the show wants to show the Forsaken as more formidable than in the books, having them work together would be a way to do that.

Do we know Nielsen ratings for the season as a whole ? And also, is there a comparable thing to Nielsen in the rest of the world ? Because I remember hearing that ratings were higher outside usa.

Actually your confusing things. The sa'angreal that was shown in season one episode one was in the possession of Moriaine BUT could only be used by a Male channeller. In episode eight of season one, she gives it to Rand, and he uses it in the "battle" with Ishamael. He should still have it so his lack of ability to prevent being shielded is even more odd if he had a sa'angreal that "thousands of male channelers had poured their power in" . However, its never shown or mentioned that she had one for personal use IN THE SHOW, the books yes but NOT the tv show. Hope this helps clarify things.

I too wish they'd made Shohreh in the role of Cadsuane. Hopefully they get another top actress to play Caddy. I hope they make Elaida nasty and slightly deranged, but they do seem to want to avoid having a character being truly evil, even though there are plenty of real people throughout history that you can say were evil. I'm really hoping they do the DO well. I'm eager to see what they come up with.

Having cast such a big actress for Elaida, Shohreh Aghdashloo, i expect that they increase her time on screen much like they've done with Moiraine being Rosamund Pike.

I'm not even sure what the Dark One's role in the show is. They've only mentioned him a couple times and not really in any details described what the attack by LTT was all about..if the DO was locked away, or anything really. The whole way the show is going to end is unknown. Interesting.

We didn't learn who killed that Fade in the village Perrin and company. We didn't learn more about the conversation between Mat and Ishamael. Mat asks, "how" and then nothing. Will we learn the answers to those questions in season three ? and does anyone have thoughts on possible answers to those questions. Thanks.

Any thoughts on who the 2nd Forsaken that Rafe mentioned being in season three ? I know we have Mogi, so is the 2nd one Sammael who was mentioned in ep 8 of season 2 or Asmodean or another Forsaken we've not had confirmed.

RE: Josha's "facial acting" question. Rafe mentions prosthetics, but I don't recall anything in episode eight season two. Could he have meant something in season three ? or did I miss something related to his answer. Thanks

The "magic shield" bit made me raise my eyebrow. I wish it had disappeared once the Heroes of the Horn had returned to dust or returns to the normal shield it was when Uno was alive. Please, Rafe, no magic shield in season three or beyond. 🙏

You are free to ignore. But people are welcome to express their opinions here whether I agree with them or not. It's not meant to be an echo chamber. Those who can't or won't defend their arguments typically leave. I admire you, wise Ogier.

Sympathy isn't warranted to those who insist on coming into this forum only to bash the show and attempt to create false arguments and intentionally trying to bait those who enjoy the show. The show isn't perfect but it's better than not having one at all. By entering into discussion with such people, we only encourage them to continue. Ignoring them is the better option. If I'm wrong to say this, I'm sure the moderators will do their duty but I felt I had to say it.

RE: Rand. Whatever happened to the sa'angreal that Moraine gave him in season one ? Surely he still has it and with it be able to hold off Siuan et al when they are able to shield him. Yeah, that Ashanderai needs to be re-tooled to be inside a spear casing, lol. just tied to a bed post doesn't seem sufficient LOL

I was so hoping the show would have a fuller version of Fain. Perhaps in season 3.

I'm not going to make a judgement on what people are capable of, that's a landmine I ain't stepping on LOL But didn't the show say they'd do more showing than telling ? I think they had two eps of Lan with Alanna et warders & Verin etc and not once did we see any inkling that Lan had a plan beyond perhaps planting the lanfear verse for them to find but no clip of him speaking to Verin about it. They had the time to do it, forgo the Lan peeing scene, and you've got time for a short clip of him and Verin.

I'd be interested in a more world view of the ratings for season two eps 1-3. I know its difficult to think beyond our country but it's my unofficial understanding is that its more popular outside usa.

Did the show have a sceneof Lan talking to Verin about it ?

How does everyone feel about the resolution to the Moiraine/Lan bond, stilled or shielded plot line ? I enjoy how they did it but wish it hadn't lasted so long and they took a bit more time showing Lan had a plan all along to help Moiraine.

This is true. It's always a trip wire until the next season is green lit. I expect season four to be greenlit but i'll be on pins and needles til that happens. Re" 2 year time frame, the extra time they took for season two really paid off and so I expect that trend to continue. I wonder if the amount of money Amazon invests in each season increases which considering the massive expansion of the world in each succeeding book will become increasingly more difficult to adapt. They told us to gird our loins re season two...i expect that to be a theme throughout the rest of the show.

I mean it's logical to have the final episode be longer than the first seven. I'm betting it's 65-70 minutes actual running time, minus recap and short title sequence. Wish it would be 90 minutes but not holding my breath.